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Big donors fuel campaign fundraising surge | The Columbus Dispatch

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Money-Buys-Elect ions

Columbus, OH

#1 Dec 19, 2010
Now think about this Statement from Kasich's Campaign spokesman!

“Until the media agree to begin working for free and start giving away free advertising, there will always be a need for campaigns to raise money,” Kasich spokesman Rob Nichols said.

With several appearances on "FOX NEWS" (Unsuitable for those under 75 years old!) Hanity, O'Reilly! Kasich telling people to visit his WEB site and Donate! Now this was FREE Advertisement!

Kasich WON so accept it and now WATCH every move he makes with a magnifying glass!
hamburger pimp

Columbus, OH

#2 Dec 19, 2010
No matter who gets elected, the rich always win. By bankrolling campaigns, they decide who's elected, not the voters.
Blinded-by-the-R ight

Columbus, OH

#3 Dec 19, 2010
hamburger pimp wrote:
No matter who gets elected, the rich always win. By bankrolling campaigns, they decide who's elected, not the voters.
Very Good! Very TRUE! The more money to SPREAD LIES! The more the Gullible Voters are!
Columbus IT Worker

New Albany, OH

#4 Dec 19, 2010
And we saw the same thing in 2006 and in 2008. In 06 the unions provided Strickland with the support and money to win office and he favored them over the last 4 years, making them rich while Ohio suffered. In 08, Obama riding the backs of Acron, SEIU and MoveOn.Org with the backing of the MSM who refused to ask any hard questions of Obama, gave his narative as directed, and attacked anyone who disagreed. And look at our country now, still in the recession, that the rest of the world is looking to leave behind. As for Kasich's appearence on O'Reilly's show, Strickland was offered the same time mulitple times yet refused to go on Fox for fear of loosing the leftwing base.
Kent Dorfman

Reynoldsburg, OH

#5 Dec 19, 2010
New car, caviar, four star daydream think I'll buy me a football team
Watch This

Columbus, OH

#6 Dec 19, 2010
Columbus IT Worker wrote:
And we saw the same thing in 2006 and in 2008. In 06 the unions provided Strickland with the support and money to win office and he favored them over the last 4 years, making them rich while Ohio suffered. In 08, Obama riding the backs of Acron, SEIU and MoveOn.Org with the backing of the MSM who refused to ask any hard questions of Obama, gave his narative as directed, and attacked anyone who disagreed. And look at our country now, still in the recession, that the rest of the world is looking to leave behind. As for Kasich's appearence on O'Reilly's show, Strickland was offered the same time mulitple times yet refused to go on Fox for fear of loosing the leftwing base.
Anybody who thinks the unions can compete on a level playing field in this battle with the bankers, wall street investment barons, insurance industry, manufacturing assocations, chamber of [horrors] commerce, pharmceutical companies, etc., is totally clueless. Where do you think the unions get the money to wage their meager campaigns??? From their dues paying members. Last I knew, none of them get paid tens of millions a dollars a year in bonuses.

Anyone who supports this system gets exactly what they deserve: politicians who pretend they care about individuals while doing the bidding for the corporations that runs this plutocracy. And, it's only going to get worse with the Citizens United decision, supported by the republikanz money machine, supremazcy court appointees and chamber of horrors. The only purpose of that decision was to define corporations as "citizens" in order to grant them the First Amendment right to contribute as much money to campagins as they want. For those of you who spout constitutional "original intent" or strict construction" nonsense like the lemmings they want you to be, wonder what the founding fathers thought about that??? Wonder who's an "activist court" now?? You think any politician cares what you think? What is Santa going to bring you for Christmas?? Kasich is a corporate insider who got hired by corporations to increase their bottom lines. Do you really think he intends to do anything to piss off those who hired him, even if it is in the best interest of the rest of the real people who live in this state? And, for those of you who have drunk the kool aid that a high tide raises all boats [i.e., "trickle down" voodoo economics], you might want to check out the increasing disparity between the "middle class" income and rich people in the country over the last 20 years. You, my friend, are attached to the anchor mooring their mega yachts!!
Columbus IT Worker

New Albany, OH

#7 Dec 19, 2010
Watch This, Unions have been spending millions in elections for years. They have outspent corporations in elections year in year out even before the Citizens United Lawsuit. We currently have a POTUS that pretends to care yet does nothing to help get America out of this recession. In fact his own advisor said "never let a good crisis go to waste" Is that the type of person that has the best interests of the country at heart of one that just wants more power. The Dems got the majority of the political donations from Wall Street the last two election cycles. BP was one of Obama's biggest donors.
You say Unions get their money from their members yet you list the Chamber of Commerce as one of the ones that can outspend them. Yet, they too only get money from their members and their members unlike your unions can't dictate to their members what dues will be, nor force them into membership. Business join the Chamber out of thier own free will. Union members are not given that, and if Card Check had been passed, they wouldn't even get the option for free elections on whether to unionize. As for the rising tides, I'd rather be in a country that allows you to get rich, like a Zuckerburg, then a country that dictates you only have the ability to make a set rate that is barely above poverty, like Cuba.
yustathought

Palm Desert, CA

#8 Dec 19, 2010
this is democracy? where money buys influence. thank you Supreme Court. One of these days, the house is gonna burn down.

