Are you a real American?

[Patch]

I Am the Liberal-Progressives Worst Nightmare. I am an American.
I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some Liberal governmental functionary be it Democratic or Republican!
I'm in touch with my feelings and I like it that way!
I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.
I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.
I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, do it in English.
I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to.
My heroes are John Wayne, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.
I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor, if the poor are too sorry to work and waste most of what they are given.
I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time watching or arguing about it.
I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I haven't burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you! So, shut up already.
I believe if you don't like the way things are here, go back to where you came from and change your own country! This is America!
If you were born here and don't like it, you are free to move to any Socialist country that will have you.
I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson preaches, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?
I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry rear if you're running from them..
I also think they have the right to pull you over if you're breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.
And, no, I don't mind having my face shown on my drivers license. I think it's good..... And I'm proud that "God" is written on my money.
I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.
I dislike those people standing in the intersections trying to sell me stuff or trying to guilt me into making "donations" to their cause.
I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.
I believe "illegal" is illegal no matter what the lawyers think.
I believe the American flag should be the only one allowed in AMERICA.If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I'm a BAD American.
If you are a BAD American too, please share this with everyone you know.
We want our country back!

[Ben]

You're washed up and obsolete. That is all.

[Patch]

Some of the things in my post are just personal....but let's see, I think a big percentage of AMERICANS would agree with a lot of it, such as:

Keeping the money that they work hard for.
Owning a gun for family & self protection.
Being in a minority doesn't mean you should get extra benefits or be taken care of by the people who DO work.
English is the established AMERICAN language.
Americans do not own slaves..white,black,or yellow.
If you don't like AMERICA there are lots of countries you may chose from to live.
Parents are responsible to raise their children, not the goverment.
This is AMERICA, I see no reason we should fly any other flag. Our young men and women have given ( and are) their lives for that flag.

If you don't agree with any of the post I have a question for you. What country are you from?

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God , guns and babies!

[The Mindless American]

I also am a proud american!

I want to keep as much money as I make for myself but understand that government has to have money to provide for the things I take for granted like roads, free education, police officers, firemen, the military, clean drinking water, and the basic infrastructure which allows me to have electric, cable and internet.

I am proud to live in a nation that says nobody should go hungry, be homeless, or without medical care as long as it can be prevented.

I am proud to live in a country where I can not believe in any God if I so choose.

I am proud to live in a nation where there is no one set of opinions that are force fed to me or my children.

I am proud to live in a country where if someone disagrees with my point of view they are entitled to do so and can say so loudly then go back to their own home. No need for them to leave the country!

I am proud to live in a country where people are free enough to be allowed to take pride in their national/racial heritages while still being an American.

I am proud to live in a nation where the term American covers a broad array of people who believe vastly different things yet who manage to live in peace with one another.

The way in which the original poster uses the term "real American" seems to belittle anyone who believes differently than him and makes it seem that if you don't love America for the same reasons as him that you aren't "really" one of us.

How un-American is that?

[Rudu]

Haven't you ever heard of the working poor? Not all of them are on public assistance and are barely getting by. Who will take care of these children if their parents won't?
Adoption isn't the answer because as it stands, there are lots of kids that nobody wants and those that are wanted can't be adopted because of rules and qualifications. Thank God for that because if there weren't rules then any pedophile could legally adopt. Even then there are those that slip thru the holes. Everything just isn't as clear cut as you'd like it.
I know a woman and her husband who are republicans. They are as hard core as you. Guess what, they're getting food stamps and quite a bit. She doesn't mind twisting the facts to benefit her. She even help her brother get a "crazy" check. Ridiculous!!!

[Anon Einstein]

The Mindless American wrote:

I also am a proud american!

I want to keep as much money as I make for myself but understand that government has to have money to provide for the things I take for granted like roads, free education, police officers, firemen, the military, clean drinking water, and the basic infrastructure which allows me to have electric, cable and internet.

I am proud to live in a nation that says nobody should go hungry, be homeless, or without medical care as long as it can be prevented.

I am proud to live in a country where I can not believe in any God if I so choose.

I am proud to live in a nation where there is no one set of opinions that are force fed to me or my children.

I am proud to live in a country where if someone disagrees with my point of view they are entitled to do so and can say so loudly then go back to their own home. No need for them to leave the country!

I am proud to live in a country where people are free enough to be allowed to take pride in their national/racial heritages while still being an American.

I am proud to live in a nation where the term American covers a broad array of people who believe vastly different things yet who manage to live in peace with one another.

The way in which the original poster uses the term "real American" seems to belittle anyone who believes differently than him and makes it seem that if you don't love America for the same reasons as him that you aren't "really" one of us.

