Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
d pantz

Taylor, MI

#32388 Aug 4, 2014
I voted for Johnson last presidential election.
Old Guy wrote:
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You told me a while back that you never voted for Democrats or Republicans for President, but you never said who you DO vote for (or if you even vote.) I'm trying to understand where you are coming from, politically.
d pantz

Taylor, MI

#32389 Aug 4, 2014
Hillary said GW made her proud to be an American... BTW you vote for neocons, congratulations. http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/22/123306...
you might as well had voted for Bush twice. You're a total hypocrite and an ass.
Canton wrote:
My question to you is since you are playing clever, is where did all those racist neighbors uncles and coworkers that we have all known growing up, magically and suddenly disappear to when Obama took office? Okay, back to your very telling and very defensive questions about Democrat Senate blah blah blah. You guys are a bunch of Bible thumping, gun hoarding racists and all of America can clearly tell it. You clowns not only aren't fooling anyone, but you got left in the dust by the future of this great nation.
Toodles hasbeens...Hilary 2016!!!
Woooooo!!!! Woooooooooo!!!
d pantz

Taylor, MI

#32390 Aug 4, 2014
The biggest kool aid drinker here... Canton.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32391 Aug 4, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Oh! It's facts you like?
Poll: Registered Voters Want A Republican House AND Senate
...

43 percent of registered voters wanted Republicans in the majority and 41 percent wanted Democrats in the majority, with 16 percent unsure.
...

And for the Class Clowns, The Daily Caller didn't conduct the survey, they are only reporting on it.
If you look at the last paragraph, the Daily Caller mentions the margin of error (MOE) for these polls is +/- 3.9%. That means that the difference between the Republicans and Democrats (2%) is not statistically significant, so that the truth is that the Congressional races are too close to call. The Daily Caller headline is being deliberately deceptive.

"NBC polled 760 adults with a margin of error of plus-minus 3.6 percentage points."

http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/03/poll-regist...
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32392 Aug 4, 2014
Oh, and the margin of error mentioned in their article is +/- 3.6%, but that's for all residents. If you just look at registered voters it's +/- 3.9%. That's why our numbers were slightly different.

"August 2014: Registered voters: n=634, MOE +/- 3.9%; Residents: n=760, MOE +/- 3.6%"

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_...
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32393 Aug 4, 2014
d pantz wrote:
I voted for Johnson last presidential election. <quoted text>
He seemed like an OK guy when I briefly saw him during the first Republican debate. He struck me as a reasonable fiscal conservative. But his lack of experience in international affairs troubled me. And I didn't think he stood a chance in the Republican race with his views on the legalization of marijuana.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32394 Aug 4, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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If you look at the last paragraph, the Daily Caller mentions the margin of error (MOE) for these polls is +/- 3.9%. That means that the difference between the Republicans and Democrats (2%) is not statistically significant, so that the truth is that the Congressional races are too close to call. The Daily Caller headline is being deliberately deceptive.
"NBC polled 760 adults with a margin of error of plus-minus 3.6 percentage points."
http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/03/poll-regist...
And that can go plus 3.6% as well.

Anyway the point is that this old worn out wives tale that the public is sick of Republicans and conservatism is on it's way out is exactly that--an old wives tale. Been hearing it for years. It's wishful thinking at best and even the Democrats realize they are in big trouble with this clown in the White House.

All DumBam's little stunts are coming back to haunt him and his party, and I couldn't be happier. When the tens of millions that still don't have health insurance see their income tax refund cut or not come at all, then you are going to see a new wave of Obama haters in the country. Should be perfect timing for next presidential election.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32395 Aug 4, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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And that can go plus 3.6% as well.
Anyway the point is that this old worn out wives tale that the public is sick of Republicans and conservatism is on it's way out is exactly that--an old wives tale.
What I've been hearing is that this one is too close to call.

I know you aren't an engineer, but here's the deal: I give you a standard 12" ruler, and ask you to measure an inch. How close will you get?

This particular ruler is smudged pretty badly. Every time you measure that inch it's not quite the same.

Now, instead of inches, you are measuring political opinion.

The best this particular ruler can do is +/- 3.6%. Which is fine when the differences you are measuring are 20 or 30 percent. But it starts to get a bit dicey when the differences are closer to 10% or less.

When the difference is only 2%, this particular ruler just can't discriminate a difference that tiny.

