Adam Lanza toxicology results , why a...
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#88 Jan 16, 2013
Dear Very true,

I dont epectthe tox reports..(allegedly, if there are no charges filed in any case, then the records are sealed....) sadly these cases end up with no charges because the shooter/perp is dead..

If we dont all open our eyes, the drus will continue to be given out more and more, and these heinous acts will predictably become worse.

The media is ignoring prescriptionj meds and for some reason many people like to rely on the media to do their thinking...

Im not sure why most average pope dont already knwo wat caused it...

One would tink most average pople would be able to plug in a coup-le of words into google where they would have many choices of informative reading... all they need to do is plug in antidepressant black box warning ...they will see why Newtown happened and it has nothing to do with video games or guns..
Ohiomom

Orange, VA

#89 Jan 16, 2013
AGREE wrote:
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Yes, Remeron, I agree, and will sign this petition.
My sister was diagnosed with slight depression after our mother died. She was put on Neurontin which only exacerbated the condition. Three months later, she was totally drugged out and suicidal while on the Neurontin. Next they added two more psychotropic drugs, Abilify and Zyprexa, because they then claimed she was suffering from severe 'manic-depression'. She became a zombie. She developed nervous ticks and bizarre gestures. The psychiatric medications made her alternate between sleeping 15-20 hours at one time or crying inconsolably all day and night. She was a fine Christian lady but began saying the devil was living inside her head. She gained 75 pounds within 6 months, finally becoming both suicidal and homicidal. She never drank alcohol or ingested street drugs or other pharmacological medications. We simply didn't understand that the psychiatric drugs were exactly what was causing her to go from being slightly depressed over the loss of our mother to the totally mentally and physically incapacitated person she became after a year and a half of psychiatric treatment with these powerful cocktails. Eventually, she sued the manufacturer of Zyrexa and was awarded a substantial settlement. Although the settlement was large, it will never compensate for what she endured due to taking those poisonous chemicals.
Sue the pharmaceutical industry for every single drug they prescribe which causes all these horrible side effects that damage your organs, thereby shortening your lifespan while destroying your capacity to think rationally. There are myriad law firms online which specialize in assessing your case and bringing your matter to a successful conclusion. Litigation is the only way to hold the FDA and pharmaceutical companies accountable.
All the Sandy Hook victims' loved ones should make sure their attorneys receive Lanza's toxicology report as soon as possible.
Wow Neurontin did this too her? I was on Neurontin but it was for my legs having nervous twitches, not restless leg, and I am thankful it never done this to me. I was changed over to Gabapentin due to insurance. I just never thought of Neurontin being used to help with depression. Thanks for the heads up on this drug.
Paxil

Saint Petersburg, FL

#90 Jan 16, 2013
Why are we still waiting to know if the shooter was on drugs ?

The T.V won't shut up abut this story so at least report SOMETHING !

WAS THE SHOOTER ON DRUGS. IF SO what drugs ?
Risperdal

Saint Petersburg, FL

#91 Jan 17, 2013
Paxil wrote:
Why are we still waiting to know if the shooter was on drugs ?
The T.V won't shut up abut this story so at least report SOMETHING !
WAS THE SHOOTER ON DRUGS. IF SO what drugs ?
we petition the obama administration to:to release the toxicology report of Newton, CT shooter Adam Lanza to reveal what drugs were in his system on 12-14-2012. http://wh.gov/Umfy
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#92 Jan 17, 2013
Risperdal,

In some research I did, I found out that the only time tox reports (in violent crimes like this one) become public is only if there were charges laid.

If no charges are laid, the reports stay within the "investigation" which is never public, whether it be open or closed.

In further research, I have found that in many violent crimes (many murder suicides) even if it is only 2 people.. we arent told that the shooter/killer was on meds..

The only time we hear about it is if the (killers) family speaks out on their own.

It seems that even if a family wants to tell the media that the killer had recently been on meds or had stopped taking them, they cant find a reporter who will air the story.

It dawned on me yesterday that there are likely so many more violent crimes that we read about where we werent even aware psychotropic drugs were involved.

It seems that when we read about so many murder suicides or moms drowning their children, that society writes the killers off to be "mentally ill, or monsters."

Im not saying that monsters dont exist but in too many articles we arent told whether or not antidepressants came into play.

The sad stories that catch my eye are the ones that the killer was described as loving, normal, and non violent... somewhere in the article it may say the killer was depressed.. but it doesnt go on to say that the killer was taking drugs..

