Private vs Public School

Private vs Public School

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Curious

Douglas, GA

#1 Apr 28, 2012
Have a serious question. Serious answers only please. I've been doing some research about the schools in Coffee County. CCA and other private schools are not required to disclose their test scores. I would think that they would share their scores and put them up beside other schools, including home school, so people could decide if they wanted to spend the money to go there. And I'm talking about my childen. They the school info, but nothing about the education standards. It's not listed anywhere that I can find. Does anyone have any info on this? I just want the facts please.
really

Moultrie, GA

#2 Apr 28, 2012
Here is another question (since I'm obviously the most uneducated about education these days!): Do they even have to take the same tests? I wonder if they take CRCT and EOCT?
Homey

United States

#3 Apr 28, 2012
Privit skools is fo white peple.
Omg

Douglas, GA

#4 Apr 28, 2012
Nope...
FYI 14

Paynesville, MN

#5 Apr 28, 2012
CCA takes the ITBS test
Hey

Douglas, GA

#6 Apr 28, 2012
FCA, Faith Christian Academy, takes the Stanford 10, or what is known as the SAT 10. This is a nationally normed test that has been around for years. In fact, Coffee School system used to use it for gifted testing in the academic areas.
Hey

Douglas, GA

#7 Apr 28, 2012
I'm sure if you went to the schools and asked, they could show you a school composite of the testing scores. I get a print out each year of my child's scores and can see how she has progressed each year.
KISS

Adel, GA

#8 Apr 28, 2012
Private schools do not have to take state mandated tests. Each of them is different and measures knowledge differently...knowledge versus lack there of sor of thing. ITBS is last given in 7th grade at CMS. Any nationally normed test is fine but you will be comparing different tests as CRCT and EOCT are state specific and normed so they measure the state curriculum, while nationally normed tests are given at random if the system/school is selected. Our state tests have a standard deviation of around +/- 23 or so points, so if 800 is passing you really need to score an 824 to really pass otherwise you could just as easily fail with a score of 777. Our school and state only care if it is 800 or more, which is why kids aren't prepared for 9th grade. They are teaching to pass the test versus prep for the next grade as in old school days...
Tired22

Lakeland, GA

#9 Apr 28, 2012
Private schools are not governed by state or national standards. There are different types of private schools and each has its own goal or driving motivation. The CCA students take the ITBS each year. Their knowledge is not based on a standardized test but rather how they do each year in their academic classes. CCA is a college preparatory school which focuses on getting children ready for college. It is not like the teachers teach there and just teach whatever he/she wants. The elementary teachers are teaching the students the material that helps them succeed in the next grade level as well as in middle school. The middle school teachers focus on getting students for the college prep. courses in high school. The high school teachers converse with 2 year colleges and universities in what students need in order to succeed.

I am by no means putting down the public school in any way nor am I saying that public schools aren't getting the job done, but when it comes to my child's education and environment she is surrounded by, I am going to chose CCA. No, I know it is not perfect and has it's share of students that unmotivated and explore extra-curricular activities that I may not approve of. BUT the environment is better and the teachers are able to give each student more one-on-one attention.

I personally graduated from CCA and did not struggle whatsoever in college. I majored in Chemistry and minored in Biology and maintained a 4.0 through my 6 years of college. I did not even graduate at the top of my class at CCA. In my first year of college, the English professor I had surveyed the class to see how many people graduated from CHS, Atco, and surrounding counties. Then she asked how many students graduated from CCA - I was the only one and the professor stated this out loud - You will be the only one that leaves this class with an A.

No CCA is not perfect by no means, but students are better prepared for college, many have more self-discipline in their study habits and are used to doing homework. Many students transfer in to CCA from CHS, CMS, and even the elementary schools or surrounding counties and are behind academically. These students lack the ability to study nightly, complete homework in more than 2 subjects nightly, and keep up with having quizzes and tests several times a week in 6 different subjects. There are only a handful of students that transfer in and can maintain good grades. Now I know this goes back to how much parents have prepared their children for school and how much effort parents are willing to help their children develop responsability, self-discipline, and good study habits.

My family and I are by no means wealthy or living in some mansion driving expensive cars, but when it comes to my child's education, I will live in a tent if that is what it takes for her to get the best education I feel she can get.

