dumbicrat

Hurricane, WV

#27207 Mar 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
Funny how the people who keep saying "I don't trust either side" are always right wing Conservative Republicans who formed their views under GW Bush, after voting for him twice. Wonder why?
I trust one side, the right. If there were more bluedog dems, then I'd have more faith in them because they haven't given up their morals altogether. And by morals, I mean they don't do things that are unconstitutional, they still stick to the basic rules of the land and don't decide it's a good idea to lie to the infidels because "we the people" don't count to them anymore.
dumbicrat

Hurricane, WV

#27208 Mar 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
I forget. Is 11% unemployment higher or lower than under Obama?

When Ronald Reagan came into office 1981, unemployment was at 7.5%. After Reagan cut taxes for the wealthy, he began raising taxes on the middle and lower class. Corporations started to ship more jobs out of the United States while hiring cheap foreign labor in order to make a bigger profit. While corporations made billions, Americans across the country lost their jobs. As 1982 came to a close, unemployment was nearly 11%. Unemployment began to drop as the years went on, but the jobs that were created were low paying and barely helped people make ends meet. The middle and lower class had their wages nearly frozen as the top earners saw dramatic increases in salary.
I don't at all think that taxes for the wealthy should be lower than that of middle and lower class, but I do think they should be a flat rate across the board. Because the wealthy will still be paying a very large amount of taxes and the middle and low class people won't have to pay more to make up for the wealthy not paying their part. Many republicans believe in that theory.
Canton

Canton, OH

#27209 Mar 26, 2014
dumbicrat wrote:
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I don't at all think that taxes for the wealthy should be lower than that of middle and lower class, but I do think they should be a flat rate across the board. Because the wealthy will still be paying a very large amount of taxes and the middle and low class people won't have to pay more to make up for the wealthy not paying their part. Many republicans believe in that theory.
Unfortunately, in the place our country is right now, to make things on equal ground with the poor, middle class, rich and corporations, seeing how "the law of the land" GOP went with calling corps a person, would be called nothing short of wealth redistribution from the right. Between Reagan and Bush kissing up to the wealthiest, things are already so far in favor of the wealthy and the corporations that it's a little too late to play let's all get along, as far as the middle class goes. You guys can talk Obama phones or this or that got Obama elected, but the middle class, hard working, tax paying Americans got a front row seat to your trickle down and saw how nothing was a trickling. It has been the GOP that put the GOP in the tattered state they are in and all the Liberals have to do to win again is to just let your side keep talking.
Canton

Canton, OH

#27210 Mar 26, 2014
dumbicrat wrote:
<quoted text>
I trust one side, the right. If there were more bluedog dems, then I'd have more faith in them because they haven't given up their morals altogether. And by morals, I mean they don't do things that are unconstitutional, they still stick to the basic rules of the land and don't decide it's a good idea to lie to the infidels because "we the people" don't count to them anymore.
I don't think it was a coincidence that our nation became so divided and polarized to the point that most of us on both sides find ourselves having to stick to our guns on things that we really don't care about. I am for the most part pro-gun, with some common sense tossed in there. I am sure there are many Republicans that don't care if gays get married. I am somewhat against abortion, but with no religious ties, and I realize it is not my decision to be making for someone. Still, we are forced to fight for these basically non-points because the rules are now to never admit you are wrong on anything, or it certainly means you are wrong about everything. There are people on here that will fight tooth and nail for the oil lobby. They really don't have a dog in the fight, but they are expected to, just as much as I am expected to be some Al Gore groupie on a baby killing fest. Society and the media has created this landscape and I honestly think if you lived your life and paid no attention to who was doing what in the Whitehouse, our lives would pretty much be the same, Republican or Democrat running the show. In fact, I bet we would all be happier if we just lived our lives, and only worried about what we dealt with on a daily basis. Unless of course you are constantly being slowed down on your way to work by that crazy Nancy Pelosi, or that darn Rush Limbaugh keeps letting his dog crap in your yard. I'm not saying to play dumb to the reality of things, but where does it stop? How much unrelated political crap can we care about? If you didn't see it on tv, we would live our entire lives the exact same way, whether Russia took Crimea or not. No matter what Obama did about it, it would never be right. Who cares? See you in the middle.
Loony Lib

