CNN blaming Adam Lanzas brain Not the...
Lowell

United States

#27 Dec 30, 2012
CTM wrote:
There still is no doctor named, no bottles of pills that were prescribed. No toxicology reports on Adam or his Mom. There is also no mention of a motive yet. It's really looking like the gun control issue, the mental health issue, the drug issue is all to wag the dog. Keep everyones mind off the computer and all the web history that is not being released. Something huge is being hidden in the motive and I bet it's really political.
Adam was on Fanapt according to an uncle.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/12/...
anonymousnetruth teller

United States

#28 Dec 30, 2012
anonymousnetruthteller wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with all but the aspergers if he had cancer you would blame cancer. Yes? Do you even know what aspergers is?
I reread it and I also disagree with blaming all meds
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#29 Dec 30, 2012
CTM,

I cant figure out how you are drawing your conclusions.

Gun packaging does not have a warning that says guns can cause suicidal and homicidal ideation and can cause the person to behave with mayhem disillusioned and outside of reality. Increased violence and aggression.

The prescription mind altering drugs pill box actually says that this all those thimgs can occur.. IT DID!

What more do you need?

Also, if you are waiting for a doctor to be named and Lanza's med records to be put on display, you are going to wait forever.

If you look, you will see that his medical history and chemical treatment regime is being concealed..........

The media has ignored his prescribed meds altogether.. appears that you are doing the same thing...

His family (among others) has already said he was on prescribed meds..The same day..

What more do you need?

So many other shooters med records were sealed.. why do you expect Lanza's to be different?
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#30 Dec 30, 2012
Lowell,

None of the influences you wrote have proven suicidal and homicidal ideation, aggressive behavior, delusional, etc...

the aleged meds that his uncle has said, is the only factor that has scienctifically proven facts that the meds can cause exactly what happened...
nothing else that you cite has the horrible side effect that we sadly saw unfold...
Lowell

United States

#31 Dec 30, 2012
no more drugs wrote:
CTM,
I cant figure out how you are drawing your conclusions.
Gun packaging does not have a warning that says guns can cause suicidal and homicidal ideation and can cause the person to behave with mayhem disillusioned and outside of reality. Increased violence and aggression.
The prescription mind altering drugs pill box actually says that this all those thimgs can occur.. IT DID!
What more do you need?
Also, if you are waiting for a doctor to be named and Lanza's med records to be put on display, you are going to wait forever.
If you look, you will see that his medical history and chemical treatment regime is being concealed..........
The media has ignored his prescribed meds altogether.. appears that you are doing the same thing...
His family (among others) has already said he was on prescribed meds..The same day..
What more do you need?
So many other shooters med records were sealed.. why do you expect Lanza's to be different?
Seems like CTM is running damage control for the drug industry. You are correct in saying the drugs used by these mass killers is NEVER PUBLISHED. Remember the Colo moviehouse killer, read about his shrink. She was punished for overmedicating others but was there EVER a full disclosure as to what drugs he was on?

No NO NO, toxi reports are never released.

Why not?

We hear about every weapon Adam used why not the computer games he used, drugs he was on, mental condition etc.

Anything short of FULL DISCLOSURE is a Government coverup!

So much for "By The People For The People".
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#32 Dec 30, 2012
Lowell,
Oh, we have heard the media distract people with tlk of aspergers... even though aspergers (which is a sdisorder, not mental ilness has no symptoms of homicidal ideation...
In so many of these massacres, the meds are what is in common.. not all these shooters have played the video games..
the writing is on the wall (in the insert black box warning in the pill box)
CTM

United States

#33 Dec 30, 2012
No, I'm not running damage control. I just truly don't see drugs taking a role in this. If it were true it would have been publicized as was with the Colorado shooter. I see the drug, mental health and gun argument doing damage control, or more likely, wagging the dog to get everyones attention off the motive. The broken hard drive was going to the computer forensics lab, which was never named, and they were in the process of getting every shred of computer history for Adam and his Mom. No word on that at all. Knowing how political this community is,(corrupt to Hartford,) I believe the very embarrassing and career ending motive is on that. My other questions are who helped her get the guns, who else was she involved with and which range and with who did she go to?
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#34 Dec 30, 2012
CTM,

It is a little shocking to hear you say that if the drugs were the problem, then we would know about it...

