Bus driver gets OK to avoid gay-theme...

Bus driver gets OK to avoid gay-themed ads

There are 21 comments on the Star Tribune story from Oct 17, 2006, titled Bus driver gets OK to avoid gay-themed ads. In it, Star Tribune reports that:

A Twin Cities bus driver who complained about a gay-themed ad got official permission not to drive any bus that carries that ad, according to an internal memo confirmed Tuesday by Metro Transit.

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rdg1234

Pottstown, PA

#1 Oct 19, 2006
Right, OK. Have the ad; that is people's right. Post the ad. To say the ad *shouldn't* be posted is an infringement on the rights of others.

But if the *driver* somehow feels he is "compromising his religious beliefs" and wants to *avoid* driving any buses which have the ad, that -- to me -- is perfectly fine. However, it is no one's business to say the ad should be "pulled" or "not shown." That is the same as saying that *he* should never discuss his religious beliefs. These are *beliefs*, and everyone is entitled to them. In this case, the driver is simply doing something for *himself*, based on his *personal belief*, so to me it's fine.
Rob in AZ

Santa Clara, CA

#2 Oct 19, 2006
I don't have a problem with it either. If his employer has the resources and the flexibility to accomodate this bus drivers wish .... then that is all that is to it.

I don't agree with the bus driver's motives, but so be it.
rdg1234

Pottstown, PA

#3 Oct 19, 2006
I, too, found his motive strange, but I really wanted to LOLOLOL I really wanted to AVOID COMMENTING ON THAT.
THEAprof

Plainfield, IL

#4 Oct 19, 2006
Well, this case makes me wonder. Where does this end? Does this driver get to tell GLBT people who attempt to board her bus that they can't ride? What if they are wearing pride t-shirts that "offend" her religious beliefs?

I am morally offended by Republicans and fundamentalist christians. Does that mean I can request that students who belong to one (or both) of those groups be removed from my classes because I don't share their beliefs?

I am SO sick and tired of people using their religious beliefs as a weapon against others. The idea that pharmacists don't have to fill prescriptions if they morally object to that medicine is obscene. Their job as a pharmacist is to provide whatever is prescribed by a physcian; if they are unwilling to do that, then they should look for another line of work.

This nation is headed for a meltdown; we have become a culture of extremists with no consideration for those who think differently.
rdg1234

Pottstown, PA

#5 Oct 19, 2006
Really and truly, to many people in Europe, we look like a nation of absolute idiots. I hear firsthand reports, now and again, from friends in Europe.

Americans are becoming known, or are already known,-- and we've heard hints of this already -- as arrogant, loudmouthed, stubborn asses who are constantly fighting about *NOTHING*. The thing is, the people *I've* talked to don't mean to have a lack of empathy for the fight; they realize it's happening because of these "religious" people who are attempting to *JAM* and *BASH* their opinions down everyone's throat and, when they can't accomplish *THAT*, are just constantly screaming and making a stink and acting, literally, like little puking children. It really is sickening and I do not use that word lightly.
dances with weebles

Santo André, Brazil

#6 Oct 19, 2006
rdg1234 wrote:
Really and truly, to many people in Europe, we look like a nation of absolute idiots. I hear firsthand reports, now and again, from friends in Europe.
Americans are becoming known, or are already known,-- and we've heard hints of this already -- as arrogant, loudmouthed, stubborn asses who are constantly fighting about *NOTHING*. The thing is, the people *I've* talked to don't mean to have a lack of empathy for the fight; they realize it's happening because of these "religious" people who are attempting to *JAM* and *BASH* their opinions down everyone's throat and, when they can't accomplish *THAT*, are just constantly screaming and making a stink and acting, literally, like little puking children. It really is sickening and I do not use that word lightly.
it's not only europe which thinks that about the u.s. it's worldwide.
rdg1234

Pottstown, PA

#7 Oct 19, 2006
dances with weebles wrote:
<quoted text>
it's not only europe which thinks that about the u.s. it's worldwide.
I'm not surprised.