How un-American is that?

I agree with everything you just said.

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[Anon Einstein]

North America is a continent!

[damn straight]

RED WHITE and BLUE all the way!!!

Americans need to learn there history and protect there rights!

~ Proud American

[RealCaptainAmeri ca]

damn straight wrote:

RED WHITE and BLUE all the way!!!

Americans need to learn there history and protect there rights!

~ Proud American

RED WHITE and BLUE im from PANAMA!

[RealCaptainAmeri ca]

RealCaptainAmerica wrote:

<quoted text>RED WHITE and BLUE im from PANAMA!

Arriva Puerto Rico! Cuba! And the Dominican Republic!

[RealCaptainAmeri ca]

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

[Jumping in]

Man Amen to that, your what I call a patriot, I think people should take pride in their herritage but of you come here then you shouldn't try to change America if you don't like it I back home. Simple, the pundit fathers wanted us to take pride in this unique country of ours where we are free to express our opinion, ad I don't like what you have to say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. This country is great an if you dont like the fact that we have guns the just Rember private gun Owners defeated the British

[RealCaptainAmeri ca]

Jumping in wrote:

Man Amen to that, your what I call a patriot, I think people should take pride in their herritage but of you come here then you shouldn't try to change America if you don't like it I back home. Simple, the pundit fathers wanted us to take pride in this unique country of ours where we are free to express our opinion, ad I don't like what you have to say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. This country is great an if you dont like the fact that we have guns the just Rember private gun Owners defeated the British

I don't care about private gun owners and I'm not here to promo violence but you know what i might just get a gun my self! lol what we need is better gun control though we don't want the same thing that happened in Aurora Colorado to happen again do we?

[The Mindless American]

Jumping in wrote:

Man Amen to that, your what I call a patriot, I think people should take pride in their herritage but of you come here then you shouldn't try to change America if you don't like it I back home. Simple, the pundit fathers wanted us to take pride in this unique country of ours where we are free to express our opinion, ad I don't like what you have to say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. This country is great an if you dont like the fact that we have guns the just Rember private gun Owners defeated the British

You miss the point of America when you say things like this. The point of a melting pot society is to change. It adapts, it takes on new ideas, it re-invents itself. When a society is unable to do those things it stagnates and dies. Instead of clinging desperately to past glories and old-fashioned ideals you should revel in the advancement of new ways of doing things and new ideas. Celebrate the differences rather than fearing them. The biggest threat to the future of America is not the future! It is those who can't see it because they are always looking backwards. Today's decisions should not be made to avoid the future by trying to recreate a mythic past. Rather, the past should inform the decisions of today so we can forge a brighter future. My main issue with conservatives and men like Mitt Romney is that they want to return us to a "glorious" past that never really existed. The vision people have of 1950's America is a fiction created by the Hollywood of the time. "Father Knows Best", "Leave it to Beaver", and the rest were not what 50's America was really like. 1950's America was a repressed, paranoid time for America. The government was oppressive, the morality was hypocritical, racism was a way of life, relegation of women to subservient roles was the norm. This is the world that Conservative want to return to. A world of government controlled fear and morality!

NO THANKS! Obama 2012

[The Mindless American]

Jumping in wrote:

Man Amen to that, your what I call a patriot, I think people should take pride in their herritage but of you come here then you shouldn't try to change America if you don't like it I back home. Simple, the pundit fathers wanted us to take pride in this unique country of ours where we are free to express our opinion, ad I don't like what you have to say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. This country is great an if you dont like the fact that we have guns the just Rember private gun Owners defeated the British

I do agree with you on guns. An armed populace keeps America free. The bumpersticker statement that "If you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have them" is true but isn't true enough. The main reason for the "right to own and bear arms" is not there for just self-defense or hunting privaleges. It is there so that the populace can protect itself from its own government should that government become oppressive. We are a "free" people and we have the inalienable right to self governance.

I understand why some people think there should be tighter controls but I (as a card carrying leftist LIBERAL) whole heartedly disagree. Better to punish criminals for criminal actions than to run the risk of having a disarmed populace under the thumb of a well trained and armed government!