Dayton, OH

#27211 Mar 26, 2014
And, what did the Bushmen and friends do to end or even restrict, beside lying and trying to trick the hicks, while pouting and shouting about ending the immigration invasion while these reliable rich retard Republicons imported more poor cheap turd-world labor into our nation, that would in effect reduce or stop their profits?
dumbicrat

Hurricane, WV

#27212 Mar 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think it was a coincidence that our nation became so divided and polarized to the point that most of us on both sides find ourselves having to stick to our guns on things that we really don't care about. I am for the most part pro-gun, with some common sense tossed in there. I am sure there are many Republicans that don't care if gays get married. I am somewhat against abortion, but with no religious ties, and I realize it is not my decision to be making for someone. Still, we are forced to fight for these basically non-points because the rules are now to never admit you are wrong on anything, or it certainly means you are wrong about everything. There are people on here that will fight tooth and nail for the oil lobby. They really don't have a dog in the fight, but they are expected to, just as much as I am expected to be some Al Gore groupie on a baby killing fest. Society and the media has created this landscape and I honestly think if you lived your life and paid no attention to who was doing what in the Whitehouse, our lives would pretty much be the same, Republican or Democrat running the show. In fact, I bet we would all be happier if we just lived our lives, and only worried about what we dealt with on a daily basis. Unless of course you are constantly being slowed down on your way to work by that crazy Nancy Pelosi, or that darn Rush Limbaugh keeps letting his dog crap in your yard. I'm not saying to play dumb to the reality of things, but where does it stop? How much unrelated political crap can we care about? If you didn't see it on tv, we would live our entire lives the exact same way, whether Russia took Crimea or not. No matter what Obama did about it, it would never be right. Who cares? See you in the middle.
I actually agree with you and your views. Again, I'm not a full on right winger. I think there should be some kind of compromise. If we got rid of the hard right AND the hard left, we'd have it made. Because we wouldn't be cold hard Bible thumpers or cold hard Communists, Socialists, or Radicals.

Since: Jan 12

Chillicothe, OH

#27213 Mar 26, 2014
dumbicrat wrote:
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I actually agree with you and your views. Again, I'm not a full on right winger. I think there should be some kind of compromise. If we got rid of the hard right AND the hard left, we'd have it made. Because we wouldn't be cold hard Bible thumpers or cold hard Communists, Socialists, or Radicals.
I think we should get rid of both parties stick straight to the issues at hand and vote for who you believe can do the job correctly. Also we need term limits. I vote independent just for that reason. Both parties are blow hards, worthless, and out for themselves period!
Canton

Canton, OH

#27215 Mar 26, 2014
classychazy wrote:
<quoted text>
I think we should get rid of both parties stick straight to the issues at hand and vote for who you believe can do the job correctly. Also we need term limits. I vote independent just for that reason. Both parties are blow hards, worthless, and out for themselves period!
Unfortunately and quite connivingly so, there already is a group of folks who claim to not be on either side. They already set themselves up with open arms to all who feel disenfranchised by whatever party they were following. The unfortunate part is that they are really just right wing, Conservative Republicans with the same old religious agenda they had before they rebranded themselves. Take the Tea Party for instance.

Guess that whole chase your dreams and going away thing turned into you changing your screen name.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27218 Mar 26, 2014
classychazy wrote:
<quoted text>
I think we should get rid of both parties stick straight to the issues at hand and vote for who you believe can do the job correctly. Also we need term limits. I vote independent just for that reason. Both parties are blow hards, worthless, and out for themselves period!
Liberals would never go for it. Their voters are trained to vote for anybody with a "D" next to their name. Take that away, and you have a real confused bunch.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27219 Mar 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately, in the place our country is right now, to make things on equal ground with the poor, middle class, rich and corporations, seeing how "the law of the land" GOP went with calling corps a person, would be called nothing short of wealth redistribution from the right. Between Reagan and Bush kissing up to the wealthiest, things are already so far in favor of the wealthy and the corporations that it's a little too late to play let's all get along, as far as the middle class goes. You guys can talk Obama phones or this or that got Obama elected, but the middle class, hard working, tax paying Americans got a front row seat to your trickle down and saw how nothing was a trickling. It has been the GOP that put the GOP in the tattered state they are in and all the Liberals have to do to win again is to just let your side keep talking.
If that's the case, why did Americans vote for DumBama's reelection when after his first term, we had the furthest separation of the wealthy and middle-class? The wealthy have never done better.