These arent the first kind of drugs that pharmaceutical companies hid bad affects with.Its the almighty dollar that is their motive for hoping this blows over. You do consider that right?

Do you see why the pharmaceutical companies would have a vested interest to ignore this?

Do you realize that the pharmaceutical companies fund the political parties and how they run the governement behind the scenes (via funding?)...

It seems predictable that his hard drive would be filled with evidence showing his suicidal/homicidal ideation that he acted on. Smashing it is consistent with the warnings of the drug.. violent, agressive, delusional, suicidal homicidal..etc..

The prescription meds say that this type of behavior can occur. Im not sure why you have a problem considering this.. its not a secret that meds do this.. its in the warnings.. The pharmaceutical companies have admitted this and have been made to insert black box warnings citing thiese adverse affacts.

Are you doubting that the warning exists?

Also, Im not sure why you are wondering if he was helped in getting the guns???

It has already been stated by many news agencies that she was a collector, and they were all legally registered...

On account that we heard he had gone to a gun shop in the days leading up to this, it is plausible to think they were hidden or locked... Apparently he knew he could get a round it and he did. Maybe the only way was to kill his mother. Maybe when he was fantisizing about doing this, he didnt originally plan on killing his mother too. It may have been the only way he could get the guns. Doesnt sound as if he would stop at anything..

Are you implying someone else was in on this with the shooter? Like another person out there helped him??

It seems so crazy as to why people are still looking for the answer (as to what happened) when the answers are written on this type of prescription pills as adverse side effects...

Oh, its political alright.. How much money would be lost by pharmaceutical companies if these drugs werent going to be doled out anymore? Lets face it ..its their biggest profit maker....anti-dee's

When I hear it said that we would be advised by the pharms/gov if there was something wrong with the drug, well all I can say is please do research yourself and dont depned on the media to keep anyone honest.. especially when they get their paychecks from the pharmaceutical companies..

You will see that the people have been kept in the dark about health risks of many things (tobacco) and why will it ever stop?

You said "you dont see drugs taking a role in this" however the exact same scenario has happened with these massacres all over the world..(other countries have recognized the meds that are affecting the mind to cause this) except not the USA... there are so many similar massacres it is shocking ..

Have you done any research on these mass shootings. They all have one thing in common... prescription drugs.. Its all over the net.. maybe check it out..you will be surprised..



Lowell

United States

#35 Dec 30, 2012
no more drugs wrote:
CTM,
It is a little shocking to hear you say that if the drugs were the problem, then we would know about it...
These arent the first kind of drugs that pharmaceutical companies hid bad affects with.Its the almighty dollar that is their motive for hoping this blows over. You do consider that right?
Do you see why the pharmaceutical companies would have a vested interest to ignore this?
Do you realize that the pharmaceutical companies fund the political parties and how they run the governement behind the scenes (via funding?)...
It seems predictable that his hard drive would be filled with evidence showing his suicidal/homicidal ideation that he acted on. Smashing it is consistent with the warnings of the drug.. violent, agressive, delusional, suicidal homicidal..etc..
The prescription meds say that this type of behavior can occur. Im not sure why you have a problem considering this.. its not a secret that meds do this.. its in the warnings.. The pharmaceutical companies have admitted this and have been made to insert black box warnings citing thiese adverse affacts.
Are you doubting that the warning exists?
Also, Im not sure why you are wondering if he was helped in getting the guns???
It has already been stated by many news agencies that she was a collector, and they were all legally registered...
On account that we heard he had gone to a gun shop in the days leading up to this, it is plausible to think they were hidden or locked... Apparently he knew he could get a round it and he did. Maybe the only way was to kill his mother. Maybe when he was fantisizing about doing this, he didnt originally plan on killing his mother too. It may have been the only way he could get the guns. Doesnt sound as if he would stop at anything..
Are you implying someone else was in on this with the shooter? Like another person out there helped him??
It seems so crazy as to why people are still looking for the answer (as to what happened) when the answers are written on this type of prescription pills as adverse side effects...
Oh, its political alright.. How much money would be lost by pharmaceutical companies if these drugs werent going to be doled out anymore? Lets face it ..its their biggest profit maker....anti-dee's
When I hear it said that we would be advised by the pharms/gov if there was something wrong with the drug, well all I can say is please do research yourself and dont depned on the media to keep anyone honest.. especially when they get their paychecks from the pharmaceutical companies..
You will see that the people have been kept in the dark about health risks of many things (tobacco) and why will it ever stop?
You said "you dont see drugs taking a role in this" however the exact same scenario has happened with these massacres all over the world..(other countries have recognized the meds that are affecting the mind to cause this) except not the USA... there are so many similar massacres it is shocking ..
Have you done any research on these mass shootings. They all have one thing in common... prescription drugs.. Its all over the net.. maybe check it out..you will be surprised..
CTM is a damage control operative OR in denial.

