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Maxamillion

Saint Paul, MN

#2729 Feb 5, 2013
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........I never said he was a great President, I said he was the last REAL one. One that had the interests of the American people at heart. Without a doubt EVERY single President after him has had their pocket and their friends profit margin at the forefront of their true agenda. Yes there were some blunders that the media put in the forefront. Probably paving the way for "Ray-Gun".
And Ray-Gun single handedly tore down the Berlin wall.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#2731 Feb 5, 2013
ga_patriot wrote:
<quoted text>The house blocked the bill,that is what they were elected to do.Who were they going to call them out to...the liberal we love oblunder media. I bet you have many "teabags" resting on your chin. I'm sure one day you will have oblunders there...you will have to get in line behind chris mathews and ed shultz.
Expose the crap to Rannity and Limbaughtomy.

What the problem?

Was the crap in the bill was inserted by teabaggers?

Not surprising.

McTurtle even filibustered his own bill.

Parliamentary procedure is as baffling and dull to most people as it is important to our legislative process. But the Senate gave us a very watchable — interesting, even — little civics lesson on Thursday, when Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) FILIBUSTERED a bill HE had INTRODUCED only hours earlier. The bill at hand was a measure proposed by the White House, based on a "last-choice," one-off fix McConnell himself came up with in the 2011 debt-ceiling standoff, to take America's borrowing limit out of Congress' hands — the president could raise the debt ceiling, and Congress could override him only with a veto-proof majority. McConnell introduced the bill to show that President Obama doesn't have the votes for such a measure even in the Democrat-controlled Senate.

No one wants to know how many ball sacks you have had on your chin.

T.M.I.

Poor teabagger.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#2732 Feb 5, 2013
Libs suck wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor gay wally.
In typical lib fashion you show just how much of a hypocritical dumb ass you truly are.
Hypocritical?

You're the one who consider teabaggers, homo's.

If that's what you consider yourself, you can add DUMSHIT.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#2733 Feb 5, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone that doesn’t agree with you is labeled a teabagger. Does that mean when your boyfriend won't give you head you call him a teabagger. But, wouldn’t he be a teabagger when it does?
No, just most of the repackaged republicans, claiming to be "conservatives".

That would be YOU.

Again, no one wants to read about your sexual exploits.

Your boyfriend won't give you head, big deal.

Go find one that will.

But don't whine about it on here, whine to your boyfriend.

Poor teabagger.
CTM

Sandy Hook, CT

#2734 Feb 5, 2013
Maxamillion wrote:
<quoted text>
And Ray-Gun single handedly tore down the Berlin wall.
....... You and Basara need to learn to read. Carter was the last one that gave a sh!t about this country before his interests. Never said Ray-Gun tore down the wall, much less alone. He paved the way through Star Wars for the defense contractors to start making a few more billions$$.
Maxamillion

Saint Paul, MN

#2735 Feb 5, 2013
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>....... You and Basara need to learn to read. Carter was the last one that gave a sh!t about this country before his interests. Never said Ray-Gun tore down the wall, much less alone. He paved the way through Star Wars for the defense contractors to start making a few more billions$$.
Read about how the wall came down.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2736 Feb 6, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
No, just most of the repackaged republicans, claiming to be "conservatives".
That would be YOU.
Again, no one wants to read about your sexual exploits.
Your boyfriend won't give you head, big deal.
Go find one that will.
But don't whine about it on here, whine to your boyfriend.
Poor teabagger.
I’ve not claimed to be conservative or liberal. I’ll admit the liberals annoy me much more than the conservatives.

Where have I mentioned any sexual exploit? You’re the fool which continues to use the term teabagger.

Once again you label someone a teabagger because they disagree with you. Your life must really suck and be filled with teabaggers. Is your mommy a teabagger too?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#2737 Feb 6, 2013
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>....... You and Basara need to learn to read. Carter was the last one that gave a sh!t about this country before his interests. Never said Ray-Gun tore down the wall, much less alone. He paved the way through Star Wars for the defense contractors to start making a few more billions$$.
I’ll agree Carter cared. Carter is a genuinely good man. Was a horrible president.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#2738 Feb 6, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
I’ll agree Carter cared. Carter is a genuinely good man. Was a horrible president.
Federal Reserve Policy is what hurt Carter and the Economy which Paul Volcker the Federal Reserve Chairman under Carter said he cost Carter Re-election. It was also Jimmy Carter that issued an executive order to end price controls on oil too.