If corporations aren't people, then how is it environmental groups and unions people?

You can't have it both ways. Republicans do nothing different than Democrats, just in a different or opposite way.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27220 Mar 26, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
So, what would you have him do? If you really want to see Gitmo closed, shouldn't you direct your anger at those that are keeping that from happening?
I don't think that's the point. The point is that DumBama ran on it and never took any action to close Gitmo until after the Republicans regained leadership of Congress. What was he doing the first two years when he had all the power in the world?

Same with Commie Care. "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan." The problem is we found out that back in 2010, he and his cohorts knew well ahead of time that many Americans were going to lose their plan and doctor. I should know, I'm one of them as of the beginning of next month.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27221 Mar 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
It's called reality, son and the fact is you don't hear Dems talking about fleeing the country or how they no longer trust either side.
If Bush get's elected, I'll leave the country...
Ever wonder what happened to all those celebrities who promised to leave the country if George W. Bush was elected president?

The original statements:

Eddie Vedder - "I'm moving to a different country if little Damien II gets elected."

Alec Baldwin - was never quoted directly, but reportedly made a statement to his wife Kim Basinger, who was later quoted in Focus magazine saying that Alec "might leave the country if Bush is elected president ... and then I'd probably have to go too."

Barbara Streisand - "I don't think you'll see me around here for at least four years."

Robert Altman - "If George Bush is elected president, I'm leaving for France."

Pierre Salinger - "If Bush wins, I'm going to leave the country and spend the rest of my life in France."

http://www.manbottle.com/humor/if_bush_get_s_... ...
half-breed

Van Wert, OH

#27222 Mar 26, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Republicans do nothing different than Democrats, just in a different or opposite way.
Sorta tripping over your own "logic" a bit there, eh little trucker buddy?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27223 Mar 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
Funny how the people who keep saying "I don't trust either side" are always right wing Conservative Republicans who formed their views under GW Bush, after voting for him twice. Wonder why?
Because conservatives are honest and liberals are liars?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#27224 Mar 26, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you learned BOTH of those things as a youth, huh...
Did you go to "school" with Reality Speaks?
YOU caught me! lol Actually I had 2 things in mind when I started the post but thought of another when I started typing my post.
The laugh is on me....you're welcome ! lol
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#27225 Mar 26, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
If he did, it would have sounded like this:
"WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."
President-elect Bush vows that "together, we can put the triumphs of the recent past behind us."
"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."
...
"We as a people must stand united, banding together to tear this nation in two," Bush said. "Much work lies ahead of us: The gap between the rich and the poor may be wide, be there's much more widening left to do. We must squander our nation's hard-won budget surplus on tax breaks for the wealthiest 15 percent. And, on the foreign front, we must find an enemy and defeat it."
"The insanity is over," Bush said. "After a long, dark night of peace and stability, the sun is finally rising again over America.""
http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-our-lon...
Of course, this is just a bit of humor from the Onion. But, it's amazingly prescient. It was published in January 2001 --- before George W. Bush ever took office!
I am NOT kissing up which I am opening myself up to the accusation of doing that, BUT I would like to be cooking out, throwing horseshoes or whatever & talk about these issues face to face with you Old Man.
2 reasons, you are always talking facts & you are always RESPECTFUL to those deserving respect.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#27226 Mar 26, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Again facts show that he hasn't done too bad considering that he has had to deal with the most obstructive, idiot filled House and the most filibustering Congress in the history of this country:
Over 500 promises made in the 2 elections;
Promises Kept---241 (45%)
Compromise---131 (25%)
Promise Broken---115 (22%)
Stalled---6 (1%)
In The Works---37 (7%)
Not Yet Rated---2
It's right there for everybody to see at Politifact
1st, where in the heck do you get your numbers?
Next, what do you mean by obstructive? IF you mean that they disagree, you may have a point. IF you mean that Obama is trying to rule WITHOUT respecting the constitutional powers of Congress, without realizing that the POTUS REPRESENTS ALL U.S. citizens & the COUNTRY instead of their/his personal agenda, without the Lobbiest that he campaigned would NOT be in D.C.(but are) would 'work across the aisle' which has never happened, would get 'word' to Putin that when he would be re-elected he would have more latitude, & now Putin rides Obama like a 1 trick pony, or Harry Reid NOT bringing squat to a vote in the senate to protect or block the Dems that would NOT tow the line .... I need to stop, the list is getting so long that I can't see either end from here.
After all, you started with, "he hasn't done too bad". He hasn't done WELL EITHER!! Not even close to well.!! Did ANY progressive/liberal say any such thing about Bush 'not doing bad'?? NO! It was attack, attack, attack.
Every president has his/her flaws. But sometimes the flaws are too many. What the heck has happened about lowering unemployment? Where are the shovel ready jobs?

