Thought Of The Day

Lexington, KY

#25 Sep 14, 2009
This is all really sad. Sounds to me you all you have personal judgement on our sheriff who I think is a very reasonable person. Someone had to do the right thing in what your all talking about. WHAT about the children that had no choices to ride with this crazy woman to start with, that burned to death!!!!!!!!!! Would any of you liked to have taken thier places for the sake of judgement??????? Please forget personal issues and think of our childrren!!!!!!!!!! This really makes me sad!!!!!!!!!! Those poor kids that had no other choice, but to get into that van with an adult that should have protected them.....And no I really don't know any of these people personally, but I really dont think I would need to know any of these children personaly to know she could not deserve anything other than the death penalty. Thier the childrens lives were not worth some jim beam drinks. God bless the Children whos lives were taken away for an adults joy for the day. Think about that. God Bless these poor kids!!!!!!!!
KARMA

Lexington, KY

#26 Sep 14, 2009
MAYBE JUST MAYBE KARMA IS ABOUT TO BITE HER RIGHT IN THE A**:) NOW SHE CAN GET EVEN MORE TIME !
I HOPE THEY CAN GO FOR THE DEATH PENALTY. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ON HER CASE - JUROR ! THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE TO GIVE HER JUST WHAT SHE DESERVES.
YOU KNOW DEATH IS TOO GOOD FOR HER REALLY. SHE NEEDS TO LIVE WITH WHAT SHE DID FOR A LONG TIME. THE ONLY PROBLEM I SEE WITH A LIFE SENTENCE INSTEAD OF DEATH IS THAT MOST OF THE TIME THEY GET OUT AGAIN, MOST OF THEM JUST DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN. IF I WERE ON THE JURY I WOULD PUSH FOR THE MAXIUM SENTENCE, & HOPE IT WAS THE DEATH PENALTY !
THAT BITCH DESERVES HELL !
Thought Of The Day

Lexington, KY

#27 Sep 14, 2009
That is what Im saying. Just don't see any justice for that woman what so ever!!!!!!!!!!
Funny

Lexington, KY

#28 Sep 15, 2009
truth wrote:
we need a new sheriff in 2010 and deputys
Sheriffs wife said the same thing & she left him!
anonymous

Georgetown, KY

#29 Sep 16, 2009
well i think the sherriffs department here sucks hardcore. I went to help my friend that was o.d'd on drugs, i had to do c.p.r on him, and just because i was there when they got there and the ambulance . They treated me like a scum bag criminal, and i was only tryin to help my friend, so in my book there scum, and we need a whole new sheriffs department.
Hold On

Harrodsburg, KY

#33 Oct 25, 2009
Hold on a minute, there are actually some deputies in Jessamine County that are very good at what they do and take thier job seriously.
whoever

United States

#34 Oct 26, 2009
Hold On, I aggree with you. Some of the deputies try thier very best every day. Others just hang around doing nothing, and gathering a paycheck off the back of the taxpayer. Don't condemn the whole bunch just because of the shortcomings of a few. I do agree that it is time for a change in the sheriff's office. But it is also time for a sheriff's merit board to be appointed, staffed by citizens of this county. That way the actual end user of the sheriff's office (the citizens) have some say in the matters that go on within the walls.
LOL

Columbus, OH

#35 Oct 26, 2009
You need to get your stories straight. First it was the Fayette county sheriff office that messed up the Helton case watch the news. As for Kevin Corman he is a good man and Sheriff. You all want someone in there that just looks over everything.
toni

Lexington, KY

#36 Oct 26, 2009
kevin is a fair sheriff!!! and a nice person. i think the only reason you people who are mad at him is he busted you for something!!!
whoever

United States

#37 Oct 26, 2009
Lol...
sounds like the news needs to get thier story straight... Jessamine County Sheriff's handled the case.
common sense

