White House ramps up gun violence dis...

White House ramps up gun violence discussions before end of month deadline

There are 52 comments on the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal story from Jan 8, 2013, titled White House ramps up gun violence discussions before end of month deadline. In it, Lubbock Avalanche-Journal reports that:

Facing an end-of-the-month deadline, the Obama administration is calling gun owner groups, victims' organizations and representatives from the video-game industry to the White House this week for discussions on potential policy proposals for curbing gun violence.

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Tacoma

Tacoma, WA

#45 Jan 11, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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The liberals have wanted the public disarmed for decades, it seems that they only just recently have gotten ballsy enough to try it. If they can install a non-citizen in the highest position in the country, why not step all over the constitutional right to bear arms? None of this surprises me, this country has fallen more in the past 4 years than in an entire century, thanks to the libtards.
Ridiculous
American Gun Junkies

Winnipeg, Canada

#46 Jan 11, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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That is interesting. The prescribed meds situation is at an all time high. Our state has enacted a law that if you are driving while under these medications you are cited for DUI. Makes sense since it alters mental patterns. This is definitely and agenda by the left to have ammunition for disarmament of the populace, much like the Manchurian Candidate. Use an already troubled individual, medicate them and allow them access to firearms; get a beer and sit back and watch the fireworks. Disgusting! Our politicians are our own worst enemies.
Right on!
Tacoma

Tacoma, WA

#47 Jan 11, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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The liberals have wanted the public disarmed for decades, it seems that they only just recently have gotten ballsy enough to try it. If they can install a non-citizen in the highest position in the country, why not step all over the constitutional right to bear arms? None of this surprises me, this country has fallen more in the past 4 years than in an entire century, thanks to the libtards.
If Noveske had been wearing a seat belt he might be alive. Did Obama or a liberal make him neglect to wear his safety restraint?

http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/135755359...

Monday, January 7, 2013

John Noveske Killed in Car Crash

Oregon State Police (OSP) Sergeant Tyler Lee reports that on January 4, 2013 at approximately 9:13 p.m., a 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser driven by John Noveske, age 36, from Grants Pass, was westbound on Highway 260 near El Camino Way. As the vehicle negotiated a right curve, it traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected.

Noveske, who is the owner of a local rifle manufacturing company, was not using safety restraints and was pronounced deceased at the scene.
Erwin Rommel

Oscoda, MI

#48 Jan 11, 2013
American Gun Junkies wrote:
<quoted text> The topic is USA gun violence, not pills or firearms confiscated at ther border, unless you mean guns coming from gun crazed USA into Canada. Time for you bozo's to clean up your dysfuntional country.
Why can we not talk about your great laws that work so well? Go to Border stats and look, sorry but i know because i have busted enough of your loser countrymen trying to bring Dope, Firearms and the most funny, Illegal aliens into our great country from that dump you refer to as a country, yes the one that shows no respect when it visits other countries....
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#49 Jan 12, 2013
American Gun Junkies wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks for the nonsense response, not a word of truth in it.
Every bit of it is true and you could not debunk any of it or you would have posted that. So march on in your ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_Uni...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada
Erwin Rommel

Oscoda, MI

#50 Jan 12, 2013
Robert wrote:
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Every bit of it is true and you could not debunk any of it or you would have posted that. So march on in your ignorance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_Uni...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada
Thank you! I wanted to post but after working 30yrs at a border bridge, i have seen it all......
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#51 Jan 12, 2013
American Gun Junkies wrote:
<quoted text> Do you really think you will get fair warning someone is going to shoot you? I the theater shooting last year, if everyone in that theater was armed in the dark and smoke, and every one pull out their gun and shot where they thought the shooter was, how many would have died? Its your belief system that allows these suicidal vaccine damage men to get access to numerous guns and thousands of rounds of amunition. DUH!
He probably would have got 2 or 3 up front before he started taking fire. These people are cowards and don't hold up well when people can push back.
Village Mystery

Owens Cross Roads, AL

#52 Jan 12, 2013
"Victims" have their own lobbying group. I suppose it shouldn't be insulting to comment on how utterly pathetic that is because well - that is the point right?

"Victim mentality" is a real disorder yet America should let this abnormal worldview hold sway over our laws?