One word I often hear from foreigners who are being *really* honest with me about America is "immature." We strike many people as a very childish country.

WELL WOW, NO WONDER.
stuck in the middle

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Oct 19, 2006
THEAprof wrote:
Well, this case makes me wonder. Where does this end? Does this driver get to tell GLBT people who attempt to board her bus that they can't ride? What if they are wearing pride t-shirts that "offend" her religious beliefs?
I am morally offended by Republicans and fundamentalist christians. Does that mean I can request that students who belong to one (or both) of those groups be removed from my classes because I don't share their beliefs?
I am SO sick and tired of people using their religious beliefs as a weapon against others. The idea that pharmacists don't have to fill prescriptions if they morally object to that medicine is obscene. Their job as a pharmacist is to provide whatever is prescribed by a physcian; if they are unwilling to do that, then they should look for another line of work.
This nation is headed for a meltdown; we have become a culture of extremists with no consideration for those who think differently.
The right feels the same way about the far left and gays, transgenders, etc. who try to force their beliefs on them and their children. Both left and right are intolerent. As far as Urope, they are bending over backwards not to offend Islam, while giving up their own traditions, so, they have little credit in my book.
jessica

Folsom, PA

#10 Oct 20, 2006
When I was visiting southeast asia with my fiance, I had too tell people I was not an american, because we found that, if they knew we were american's their attitudes would drastically change.. I completely agree RDG1234 on how those outside of the united states view americans. The problem is that fundementalists don't care how america is viewed as long as they get what they want right now..Too the person who said both sides are intolerent, maybe your right.. I mean the left doesn't tolerate bigotry, hatred and violence against people who are different and they value diversity.. The right doesn't tolerate anyone who is different from them, and they not all, but on the fringe do condone violence, bigotry and hatred.. Look at Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter for references too that.. I think people in general need too grow up. I think that many too most american adults are childish, immature and spoiled. They want everything they want, right now, the way they want it and they don't care how, what, where or why, as long as they get what they want.. My two year old nephew acts the same way.. Now should this driver get special accomidation for their religious beliefs, I don't know.. But I do know that when you accomodate one persons religious beliefs you open pandora's box for all kinds of other religious accomodation requests.. Read about Robert Eads, or watch the movie Southern Comfort.. Doctors for many reasons refused too treat him for cancer, based on their own prejudice and bigotry,.. What if I ran a hospital and refused too treat conservatives, because their bigotry was against my religious beliefs.. See what I'm saying.. I think you all make valid arguements on different points, but the fact of the matter is, we are dealing with a unique culture of immature, childish adults who want everything the burger king way and they just don't care about anything else.
jessica

Folsom, PA

#11 Oct 20, 2006
another thing too consider, should muslims get special consideration for their religious beliefs, what about mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Athiests, Satanists, Wiccan's.. I mean where does it end.. or are we just talking about Christians and what they want and forget everyone else?
TJefferson

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Oct 20, 2006
The left are bigots also. No one has a market on "right and wrong". No one has clean hands here.
THEAprof

Plainfield, IL

#13 Oct 20, 2006
So the left is trying to force conservatives to be gay or have a sex change operation? Please... There is a HUGE difference between the GLBT community asking others to be tolerant of differences and homophobes trying to pass laws to keep GLBT men and women from having equal rights under the law.

By the way, I give very little credit to the thoughts of anyone who thinks Europe is spelled "Urope."
stuck in the middle wrote:
<quoted text>
The right feels the same way about the far left and gays, transgenders, etc. who try to force their beliefs on them and their children. Both left and right are intolerent. As far as Urope, they are bending over backwards not to offend Islam, while giving up their own traditions, so, they have little credit in my book.
THEAprof