Since: Apr 07

Fort Campbell, TN

#9 Dec 19, 2010
I am working to get the individual states to pass legislation that would bar politicians from accepting funding from outside their voting district for house members and state for Senators. This law should also house legislation where the states pay a member of the Congress' salaries, office rental, all office supplies including staff salaries and retirement benefits. This would eliminate the special interest and PAC money. If a politician is unable to collect his or her funding from within the state they represent then they DO NOT deserve to be a Member of the Congress. As moist of us know these people only represent those who give them the most money.

As for me as of the first of the year I will be accepting $5.00,$10.00 and $20.00 contributions to my campaign via text and my website at Face Book.

My name is Jim Hayden and I am your next President.
FB Jim Hayden for President in 2012
tom the traveler

Jackson, MI

#10 Dec 19, 2010
Personally, I attended a fundraiser for Kasich at a private home in Columbus.

It cost 1,000 per couple. Kasich took questions from the attendees who were all private citizens and not lobbyists. No one was asking for any special favors.

I also think the headline story about 25 million from 13 families over 10 years is overblown. That really is not very much money over 10 years.

The real problem is the money from big labor and big business.

I also find it humorous that a fundraiser featuring Sean Hannity raised more money than a fundraiser featuring Barack Obama.
ramseyjames

Zanesville, OH

#12 Dec 19, 2010
big donors receive special access to elected officials. > now who would ever have guessed this is the case!!!

the charter-school magnate's multimillion-dollar campaign donations > just in case folks don't realize that these charter-schools are another taxpayer money sucking business that make certain people RICH!


It's always the same old story: MONEY TALKS AND BULL**** WALKS!

Most politicians don't EARN or DESERVE public office > THEY BUY THEM!
the truth

Newark, OH

#13 Dec 19, 2010
Dems got a lot from Nationwide to cover up their dirty deals.
Columbus IT Worker

New Albany, OH

#14 Dec 19, 2010
Conservatives Lie wrote:
Cols IT worker...is defending the outrageous new-world-order by TRYING to direct blame upon unions. Did you even READ the article, Dufus?
These top 13 donors are NOT union members, and they are certainly donating to have THEIR interests considered before anyone else! Steve(The Bank Lobbyist)Stivers receives his largest donation from the very group he will be "regulating", White Hat Management is flaunting the fact that he owes fines for improper campaign shenanigans, and the disgusting ledger of vile misdeeds just goes on, and on, and on...to end where?
These 13 INDIVIDUALS donated over $25 million in this past decade, and all you can do is repeat the Faux Snooze Party line about unions? You are incredibly stupid and obtuse. This open buying of elections MUST come to an end. It is the true definition of a Plutocracy, and I am so stinking angry at the idiots of the Nation (like you) that I could break your neck upon sight.
And Leftist like you say the Conservatives are the ones filled with Hate? Here you are advocating violence and murder just because someone disagrees with your veiwpoint?

So just some fact based questions for you in return, not hate filled vitriol like you gave me.
Which though comes first, the donations or the mindset? Meaning, do politicians change from being in support of lower business taxes, lower estate taxes based on political contributions or do people donate to those politicians that already support those items? Do union donations cause politicians to support Card Check? Or do unions give money to elect politicians already in favor of Card Check? It works both ways.
So 13 families spent 192K per year in political donations. How much did SEIU spend last year? Or over the last decade. How much has the State teachers unions spent to further their goals. This story was so one sided, it does not give any perspective on 1the amounts spoken about. I'd be willing to bet that SEIU spent more than 192k on elections last year.
Dirty Dog Dems