Please do not this post as me "putting down" public schools. My husband graduated from a public school and he is intelligent and successful in life. I'm just stating my opinion.
KISS

Adel, GA

#10 Apr 28, 2012
Private schools do have wonderful boards run by school admin, parents, teachers, and community members. They are a business with a customer service mentality and held responsible by the people paying them, but they can pick and choose their student body. Picking rules out special ed, behavior problems, lower level learners, etc...those are left to public schools. All of this does throw off testing data for comparison, so private and public schools really can not be compared using testing data in the traditional sense. Most private schools are college prep and do a great job at it if you can afford it. This too is a choice in life. CCA also has smaller classes if that helps anyone. FCA does as well but the curriculum is different as is everyone who home schools. Then there is the virtual high school to choose from. Oh the choices in the world.
Me too

Kathleen, GA

#11 Apr 28, 2012
I went to college with CCA grads as well. They struggled in math and science and were really uncomfortable around the "negroes" in our classes.(Their words, not mine)
old doc

Douglas, GA

#12 Apr 28, 2012
I have heard that private schools don't pay their teachers nearly as well as public schools.
Ellie

Douglas, GA

#13 Apr 29, 2012
old doc wrote:
I have heard that private schools don't pay their teachers nearly as well as public schools.
That is true b/c the private school gets no money from the government, only from tuition.

Teachers in private school make fewer $$$$$$ but put up with fewer crap. I know. That's why I left public school. I'm not as stressed anymore.

Since: Aug 10

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#14 Apr 29, 2012
The private schools have their own issues with drugs and other crap just like public scholls have but they just hide it better
George

Grinnell, IA

#15 Apr 29, 2012
There are state mandated tests that have to be taken regardless of whether you are public, private or home schooled during the 3rd grade, 6th grade etc. The biggest difference in the schools is DISIPLINE. That is what is totally missing in the Coffee County schools. Many of the private schools operate strictly on the honor system. Which simply says " I will not lie, cheat or steal". If you are caught doing any of these you will be expelled from school with no refund of tuition money. All other problems have a specific point deduction penalty with the penalties clearly outlined in the code of conduct. Absolutely wonderful for the learning environment! In Coffee County the rules aren't enforced or ignored. If one of our athletes does something that warrants suspension after Tuesday it is put off until the next Monday so they won't have to sit out the game on Friday. If a student curses a teacher or even puts their hands on a teacher and is sent to the office they are back in class before the class is over. Some Counties will take these students, put them in the SRO's car and take them to Mama or Daddy's work and leave them with their parents.
yeah

Lakeland, GA

#16 Apr 29, 2012
You dont have to be a certified teacher to teach at cca. Anybody can teach there. All these people paying all this money and teachers aren't even teachers
George

Grinnell, IA

#17 Apr 29, 2012
I forgot to mention that parents and students must read and sign the statement about the honor system and the penalties. The signed document is then kept on file. Cuts down on the confusion.
Tired22

Lakeland, GA

#18 Apr 29, 2012
"Yeah" you need to check your facts. You do have to be a certified teacher to teach at CCA. Don't state something if you can't back it up with proof. I am a teacher at CCA and I know for a fact the certifications each teacher holds. We are teachers that teach with no benefits, a lower salary, but still care about each child as if he/she was our own. Yes, we have fewer discipline problems because we are stricter with our rules and this does make it more pleasurable to teach at CCA, BUT most teachers teach 5 or 6 different academic classes each day and not just the 1 or 2 most public school teachers teach. We have to plan and prepare for each class as we are not handed down a notebook from adminstration on how to teach the material, when to teach it, and when to test over the material. Like I said before, CCA is not perfect, but get your facts straight!
bender

Adel, GA

#19 Apr 29, 2012
cca tends to be for the upper crust, if by some chance you get to go there and are not in with the uppitty bunch you will never fit in and it then becomes a waste of money. i never tried or got into the some are better than others crap, i went there but it was hell to me.
David P

Kittanning, PA

#20 Apr 29, 2012
bender wrote:
cca tends to be for the upper crust, if by some chance you get to go there and are not in with the uppitty bunch you will never fit in and it then becomes a waste of money. i never tried or got into the some are better than others crap, i went there but it was hell to me.
Negative. CCA is supported by middle class families. Sure, there are wealthy families from all the surrounding Counties that send their kids there, but CCA is not a rich kid prep school. My daughter is there because me and my wife want the best education for her possible.
Because of CCA and what they are going there, she is getting that. They have incredible teachers and because of them, my daughter and several of her class mates are well above the National Average on everything, including Math and Science.

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