This means less and less normal people in society will be able to question these drugs because the side affects are being concealed... how sad
hank hill

New York, NY

#93 Jan 17, 2013
They're never going to release tox results, they wouldn't want to make the drug companies responsible for anything would they? Hell no, this is our "population control" I guess.
Michael Polidori

Yorktown, VA

#94 Jan 17, 2013
anonymousnetruthteller wrote:
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If he wasn't on meds then he would have done it earlier
This guy is obviously a shill for the drug industry... they are everywhere on the internet
Chantix and Zyban have side effects of homicidal or suicidal ideation... they are used for smoking cessation

Chantix (from the manufacuturer - "Some people have had changes in behavior, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions while using CHANTIX to help them quit smoking. Some people had these symptoms when they began taking CHANTIX, and others developed them after several weeks of treatment or after stopping CHANTIX. If you, your family, or caregiver notice agitation, hostility, depression, or changes in behavior, thinking, or mood that are not typical for you, or you develop suicidal thoughts or actions, anxiety, panic, aggression, anger, mania, abnormal sensations, hallucinations, paranoia, or confusion, stop taking CHANTIX and call your doctor right away. Also tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems before taking CHANTIX, as these symptoms may worsen while taking CHANTIX"

Stop your lying "truthteller"... psychiatric drugs are to blame for most of our killings... so is your lying rhetoric
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#95 Jan 17, 2013
In all the violent suicide murders we hear about, less and less even tell us that the perp was taking, or withdrawing from these pyschotropic drugs...

A few years ago there was a fascination with the side effects of these of drugs and the first question reporters would ask families was if there was any person invilved taking psychotropic meds..

Now the journalists dont want to hear it and as soon as someone offers that information theyy change the subject..
I_Dont_understan d

London, KY

#96 Jan 17, 2013
CTM

United States

#97 Jan 17, 2013
Sen. Reid of the House Judiciary Commitee likes Senator Blumenthal enough to have let him sit for him during an illness. Blumenthal was Ct.s Attorney General. During his time as A.G. Blumenthal dismissed many suits of illegal dumping, benefiting only the family that did these crimes. That family grew up in Newtown. Blumenthal has also given his ex law partner 1/4 billion$$ in no bid contracts, overlooked 100 million$ taken from the Teachers Retirement Fund, allowed illegal loans to Enron, signed road contracts that did not go through the 3 bid process and ended up with former Gov. Rowland in jail for accepting bribes.He has worked with St. Sen. John McKinney for 20 years while McKinney has chaired such commitees as appropriations, (how you get money from the state), and the Environmental Commitee, (who says what should be cleaned and prosecuted). Blumenthals father-in-law, Malkin, owns a lot of media and the Empire State Building, so I wouldn't look for the truth to be televised ever. I find it strange that apparently without a whimper these families have gone on an anti-gun tour. These are politicians that are used to getting what they want and damn the constituents, at any cost.
CTM

United States

#98 Jan 17, 2013
These few examples of what goes on in this states leadership makes me question if there are any real Americans left running this country.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#99 Jan 18, 2013
The side affects of psychotropic drugs (suicide and homicide ideation) do not only affect CT. The politics behind it are international where the pharmaceutical companies profit is in the billions from the sale of these drugs.

This sad tragedy is not a "state of CT" problem.

It is a problem affecting every civilized country.

Until people start demanding that the governemt air all toxicology reports in every violent death including suicide, the people will not see the truth that millions of people are being put on these meds, then committing heinous senseless acts of violence which these pill boxes state is a side affect.

This problem of so many violent murders is an epidemic and we keep distarcting ourselves by looking for band aid solutions. like putting away guns.

Instead, we need to discuss what is leading these people and giving them the urge to go out and commit these mass murder suicides.

Again, these problems are not only in CT .. go onto google and input murder and antidepressant and the hits will be one after the other.

Stop beleiving that depression and aspergers are causing these horrendous impulses.

These impuses are all caused by the same thing ..psychotropic drugs.

Start demanding tox reports and medical "treatment" become public.

Are you aware that if no charges get laid, then all medical reports inclu tox reports are kept hidden from society.