Westerville, OH

#15 Dec 19, 2010
Columbus IT Worker wrote:
Watch This, Unions have been spending millions in elections for years. They have outspent corporations in elections year in year out even before the Citizens United Lawsuit. We currently have a POTUS that pretends to care yet does nothing to help get America out of this recession. In fact his own advisor said "never let a good crisis go to waste" Is that the type of person that has the best interests of the country at heart of one that just wants more power. The Dems got the majority of the political donations from Wall Street the last two election cycles. BP was one of Obama's biggest donors.
You say Unions get their money from their members yet you list the Chamber of Commerce as one of the ones that can outspend them. Yet, they too only get money from their members and their members unlike your unions can't dictate to their members what dues will be, nor force them into membership. Business join the Chamber out of thier own free will. Union members are not given that, and if Card Check had been passed, they wouldn't even get the option for free elections on whether to unionize. As for the rising tides, I'd rather be in a country that allows you to get rich, like a Zuckerburg, then a country that dictates you only have the ability to make a set rate that is barely above poverty, like Cuba.
Unions cause much more greater problems in elections than do corporations. If you look at ACORN, SEIU and the unions they expect a big payback and are arrogant to state that point right up front.
Most union member have little if any knowledge or say about where their union money is going. When people like Andy Stern from SEIU and Richard Trumpka from AFL CIO publically state they want socialist style worker agendas, that is a huge problem.
American does not need to be part of the new world economy that the unions want to do.
Conservatives Lie

Columbus, OH

#16 Dec 19, 2010
Typical CRAP response! You try to compare carrots (unions, made up of THOUSANDS of individuals) to Cadillacs (Individuals DONATING more than 97 percent of what most Americans make in a year!)

Yes, I am advocating violence and mob rule to reign in the ruling class! the Millions should not dance to the tune of the dirty Baker's dozen! It is UnAmerican, and I am sick of you and others here supporting such arrogant Aristocracy! Death to you, and those you support!
Columbus IT Worker

New Albany, OH

#17 Dec 19, 2010
Conservatives Lie wrote:
Typical CRAP response! You try to compare carrots (unions, made up of THOUSANDS of individuals) to Cadillacs (Individuals DONATING more than 97 percent of what most Americans make in a year!)
Yes, I am advocating violence and mob rule to reign in the ruling class! the Millions should not dance to the tune of the dirty Baker's dozen! It is UnAmerican, and I am sick of you and others here supporting such arrogant Aristocracy! Death to you, and those you support!
Here I thought you were for the people, but then again, Stalin was for the people, Mao was for the people, and both called for and used violence to rule in the so called rulling class to install themselves as rulers. So then maybe you are for the people. If memory serves correctly, they also sent those that disagreed with them off to gulags for re-education.
BTW.. tell me do Unions poll their membership on who to donate money too? Or do the leaders like Andy Stern determine that for them? Do people get the right to not join the union, or are they forced to join and pay thier dues for political purposes, unless you sign a waiver form that needs to be renewed each year in Ohio to not have your dues go to politics, but you still don't get less withheld from your check, it is used to offset other money used for politics.
Real Patriot

Mount Vernon, OH

#18 Dec 19, 2010
The only jobs the rich create are for Republicans politicans who work to keep them rich.
Real Patriot

Mount Vernon, OH

#19 Dec 19, 2010
Columbus IT Worker wrote:
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Here I thought you were for the people, but then again, Stalin was for the people, Mao was for the people, and both called for and used violence to rule in the so called rulling class to install themselves as rulers. So then maybe you are for the people. If memory serves correctly, they also sent those that disagreed with them off to gulags for re-education.
BTW.. tell me do Unions poll their membership on who to donate money too? Or do the leaders like Andy Stern determine that for them? Do people get the right to not join the union, or are they forced to join and pay thier dues for political purposes, unless you sign a waiver form that needs to be renewed each year in Ohio to not have your dues go to politics, but you still don't get less withheld from your check, it is used to offset other money used for politics.
You are an IT worker and you don't know how to use a search engine to answer basic questions? If I were your boss, I would fire you. If you were in a union, you could file a grievance against your firing. See how unions help keep you employed?
U R The New3rdWorldRight

Columbus, OH

#20 Dec 19, 2010
A wise man once warned "Beware of the military-industrial complex" for good reason.

Today he'd have to include nutcase media and nutcase big money.
Real Patriot

Mount Vernon, OH

#22 Dec 19, 2010
Columbus IT Worker wrote:
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And Leftist like you say the Conservatives are the ones filled with Hate? Here you are advocating violence and murder just because someone disagrees with your veiwpoint?
So just some fact based questions for you in return, not hate filled vitriol like you gave me.
Which though comes first, the donations or the mindset? Meaning, do politicians change from being in support of lower business taxes, lower estate taxes based on political contributions or do people donate to those politicians that already support those items? Do union donations cause politicians to support Card Check? Or do unions give money to elect politicians already in favor of Card Check? It works both ways.
So 13 families spent 192K per year in political donations. How much did SEIU spend last year? Or over the last decade. How much has the State teachers unions spent to further their goals. This story was so one sided, it does not give any perspective on 1the amounts spoken about. I'd be willing to bet that SEIU spent more than 192k on elections last year.
Are you saying that 13 families should have a voice equal to thousands if not millions of union workers? That SEIU is somehow bad because they collectively advocate for the workers, to make many lives better, not to enrich a few, and you don't question the millions Rupard Murdoch gave to help elect John Kasich?

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