The root cause of the event at Sandhy Hook ES is NOT a gun. This mass murder was caused by Adam Lanza and his frame of mind and not a weapon. Adam's mom exercised very poor judgement when she provided Adam with access to the guns he used. She knew he was beyond hope and headed for institutionalization and she should have eliminated all access to anything dangerous including: weapons, vehicles etc.

Adam's mind was controlled by Fanapt the drug he was taking. If the government doesn't publish reports of what Adam was taking then a reasonable person would conclude the "fix is in".

However the Government is off on a tangant blaming guns.

Only the government can do what they do and get away with it. They own the courts, enforcement, and are owned by the drug industry.
Alex

Pawleys Island, SC

#36 Dec 31, 2012
CTM wrote:
There still is no doctor named, no bottles of pills that were prescribed. No toxicology reports on Adam or his Mom. There is also no mention of a motive yet. It's really looking like the gun control issue, the mental health issue, the drug issue is all to wag the dog. Keep everyones mind off the computer and all the web history that is not being released. Something huge is being hidden in the motive and I bet it's really political.
Adam Lanza had been screwed up on psychiatric drugs for a long time. Ask any victim of the child shrink and kiddy drugging industry what thats like...

As previously reported by The Times, friends of the family said he suffered from Asperger's syndrome, a form of autism. As early as age 10, Adam Lanza was taking medication, according to his former baby sitter, Ryan Kraft, now an aerospace engineer in Hermosa Beach. http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/...
Remeron

Saint Petersburg, FL

#37 Jan 2, 2013
.School Shootings and Psychiatric Drugs .



Psychiatric drugs can increase suicidal thoughts or behaviors in some children, teenagers, and young adults, especially within the first few months of treatment OR when the dose is changed.
aur56

Monett, MO

#38 Jan 2, 2013
He still killed all those people, I don't care about why he did it...I dont care if he had problems,who doesn't? His mother taught him to shoot, gave him access to weapons...
Remeron

Saint Petersburg, FL

#39 Jan 2, 2013
aur56 wrote:
He still killed all those people, I don't care about why he did it...I dont care if he had problems,who doesn't? His mother taught him to shoot, gave him access to weapons...
And let the dirty child drugging industry screw up his mind.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#40 Jan 2, 2013
Aur,

Yes, sadly he did kill. Children and teachers and the woman that gave him his life.

You say you dont care about why he did it..

Wouldnt you agree that if there are precribed drugs be given out hand over fist that knowingly can cause a person to become hellbent on killing others and themselves, that something needs to be done?

Personally, I think I would want to know what person around me is starting or stopping these drugs before I would care if they have a gun collection.

Apparently his own mother didnt know how messed up in the head he was becoming. Do you really think if she knew, that she would have willingly, knowingly allowed her son to kill har along with babies?

On account that she had no idea, I dont see how you can blame her ...

I personally dont like guns but I realize that guns dont cause symptoms of suicide/homicidal idealtion.They have been around forever but these new mass murders have only been happening since these drugs came out.