Americans and their identity politics. Well if someone can't be black, hispanic, female, or gay I guess they can at least get shot to get a seat at the VIP table.
Village Mystery

Owens Cross Roads, AL

#53 Jan 12, 2013
American Gun Junkies wrote:
<quoted text> Do you really think you will get fair warning someone is going to shoot you? I the theater shooting last year, if everyone in that theater was armed in the dark and smoke, and every one pull out their gun and shot where they thought the shooter was, how many would have died? Its your belief system that allows these suicidal vaccine damage men to get access to numerous guns and thousands of rounds of amunition. DUH!
Duh is right. You provide a completely different scenario regarding the movie-goers but leave all other variables the same......which is beyond ignorant.

If the audience was as you describe the culture of that town would have been starkly different dumbass. A local armed populace would be something VERY apparent and that you believe this guy would have acted in the exact same manner only reveals how limited your thinking skills are.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#54 Jan 14, 2013
American Gun Junkies wrote:
<quoted text> Do you really think you will get fair warning someone is going to shoot you? I the theater shooting last year, if everyone in that theater was armed in the dark and smoke, and every one pull out their gun and shot where they thought the shooter was, how many would have died? Its your belief system that allows these suicidal vaccine damage men to get access to numerous guns and thousands of rounds of amunition. DUH!
Wrong, it's the gun-free zones where these shootings are taking place. Public areas that are deemed by the owner operators as places where you can't legally carry under their "laws and rules". Schools, churches, shopping malls, theaters all fall under this "private jurisdiction". I do not abide by the rules these groups enact since I have a conceal permit. Nor do I frequent places that institute these unconstitutional rules that regulate my right to defend myself. Watch your back people, society has never been safe and never will be, even if it is disarmed.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#55 Jan 14, 2013
Tacoma wrote:
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If Noveske had been wearing a seat belt he might be alive. Did Obama or a liberal make him neglect to wear his safety restraint?
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/135755359...
Monday, January 7, 2013
John Noveske Killed in Car Crash
Oregon State Police (OSP) Sergeant Tyler Lee reports that on January 4, 2013 at approximately 9:13 p.m., a 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser driven by John Noveske, age 36, from Grants Pass, was westbound on Highway 260 near El Camino Way. As the vehicle negotiated a right curve, it traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected.
Noveske, who is the owner of a local rifle manufacturing company, was not using safety restraints and was pronounced deceased at the scene.
That's the "story"......
CBOW

Dover, PA

#57 Jan 15, 2013
The conservative discord in the wake of the Newtown, Conn. massacre went up another octave on Monday when Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) threatened to file articles of impeachment if President Obama uses an executive order to try to reduce gun violence.

“The White House’s recent announcement they will use executive orders and executive actions to infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms is an unconstitutional and unconscionable attack on the very founding principles of this republic,” Stockman said in a statement.“I will seek to thwart this action by any means necessary, including but not limited to eliminating funding for implementation, defunding the White House, and even filing articles of impeachment.”

Last week, Vice President Joe Biden reiterated the White House’s determination to see something done about gun violence following the Newtown shooting by confirming the White House is considering using executive orders. Obama also said he’s on board with the idea at his press conference Monday.

“I’m confident that there are some steps that we can take that don’t require legislation and that are within my authority as President,” he said.“And where you get a step that has the opportunity to reduce the possibility of gun violence then I want to go ahead and take it.”

Mother Jones reported 14 actions the White House could take related to guns without Congress. None affect the possession of any kind of firearm or ammunition currently allowed by law. Obama specifically mentioned “how we are gathering data, for example, on guns that fall into the hands of criminals, and how we track that more effectively,” when asked about executive orders during the presser.

Nevertheless, the news the White House is considering executive orders has raged through the gun rights community and conservative politics. Last week, a Tennessee firearms instructor lost his handgun carry permit after he threatened to “start killing people” if the White House took executive action.

Additionally, a South Carolina Republican congressman said any executive order about guns smacks of “tyranny”

Stockman joined those ranks Monday, issuing his impeachment threat with the image of flag from the Texas revolution favored by gun rights supporters for its image of a cannon and the words “come and take it.” Like many in the doomsday prepper end of the gun rights community, Stockman sees the possession of firearms as the only protection against a rogue government. He called the talk of executive order “an existential threat to this nation.”

“The President’s actions are not just an attack on the Constitution and a violation of his sworn oath of office - they are a direct attack on Americans that place all of us in danger,” Stockman said in the statement.“If the President is allowed to suspend constitutional rights on his own personal whims, our free republic has effectively ceased to exist.”

That is exactly what needs to happen.....

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