Executive Order 12153 - Price Controls on Heavy Crude Oil
August 17, 1979

DECONTROL OF HEAVY OIL

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php...
Barry O

Chicago, IL

#2739 Feb 6, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Federal Reserve Policy is what hurt Carter and the Economy which Paul Volcker the Federal Reserve Chairman under Carter said he cost Carter Re-election. It was also Jimmy Carter that issued an executive order to end price controls on oil too.
Executive Order 12153 - Price Controls on Heavy Crude Oil
August 17, 1979
DECONTROL OF HEAVY OIL
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php...
I remember the 80 election and to my best recollection it was Carter's weak response and failed rescue attempt in Iran that cost him the election. Plus, Reagan was a helluva of a better speaker than Carter.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#2741 Feb 6, 2013
Barry O wrote:
<quoted text>
I remember the 80 election and to my best recollection it was Carter's weak response and failed rescue attempt in Iran that cost him the election. Plus, Reagan was a helluva of a better speaker than Carter.
Weak response?
Two of the eight helicopters developed problems on the way to a remote desert landing spot and had to turn back; a third had a hydraulic problem after landing. Carter canceled the mission but during the withdrawal, a helicopter collided with a C-130 transport plane, resulting in eight deaths. Clearly a strange series of mishaps, almost completely unpredictable, the rescue operation should have worked, the men were well trained, planning was careful and no Iranian alarm was raised until at least two hours after U.S. crews had left Iran.
Jimmy Carter was right in seeking to raise the fleet auto mileage standard to 48 miles per gallon by 1995.(Even U.S. automakers admitted at the time that they could easily achieve 30 mph by 1985.)
Jimmy Carter was right in exhorting Americans to turn down their thermostats, even if he did look nerdy in a cardigan while urging us to do so.
In his July 1979 speech, he was right when he said,“I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 — never.” That worthy goal quickly went by the board.
He was right to encourage fuel conservation by proposing a 50-cents-per-gallon tax on gasoline and a fee on imported oil — in effect, a floor for fuel prices.
Invoking the pioneering spirit of the 1960s’ moon mission, he was right to recommend a tax on windfall oil profits to finance a crash program to develop affordable synthetic fuels.
Jimmy Carter was correct, too, in setting a goal of obtaining 20 percent of our energy from solar power by the year 2000.
We balked, and his energy program, which was new and demanding, shriveled up and died. When oil prices began declining in the 1980s, the justification for change vanished altogether. The Reagan administration junked the proposed 1995 mileage standard and the rest of the Carter agenda.
Amazingly, amid today’s record gasoline prices, Congress even now doesn’t quite get it.
It turns out that Carter was right after all.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2742 Feb 6, 2013
The Family Research Council (FRC) is an American conservative Christian group and lobbying organization formed in the United States in 1981 by James Dobson. It was incorporated in 1983.[2] In the late 1980s, the FRC officially became a division of Dobson's main organization, Focus on the Family, but after an administrative separation, the FRC became an independent entity in 1992. Tony Perkins is the current president.

The FRC promotes what it considers to be traditional family values, by advocating and lobbying for socially conservative policies. It opposes and lobbies against LGBT rights (such as same-sex marriage and LGBT adoption), abortion, divorce, embryonic stem-cell research, and pornography. The FRC is affiliated with a 501(c)(4) lobbying PAC known as FRC Action.[3] In 2010, the Southern Poverty Law Center classified the FRC as an anti-gay hate group, a designation which has caused controversy.

In 1996, while managing the U.S. Senate campaign of Woody Jenkins against Mary Landrieu, Perkins paid $82,500 to use the mailing list of former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.[24] The campaign was fined $3,000 for filing false disclosure forms in a bid to hide the payment to Duke.[25] Perkins has stated he did not know about the mailing list's connection to Duke.[24]

On May 17, 2001, Perkins gave a speech to the Louisiana chapter of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), a white supremacist group that has described black people as a “retrograde species of humanity.”[26] Perkins claimed not to know the group’s ideology at the time, but it had been widely publicized in Louisiana and the nation, just two years earlier. The Duke incident surfaced again in the local press in 2002, when Perkins ran for the Republican nomination for the Senate.[24]

In 2010, the Family Research Council—under Perkins' leadership—was classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center which characterized the group as "a fount of anti-gay propaganda".[27][28] Perkins dismissed the hate group designation as a political attack on the FRC by a "liberal organization" and as part of "the left's smear campaign of conservatives".[28] On December 15, 2010 the FRC ran an open letter advertisement in two Washington, D.C. newspapers disputing the SPLC's action. The letter included the signatures of social conservative politicians including twenty members of the House of Representatives (including then soon-to-be Speaker John Boehner), three U.S. Senators, four state Governors, and one state Attorney General.[29]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2743 Feb 6, 2013
Just one day after the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) disbanded its Public Safety and Elections Task Force that was responsible for model voter ID and "Kill At Will" self-defense legislation like that linked to Trayvon Martin's death, a new organization emerged to carry the torch for the implementation of voter ID laws nationwide.