That's what makes a horse race, and, based on this poll, it's a dead heat.
DEMSRULE

Ashland, KY

#32396 Aug 4, 2014
You do understand that 2014 was supposed to be a retardican sweep year, right? This couldn't be better. Retardicans can't stop fighting among themselves long enough to assemble a single piece of legislation that's acceptable to moderates AND batshit teapartiers. Here's their problem. They're supposed to do their jobs no matter who's in the White House. They won't, or can't, or can't figure out how. It doesn't matter which. They look like idiots. They always jump the wrong way, trying to satisfy the extremists in their party, so they've pissed off women and minorities and established themselves as the deportation party. Worst campaign strategy ever. As the election nears, they'll do that other dumb thing they always do, try to suppress the vote in Democratic areas. That generally causes a lot of Democrats to get out and vote against them no matter what. Ah, retardicans. They never learn anything, no matter how many bitter lessons they're taught.
ino

Clyde, OH

#32397 Aug 4, 2014
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32398 Aug 4, 2014
ino wrote:
ino, do you understand that the article that the Democratic Underground linked to is a pretty obvious JOKE? This is the last line of their post, which maybe you missed:

"Too bad it's satire.."
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32399 Aug 4, 2014
The headline was also a clue:

"Sean Hannity Denounces Israeli Assault on Gaza (LBN satire)"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10148629...
ino

Clyde, OH

#32400 Aug 4, 2014
It has been edited for sure, because that wasn't the same comments as before. Nothing new for Democrats they change shit all the time.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32401 Aug 5, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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What I've been hearing is that this one is too close to call.
I know you aren't an engineer, but here's the deal: I give you a standard 12" ruler, and ask you to measure an inch. How close will you get?
This particular ruler is smudged pretty badly. Every time you measure that inch it's not quite the same.
Now, instead of inches, you are measuring political opinion.
The best this particular ruler can do is +/- 3.6%. Which is fine when the differences you are measuring are 20 or 30 percent. But it starts to get a bit dicey when the differences are closer to 10% or less.
When the difference is only 2%, this particular ruler just can't discriminate a difference that tiny.
That's what makes a horse race, and, based on this poll, it's a dead heat.
Agreed. I don't put any good money on polls especially this far away from an election because anything could happen. We might suffer another terrorists attack. Our economy might improve greatly which I suspect might be the case because our company is busy as hell and talking with other drivers, their companies are busy too. We could have an outbreak of diseases traced back to one of these kids jumping over our border. Anything could happen.

But what I don't expect to happen is a close race in the next election. I don't see a 50/50 win for both Republicans and Democrats. I see a loss for Democrats, it's just a matter of how bad they will lose.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#32402 Aug 5, 2014
ino wrote:
It has been edited for sure, because that wasn't the same comments as before. Nothing new for Democrats they change shit all the time.
Yet you quote sources that have reported satire articles as facts, and believe them. Do you also call the 1-800 numbers for products you see on Saturday Night Live?
ino

Clyde, OH

#32403 Aug 5, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Yet you quote sources that have reported satire articles as facts, and believe them. Do you also call the 1-800 numbers for products you see on Saturday Night Live?
Democratic Underground is a satire site?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#32404 Aug 5, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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What I've been hearing is that this one is too close to call.
I know you aren't an engineer, but here's the deal: I give you a standard 12" ruler, and ask you to measure an inch. How close will you get?
This particular ruler is smudged pretty badly. Every time you measure that inch it's not quite the same.
Now, instead of inches, you are measuring political opinion.
The best this particular ruler can do is +/- 3.6%. Which is fine when the differences you are measuring are 20 or 30 percent. But it starts to get a bit dicey when the differences are closer to 10% or less.
When the difference is only 2%, this particular ruler just can't discriminate a difference that tiny.
That's what makes a horse race, and, based on this poll, it's a dead heat.
someone who cared about accuracy would use a micrometer for exact measurements.

Guessing like liberals seem to always do, almost always have reverse outcome desired occur.

Being precise and exact is always better than guessing.

Utilizing a ruler with smudged indicators when digital precise equipment is readily available is not good science.

In 2014 mid term elections expect a lot of firing of incumbents. I predict Harry Reid is no longer Senate leader, and lots of Freshman realizing they were elected to fix what is broken or be fired at next opportunity helps repair broken Washington DC.

woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#32405 Aug 5, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Agreed. I don't put any good money on polls especially this far away from an election because anything could happen. We might suffer another terrorists attack. Our economy might improve greatly which I suspect might be the case because our company is busy as hell and talking with other drivers, their companies are busy too. We could have an outbreak of diseases traced back to one of these kids jumping over our border. Anything could happen.
But what I don't expect to happen is a close race in the next election. I don't see a 50/50 win for both Republicans and Democrats. I see a loss for Democrats, it's just a matter of how bad they will lose.
Like those 'ebola' claims the far right is spewing out? The usual fear tactic, which is mainly all they have. Just one fine example, and there's more:
www.politifact.com
DR Rep. Phil Gingrey statement.
ino

Clyde, OH

#32406 Aug 5, 2014
Making a list of who I hope gets it.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32407 Aug 5, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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Guessing ... almost always have reverse outcome desired occur.
There might be something to that, for some folks. The last election, you guessed President Romney, right?
Reality Speaks wrote:
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In 2014 mid term elections expect a lot of firing of incumbents. I predict Harry Reid is no longer Senate leader, and lots of Freshman realizing they were elected to fix what is broken or be fired at next opportunity helps repair broken Washington DC.
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