Lexington, KY

#38 Oct 26, 2009
whoever wrote:
Hold On, I aggree with you. Some of the deputies try thier very best every day. Others just hang around doing nothing, and gathering a paycheck off the back of the taxpayer. Don't condemn the whole bunch just because of the shortcomings of a few. I do agree that it is time for a change in the sheriff's office. But it is also time for a sheriff's merit board to be appointed, staffed by citizens of this county. That way the actual end user of the sheriff's office (the citizens) have some say in the matters that go on within the walls.
A Merit Board would not give citizens any say on what happens within the sheriff's office. The board is comprised of five members, two appointed by the Judge Executive, two appointed by the Sheriff, and one elected by the deputies. The only function it would serve is to hold hearings regarding disciplinary matters concerning deputy sheriffs.
whoever

United States

#39 Oct 27, 2009
And those persons would not be citizens. I am sure those appointed by the Judge Executive would have his or her best interest in mind, the same as those appointed by the Sheriff and the deputies. But in response to those who have complained that there are bad deputies, this board would have sway in orders of disciplinary actions as well as hiring of those deputies. It would also take politics out of the decisions that the deputies make as they would no longer be a c0omplete at will employee of the Sheriff. The deputies would be free to do there job correctly.
common sense

Nicholasville, KY

#40 Oct 27, 2009
Sorry whoever but you have some of your facts wrong. First, the members of the Merit Board, by law, must be citizens of Jessamine County. They also cannot be related to any member of the JCSO including the sheriff. Second, a Merit Board has NO say in hiring matters. They are strictly a disciplinary review board. It has NO say in the day to day running of the Sheriff's office. Third, it would give some appeal process to a deputy who is summarily terminated, but with four members on the board appointed by the Judge Exec and Sheriff, I don't have much hope for the deputy (who is able to appeal their decision to Circuit Court).
While I feel most of the deputies would be all for a Merit Board, especially since the Policemans Bill of Rights has been ruled not to apply to them, the odds of the Fiscal Court enacting an ordinance to create one are long indeed.
The KRS regarding this matter is 70.260-70.273. I suggest you read it before making statements about what a Board could and could not do.
whoever

United States

#41 Oct 27, 2009
Common Sense,

I am pretty familiar with the KRS. However you miss the whole point of my statements. Stating that they would not be citizens is a backhanded comment at you, for being so glum. Of course they would be citizens. As for not being related to the Sheriff or Judge Exec. Please, you don't have to be a relative to be in somebodies pocket.

Yes of course I do agree with you that the Deputies would be for the board. As was the point of my statement. Do you truly think that a deputy in an at will environment gets a fair shake when a complaint is lodged, or the citzen for that matter? Do you think that the thoughts of political suicide does not cross the deputies mind as he/she preforms thier duties? If not you must get out a we bit more. Also having say in the hiring and discplinary action within the sheriff's office would give the board wide sway in the day to day operations.
common sense

Lexington, KY

#42 Oct 28, 2009
Well, if you are so familiar with KRS then you should know that a Merit Board has nothing to do with hiring matters. It functions solely as a disciplinary board, or as an appeals board if the deputy so chooses.
I don't understand what you mean by "glum". My comment prior to yours is entirely true in that citizens. other than those five, would have no more say in what happens within the SO than they did before the Board was put in place. And even they would have no say in the day to day running of the SO. Disciplinary matters aren't every day occurences and they wouldn't necessarily even be brought before the board in all cases.
Do I think at will deputies/citizens get a fair shake when a complaint is lodged? Yes, I do. Corman gives everyone a chance to explain their actions when questioned and isn't hesitant to impose disciplinary measures if warranted.
I don't think a deputy thinks of "political suicide" when they perform their duties. First, they aren't politicians. Second, I don't know any deputy, and I know them all, who would change how they enforce the law because of political considerations. Contrary to popular belief, it's not an issue that weighs on their mind while they are patroling the county.
whoever

United States

#43 Oct 28, 2009
Then Common Sense, how are they not connected to hiring? They set the standard, and if you don't think politics plays a part, I guess Sheriff Corman has never asked you to take care of a ticket... yet...