Plainfield, IL

#14 Oct 20, 2006
Hey, that is exactly what I think of this country...and I'm a native-born citizen! Quite frankly, if it were possible for me to move to western Europe or Canada, I would do so in a heartbeat.
rdg1234 wrote:
Really and truly, to many people in Europe, we look like a nation of absolute idiots. I hear firsthand reports, now and again, from friends in Europe.
Americans are becoming known, or are already known,-- and we've heard hints of this already -- as arrogant, loudmouthed, stubborn asses who are constantly fighting about *NOTHING*. The thing is, the people *I've* talked to don't mean to have a lack of empathy for the fight; they realize it's happening because of these "religious" people who are attempting to *JAM* and *BASH* their opinions down everyone's throat and, when they can't accomplish *THAT*, are just constantly screaming and making a stink and acting, literally, like little puking children. It really is sickening and I do not use that word lightly.
rdg1234

Pottstown, PA

#15 Oct 20, 2006
jessica wrote:
When I was visiting southeast asia with my fiance, I had too tell people I was not an american, because we found that, if they knew we were american's their attitudes would drastically change.. I completely agree RDG1234 on how those outside of the united states view americans. The problem is that fundementalists don't care how america is viewed as long as they get what they want right now..Too the person who said both sides are intolerent, maybe your right.. I mean the left doesn't tolerate bigotry, hatred and violence against people who are different and they value diversity.. The right doesn't tolerate anyone who is different from them, and they not all, but on the fringe do condone violence, bigotry and hatred.. Look at Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter for references too that.. I think people in general need too grow up. I think that many too most american adults are childish, immature and spoiled. They want everything they want, right now, the way they want it and they don't care how, what, where or why, as long as they get what they want.. My two year old nephew acts the same way.. Now should this driver get special accomidation for their religious beliefs, I don't know.. But I do know that when you accomodate one persons religious beliefs you open pandora's box for all kinds of other religious accomodation requests.. Read about Robert Eads, or watch the movie Southern Comfort.. Doctors for many reasons refused too treat him for cancer, based on their own prejudice and bigotry,.. What if I ran a hospital and refused too treat conservatives, because their bigotry was against my religious beliefs.. See what I'm saying.. I think you all make valid arguements on different points, but the fact of the matter is, we are dealing with a unique culture of immature, childish adults who want everything the burger king way and they just don't care about anything else.
I agree overwhelmingly with your assessment of Americans. There's a reason the French (or so the stereotype goes) cannot *stand* us; we look loud, boorish, uncultured, pushy and sanctimonious to them, and once you leave this country, you're on somebody else's turf. Yet America has the nerve to make fun of foreigners and treat them badly. I noticed from a young age that European children seem *SO* much more mature, so much earlier, than their American counterparts.
rdg1234

Pottstown, PA

#16 Oct 20, 2006
THEAprof wrote:
Hey, that is exactly what I think of this country...and I'm a native-born citizen! Quite frankly, if it were possible for me to move to western Europe or Canada, I would do so in a heartbeat.
<quoted text>
I am American too and I find quite a number of our actions an absolute "embarrassment" internationally. One good thing about this is that when I come across something that gives me PRIDE in this country, the feeling is sufficiently rare to be overwhelmingly positive.
Yes But

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Oct 23, 2006
THEAprof wrote:
Hey, that is exactly what I think of this country...and I'm a native-born citizen! Quite frankly, if it were possible for me to move to western Europe or Canada, I would do so in a heartbeat.
<quoted text>
Maby if we start a collection we can get this misfit out of the country? Maby into the far north of Canada where he can teach bears to be more open minded.
Bus Driver

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Jul 14, 2010
Read all peoples!
Bus Driver

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Jul 23, 2010
Not ins MY bus! Bad ideas all! Next times I catch you!

Since: Jul 10

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#20 Jul 23, 2010
I just think its pointless. Who gets on a bus and connects the ads from the outside of the bus to the person driving the bus? Who analyzes it so far as to say..."This man must support gays." This man wasted everyones time with all of this. He needs to shut up and just drive the damn bus.
Bus Driver

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Jul 23, 2010
Joben Giraffe wrote:
He needs to shut up and just drive the damn bus.
YOU not nice peoples!

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