Since: Jan 12

Chillicothe, OH

#27227 Mar 26, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately and quite connivingly so, there already is a group of folks who claim to not be on either side. They already set themselves up with open arms to all who feel disenfranchised by whatever party they were following. The unfortunate part is that they are really just right wing, Conservative Republicans with the same old religious agenda they had before they rebranded themselves. Take the Tea Party for instance.
Guess that whole chase your dreams and going away thing turned into you changing your screen name.
I can't stand ANY political party period! I vote from research and pure conscious I wish others would follow suit. If they did we might not be in this mess. By the way I have had the same handle since 2006 I never go by anything else.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27228 Mar 26, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> 1st, where in the heck do you get your numbers?
Next, what do you mean by obstructive? IF you mean that they disagree, you may have a point. IF you mean that Obama is trying to rule WITHOUT respecting the constitutional powers of Congress, without realizing that the POTUS REPRESENTS ALL U.S. citizens & the COUNTRY instead of their/his personal agenda, without the Lobbiest that he campaigned would NOT be in D.C.(but are) would 'work across the aisle' which has never happened, would get 'word' to Putin that when he would be re-elected he would have more latitude, & now Putin rides Obama like a 1 trick pony, or Harry Reid NOT bringing squat to a vote in the senate to protect or block the Dems that would NOT tow the line .... I need to stop, the list is getting so long that I can't see either end from here.
After all, you started with, "he hasn't done too bad". He hasn't done WELL EITHER!! Not even close to well.!! Did ANY progressive/liberal say any such thing about Bush 'not doing bad'?? NO! It was attack, attack, attack.
Every president has his/her flaws. But sometimes the flaws are too many. What the heck has happened about lowering unemployment? Where are the shovel ready jobs?
These lefties just keep making more and more excuses for their loser. Anytime you have a President of a different party than the Congress or Senate, there are always going to be disagreements.

In our current state, we don't have an obstruction Congress, we have a President that can't work with the other side. So in their minds, it's not DumBama's fault (it never is) it's the Republicans fault, just like it was Bush's fault, Limbaugh's fault, Beck's fault and everybody else's fault but DumBama.

Reagan didn't want to work with the other side--he had no choice. Not working with the other side would have turned him into an Obama. Same with Clinton. He had no desire to work with the Republicans, but again, he didn't want to go down in history as an Obama either.

But now we have Obama, and it's never Obama's fault. It's not a wonder leftists think he's the greatest President of all time. Nothing ever seems to be his fault.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27229 Mar 26, 2014
How can the GOP possibly compete on integrity with these people?

Al Sharpton, Democrats, honor woman convicted of voter fraud

March 22, 2014

While appearing at a rally to kick-off the campaign for an Ohio state constitutional amendment dealing with voters' rights, MSNBC host Al Sharpton and some Democrats honored Melowese Richardson, a former poll worker who was convicted in 2013 of voter fraud, Cincinnati.com reported Friday.

Richardson admitted voting twice for Obama in 2012, and was indicted for voting at least six times. She was also charged last year of illegal voting in the 2008 and 2011 elections.

She was sentenced to five years in prison, but was released and placed on probation after Democratic activists demanded a "fairer" term, Cincinnati.com said.

Apparently, upon noticing Richardson at the rally, held at the Word of Deliverance Church in Forest Park, Cincinnati National Action Network President Bobby Hilton called Richardson on stage for a "welcome home," where Sharpton hugged her.

The incident sparked outrage from Republicans on Twitter.

http://www.examiner.com/article/al-sharpton-d...

Gee, why do we need more restrictions on voting? There's no fraud with voting now!

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