Snod

Astoria, NY

#100 Jan 18, 2013
Hunch? Adam had his brother's ID. Fact! Why? Simple. He wanted the authorities to think he was Ryan. Not quite I think. He may have been saying, " I do this because of my brother? " That leads to an envy thing. On the other hand, he may have been saying, " I do this for my brother. " Quite different motive I feel. Adam may have thought he was saving his brother's life? " I am my brother's keeper, " the old adage says. We have been mislead in so many areas concerning the Sandbox 20. God bless those babies. Now you ask why? Shift your thinking slightly. If Adam was always on pharms why didn't he, " snap, " sooner? His father is very powerful. God only knows what, " mobs, " got to Adam since he was estranged from his father? Simply put: he was ordered to kill his mother and people at the school or else, " they "would kill his brother. Whatever drugs he used to help him do that I don't know? Later!
Zyprexa

Saint Petersburg, FL

#101 Jan 18, 2013
And there’s a video here, in which film maker Michael Moore discusses drugs in school shootings.



Also worth a look is http://www.ssristories.com
Snod

United States

#102 Jan 18, 2013
If you want to comment please go to the James Bissett thread-Gilgo killer Aquarium owner who committed suicide. Snod snd I communicate there. Later.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#103 Jan 19, 2013
On account that charges werent laid, the results of the tox reports wont be made public.

The only time tox reports become public record.

This violent tragedy will become less prevelant and it will be forgotten as another one kicks in..

eg. the movie shooting captured attention until the this one came along..

and the issue of psychotropic drugs will remain irrelevant where weapon control will continue being the distraction.

We can stop this by the public demanding to see tox reports in all of these tragedies.

Even in tragedies (like the portland mall shooting) where there havent been allegations of med use...(It seems plausible to suspect that the portland mall shooter was likely on psychotropic meds where he likely didnt tell anyone..)

Speak up and demand tox reports in every murder suicide until the common thread is seen by the general public.

So far it appears that the general population doesnt want to see the truth because so many of us have become hooked on the dream that there is a mircale drug to prevent pain loss and suffering... instead of seeing the reality that these drugs are rampantly causing this ...

Is there a petition to get tox reports on every murder suicide?
guest

United States

#104 Jan 19, 2013
Any closed case is subject to the FOI act. Dash cam videos and audio recordings are fair game as well. If somebody is close enough, go to the agency working the supposed case and fill out the proper FREEDOM OF INFORMATION paperwork.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#105 Jan 20, 2013
Dear Guest,

Criminal investigations (open and closed) do not fall under the Freedom Acts.

The people need to voice that we are demanding these tox reports in all murder suicides as well as violent crimes where the perp died.

If the perp is dead, and no charges are laid the tox reports are not public.

It is only when charges are laid that tox reprts MAY become public record, unless of course a seal is placed (which happens in most cases) where psychotropic meds are found in the system or where med reports say the perp had been taking them prior where it could now be establishedthe perp was withdrawing..
Wormwood

Oneida, TN

#106 Jan 20, 2013
Snod wrote:
Hunch? Adam had his brother's ID. Fact! Why? Simple. He wanted the authorities to think he was Ryan. Not quite I think. He may have been saying, " I do this because of my brother? " That leads to an envy thing. On the other hand, he may have been saying, " I do this for my brother. " Quite different motive I feel. Adam may have thought he was saving his brother's life? " I am my brother's keeper, " the old adage says. We have been mislead in so many areas concerning the Sandbox 20. God bless those babies. Now you ask why? Shift your thinking slightly. If Adam was always on pharms why didn't he, " snap, " sooner? His father is very powerful. God only knows what, " mobs, " got to Adam since he was estranged from his father? Simply put: he was ordered to kill his mother and people at the school or else, " they "would kill his brother. Whatever drugs he used to help him do that I don't know? Later!
I believe that Adam was killed at home along with his mother. Someone grabbed the wrong ID and they also forgot to bring the rifle into the school when they carried his body in. The first responders weren't in on it and responded before the shooters could properly set the scene and get away. One was caught in the woods and another was seen in the helicopter footage of the chase and arrest of the one.

Someone inside the school had reported to first responders that they saw two shadows moving along the school and into the woods, thats why the police began to run to the woods and the helicopter followed the persuit and shot the video. I also don't think 20 children were killed, some obviously had actors for parents. This was to be dramatized and sensationalized for a reason. Just my take on it. Who knows for sure?
Willie

Wesley Chapel, FL

#107 Jan 20, 2013
Because it because he dint take his meds the meds had nothing to do with it. also they have to figure out how to continue to fight for a ban on assault weapons when the rifle was found outside the school and he used handguns inside.

They are not saying anything for a reason.....

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