Are you bothered that the media hasnt addressed anything to do with medication, even though this violent horrebndous act is a publicly known side affect?
Madincanada

Sherwood Park, Canada

#41 Jan 2, 2013
anonymousnetruthteller wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually most psychotropic drugs work well some people have bad reaction to some meds just quit saying all drugs are bad
Most psych drugs do NOT work very well as almost any doctor or psychiatrist will tell you if they are honest. The problem is that the docs all say "we are sorry, the drugs are not great but they are all we have." They need to do more research into finding the cause and cure for mental illness instead of just drugging people. More research needs to be done on nutritional deficiencies which is likely the cause of much mental illness.
Remeron

Saint Petersburg, FL

#42 Jan 2, 2013
SWANSON: Listen, it`s very easy (ph) for both of us. We`re both in the mental health field. We can say that this was clearly some type of mental illness involved or drugs.

PINSKY: Let`s stop there. Hang on a second. I`ve got so much to say today. Please stay with me because I am full. My heart is full tonight, and I`ve got a lot to say. One of them is, I don`t even like to call this one mental illness. I`m normally the guy, and so are you, sitting here with me. We were just here --

SWANSON: Yes. Two nights ago.

PINSKY:-- two nights ago talking about the Oregon shooting, and we were saying, well, there seemed to be a psychotic episode. He was disconnected from reality for whatever period of time, drugs, mania, schizophrenia, something disconnected him. This is not that.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/1...

Drew Pinski drug company sellout. Read the whole CNN transcript link above.
BPT

United States

#43 Jan 2, 2013
Blacks shoot more than this kid did EVERY DAY. You liberals spend all day fighting over the prescription drug issue when savage black ANIMALS are out there roaming free. Focus on controlling Negro reproduction, reinstating slavery, and put a human back in the White House. Use the National Guard to round up the colored for the safety of humanity.
BPT

United States

#44 Jan 2, 2013
Some stinky nigger wrote:
<quoted text>
And let the dirty child drugging industry screw up his mind.
Hmm...
all the rest

Ridgefield, CT

#45 Jan 3, 2013
Drugs are toxins. Just read the PDR and you will see that. They are not something any one "needs"(with the exception of those who have inherited metabolic disorders)If you read the PDR, you will see most drugs are tested on people with liver disorders to provide a baseline as to how fast the liver can break down the toxic drug into a form that the kidneys can excrete in urine. Side effects are also gained from these guinea pigs who sign up to be drug testers. The problem is that these people are usually alcoholic/drug addicted street people with pretty extensive neurological damage due to the buildup of ammonia in their blood/brain from liver damage (and toxin buildup from kidney impairment too). If they freak out and don't show up at the clinic for their next round of meds,they are deleted from the investigation. I also question the ability of these people to list side effects when they are also under the effects of illegal drugs and/or alcohol. Impaired people are usually the last to know they are impaired.I believe this is at the root of the problem of adverse drug reactions. Recently it was found that certain foods,like grapefruit, can greatly increase the amount of drugs that enter your system from your gut. Ibuprofen can clog your nephrons in your kidneys causing a toxic buildup to occur too. Synergistic effects of chemicals in your blood-drugs, pollutants(on average, over 100+ in your blood), foods are mostly untested.One chemical combination I read about made a cancer causing chemical 3000 times more cancer causing in combination than either pollutant was alone! Other common pollutants can damage the blood brain barrier so chemicals or diseases readily enter the brain when they should have been left outside. I recently read of drug companies experimenting with such toxins to help "deliver" their drugs to the brain more effectively. Its more likely that people with mental or emotional disorders need a stronger blood brain barrier and less toxins built up in their brain so they can think/process more clearly then that someone should add in more toxins!-But there is more money to be made in misery than in health. Remember-we have created the "health care" industry.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#46 Jan 3, 2013
ALL THE REST,

I am wondering how you have formed the opinion that most people who take the psychotropic drugs, are ilegal drug users and alcholics??????????

WOW!
thats almost funny....how many junkies do you think go to the docs (especially to get on head pills)

How many alcoholics go to the docs to get on head pills?

The majority of people who take these pills need to be seen by their doctor, and likely have a drug plan... How many alcholics and druggies have docs and drug plans?

Also, liver problems can be genetic where alchohol was never in the equasion....

How many guinea pigs do you know of that are probably junkies or alcoholics..

guinea pigs do not lie, neither do monkeys.. there are many studies available on the net that prove these side effects are real, not to mention (normal people)

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