As for documentation....for the support of setting standards for appointment....

70.261 Adoption of rules -- Certified copies -- Subjects addressed -- Issuance of additional rules -- Repeal or amendment of existing rules.
(1) When a county creates a deputy sheriff merit board, the board shall issue, and publish within forty-eight (48) hours after their adoption, rules that are not inconsistent with the provisions of KRS 70.260 to 70.273. The board shall provide a certified copy of the rules to:
(a) The sheriff of the county who shall additionally post a copy in a conspicuous place in the main office and in any branch offices where deputies are regularly assigned to work from;
(b) The county judge/executive of the county; and
(c) The legislative body of the county.
(2) The board shall, at a minimum, adopt a body of rules that addresses the following subjects:
(a) For deputy sheriffs:
1. Qualifications for initial and continued employment, which shall at a minimum include: citizenship, age, physical, mental, and educational requirements;
2. Grounds for temporary appointments;
3. Advancement requirements. Deputy sheriffs shall be employed for at least three (3) full years before being eligible for the rank of sergeant;
4. Factors that shall, or may, result in demotion, the procedures for determining whether or not to demote a deputy, and the procedures for executing a demotion;
5. Factors that shall, or may, result in fining, probation, suspension, or removal; and
6. Administrative procedures for the deputies in the office such as transfer, layoff, and reinstatement.
(b) For the general administration of the board itself:
1. Organizational structure and conduct of meetings;
2. Procedure and conduct of public hearings as a result of the board's actions; and
3. Implementation and execution of written and oral examinations, and physical tests of fitness for appointment and promotion of deputies.
(3) The subsequent issuance of additional rules, or of the repeal or amendment of existing rules shall follow the provisions indicated in subsection (1) of this section.
Effective: July 15, 1998
History: Created 1998 Ky. Acts ch. 244, sec. 10, effective July 15, 1998; and ch. 510, sec. 10, effective July 15, 1998.
Legislative Research Commission Note (7/15/98). This section was created by 1998 Ky. Acts ch. 244, sec. 10, and ch. 510, sec. 10, which are identical and have been codified together.
silver bullet

Nicholasville, KY

#44 Oct 28, 2009
Sickened Citizen wrote:
After the Melissa Helton case, my bet is, you won't be there the next election.
Ok Im dumb. I havent kept up with the Helton case shame on me. what happened?
common sense

Nicholasville, KY

#45 Oct 28, 2009
whoever, because those issues are already addressed by DOCJT within POPS (Police Officer Professional Standards). I guess I can understand your point of view, that by setting a standard (which could only be higher than what POPS requires) the Board would be "involved" in hiring. However, my point was that they wouldn't have any say in who was hired or was not hired.
common sense

Nicholasville, KY

#46 Oct 28, 2009
Oh, and as for taking care of a ticket, this is not something exclusive to Corman. Cops ask each other for favors all the time when someone close to them gets a ticket. And the operative word in your statement is "asked". To my knowledge, he has never demanded a citation be withdrawn.
common sense

Nicholasville, KY

#47 Oct 28, 2009
silver bullet wrote:
<quoted text>Ok Im dumb. I havent kept up with the Helton case shame on me. what happened?
Helton pled guilty but reserved the right to appeal the non-consensual drawing of her blood. Now, Helton was unconcious so deputies didn't need a warrant to get her blood drawn at the hospital. However, the judges ruled there wasn't any evidence documented in the case record of their (the deputies) reasonable grounds to believe Helton was drinking prior to the accident. That's not to say there was no reasonable grounds, just that it wasn't addressed by the Circuit Court. So they sent the case back to the Circuit Court to consider this issue.
One reason this may have occurred is that the defense stipulated there was reasonable grounds to believe she was drinking. Therefore the court may have never read any of the deputies observations into the record.

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