[My thoughts]

I agree with points from both the original poster and Mindless. I believe that America is the worlds big dream, a Utopia of sorts for many oppressed people. From the day a bunch of farmers banded together and liberated themselves from tyranny it became a land of hopes and dreams. At what point though does it stop being a catch all for the worlds oppressed? I feel for the plights of these people but there are Americans, people born in this country, who are going without jobs, housing, shelter, and safety. I am not saying people should not be aloud to immigrate here, but there should be stricter laws for illegal immigrants. People shouldn't be aloud to hop the border and immediately receive food stamps, medical care, housing, free education, or any other incentives offered to Americans. It infuriates me that there are children in this country starving, eating out of trash cans, and there are illegal immigrants receiving government benefits. America is very quickly becoming over populated and our resources are diminishing and there will come a point in time when America will no longer be able to offer the 'Utopian' dream to people.
As for guns, The second amendment states: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Well all I will say on this one is if you try to break into my home you will find out real quick how I exercise my right to bear arms. There are some exceptions to this. I agree that persons whom are mentally unstable, convicted criminals, or at risk should be subject to loose that right. I also think that a gun safety class should be required for anyone purchasing a weapon, cause guns dont kill people, people kill people!
I truly believe that our economy is falling right out from beneath our feet, and I dont necessarily believe that it is a problem that can easily be fixed. It is going to take radical change and I am not sure what those changes will hold for us, but every year we slip farther and farther towards a complete crash. I will vote because I was taught that it is my duty as an American to do so, but I will do it with a heavy heart. I dont believe either of our presidential candidates are up to the job.

[The Mindless American]

My thoughts wrote:

I agree with points from both the original poster and Mindless. I believe that America is the worlds big dream, a Utopia of sorts for many oppressed people. From the day a bunch of farmers banded together and liberated themselves from tyranny it became a land of hopes and dreams. At what point though does it stop being a catch all for the worlds oppressed? I feel for the plights of these people but there are Americans, people born in this country, who are going without jobs, housing, shelter, and safety. I am not saying people should not be aloud to immigrate here, but there should be stricter laws for illegal immigrants. People shouldn't be aloud to hop the border and immediately receive food stamps, medical care, housing, free education, or any other incentives offered to Americans.

I get what you are saying but let me dispel one myth for you. Every single Federal Benefits program prohibits undocumented aliens from receiving benefits. The belief that they do is a really common misconception. They do not!
It may be a little bit of a case of splitting hairs but the fact is that ineligible aliens are not permitted to receive federal money. However, their citizen children are permitted and that is why the myth persists. Federal law makes any child born on American soil, even one with two illegal alien parents, a citizen at birth and therefore entitled to any and all of the support provided to citizens living in poverty.
To prevent undocumented alien households with children born in the United States from receiving any benefits at all wpould require a Constitutional Amendment. That is a huge deal! It would have a huge impact and it would have a lot of unintended consequences.
There are other ways to attack the issue that don't require an Amendment to the Constitution that would probably work better anyway. First and foremost would be to impose extremely harsh penalties to employers who use undocumented alien laborers. But even this is subject to unintended consequences. If they ever do it be prepared for the price spikes in pretty much every sector of the economy. Cheap labor keeps costs down currently and the loss of it would result in much higher operating costs for businesses which would mean higher products for the products of those companies. You would also see more outsourcing as more manufacturers would move shop to Mexico and other low labor cost countries.
I honestly believe the solution is counter-intuitive. I think we need to set up New Ellis Islands on the Mexican border and let them come legally. That way they are subjected to American labor laws, who is coming and going can be tracked better, and border patrol can focus on the bad elements crossing illegally for less than honorable purposes.
Under the current system illegals have a competive edge in the job market since they operate outside American Labor Laws. Take away their edge and make them compete on equal footing with Americans. Make it a condition of their "legal" entry that neither they nor their children shall be eligible for assistance of any kind for a period of not less than 10 years...

[My thoughts]

Yes that does sound reasonable, and I agree could become more effective. I just wish something would be done soon. Another worry I have is the fact that illegal immigrants are entering the country illegally for the sole purpose of having children. They believe that this will be enough to care for them, and in a sense it does. They benefit from the nutritional assistance the children receive, if they become sick they can go to a hospital and receive medical treatment, and so on. Basically there is a loophole here and it is common knowledge. Take that into account the people in this country using cheap immigrant labor to reduce their costs and there is a huge problem. What are we to do as a country? Their children are Americans with all the rights they are entitled but their parents are illegal, so we basically reward people for sneaking into the country and re-producing. The alternative is to revoke the rights of the children legally born here there by infringing on their rights as Americans. If we were to allow them in legally they would cross over in droves and our economy, already on the brink of a major economical crash, would be reduced into a third world country in a matter of years. The only way they could ensure it to work is to completely secure the border, which up to this point they have not been able to do. I just know that something needs to happen soon, and I dont envy the guys in Washington who are suppose to make all these decisions. The system now isn't working and all they can seem to do is argue about everything, so nothing actually gets done.