In an April 18 press release, the innocuous-sounding National Center for Public Policy Research (NCPPR) heralded "the formation of a 'Voter Identification Task Force,' intended to continue the excellent work of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) in promoting measures to enhance integrity in voting." According to NCPPR chair Amy Ridenour, "conservatives will kick up our support for voter integrity programs. We're putting the left on notice: you take out a conservative program operating in one area, we'll kick it up a notch somewhere else. You will not win. We outnumber you and we outthink you, and when you kick up a fuss you inspire us to victory."
Barry O

Chicago, IL

#2744 Feb 6, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Weak response?
Two of the eight helicopters developed problems on the way to a remote desert landing spot and had to turn back; a third had a hydraulic problem after landing. Carter canceled the mission but during the withdrawal, a helicopter collided with a C-130 transport plane, resulting in eight deaths. Clearly a strange series of mishaps, almost completely unpredictable, the rescue operation should have worked, the men were well trained, planning was careful and no Iranian alarm was raised until at least two hours after U.S. crews had left Iran.
Jimmy Carter was right in seeking to raise the fleet auto mileage standard to 48 miles per gallon by 1995.(Even U.S. automakers admitted at the time that they could easily achieve 30 mph by 1985.)
Jimmy Carter was right in exhorting Americans to turn down their thermostats, even if he did look nerdy in a cardigan while urging us to do so.
In his July 1979 speech, he was right when he said,“I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 — never.” That worthy goal quickly went by the board.
He was right to encourage fuel conservation by proposing a 50-cents-per-gallon tax on gasoline and a fee on imported oil — in effect, a floor for fuel prices.
Invoking the pioneering spirit of the 1960s’ moon mission, he was right to recommend a tax on windfall oil profits to finance a crash program to develop affordable synthetic fuels.
Jimmy Carter was correct, too, in setting a goal of obtaining 20 percent of our energy from solar power by the year 2000.
We balked, and his energy program, which was new and demanding, shriveled up and died. When oil prices began declining in the 1980s, the justification for change vanished altogether. The Reagan administration junked the proposed 1995 mileage standard and the rest of the Carter agenda.
Amazingly, amid today’s record gasoline prices, Congress even now doesn’t quite get it.
It turns out that Carter was right after all.
When I speak of the weak response, I am not speaking of the rescue attempt, but Carter's initial response to the crisis. The hostage crisis started in Nov 1979, but the rescue was not attempted till April 1980. The rescue order was purely political due to low ratings Carter was suffering, because of his perceived weak image.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2745 Feb 6, 2013
Marc J. Ambinder of ABC News said about the Council: "The group wants to be the conservative version of the Council on Foreign Relations." The CNP was founded in 1981. Among its founding members were: Tim LaHaye, then the head of the Moral Majority, Nelson Bunker Hunt, T. Cullen Davis, William Cies, and Paul Weyrich.[4]

Members of the CNP have included: General John Singlaub, shipping magnate J. Peter Grace, Edwin J. Feulner Jr of the Heritage Foundation, Rev. Pat Robertson of the Christian Broadcasting Network, Jerry Falwell, Senator Trent Lott, Southern Baptist Convention activists and retired Texas Court of Appeals Judge Paul Pressler, and the Rev. Paige Patterson ,[5] Senator Don Nickles, former United States Attorneys General Ed Meese and John Ashcroft, gun-rights activist Larry Pratt, Col. Oliver North, and philanthropist Else Prince, mother of Erik Prince, the founder of the Blackwater private security firm.[6][7]
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2746 Feb 6, 2013
The Council For National Policy Meets In Minn, Vets Palin
Max Blumenthal print page
Mon Sep 01, 2008 at 02:48:46 AM EST

Last week, while the media focused almost obsessively on the DNC's spectacle in Denver, the country's most influential conservatives met quietly at a hotel in downtown Minneapolis to get to know Sarah Palin. The assembled were members of the Council for National Policy, an ultra-secretive cabal that networks wealthy right-wing donors together with top conservative operatives to plan long-term movement strategy.
CNP members have included Tony Perkins, James Dobson, Grover Norquist, Tim LaHaye and Paul Weyrich. At a secret 2000 meeting of the CNP, George W. Bush promised to nominate only pro-life judges; in 2004, then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist told the group, "The destiny of the nation is on the shoulders of the conservative movement." This year, thanks to Sarah Palin's selection, the movement may have finally aligned itself behind the campaign of John McCain.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/organi...
Barry O

Chicago, IL

#2747 Feb 6, 2013
Oh as far as the meticulous planning for Operation Eagle Claw, Col. Beckwith, who was in charge of the operation stated that was what was wrong with the operation. Unlike the Son Tay raid in North Vietnam, which was almost purely a Army operation, the White House had directed most of the planning and wanted to include all armed forces branches. Typical White House BS we have seen before, read- Somalia Blackhawk Down. Don't listen to the guy on the ground or with the experience, let some Harvard educated pointy head make military call.
End note- Carter screwed up Iran, and 52 Americans were held hostage for over a year.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2748 Feb 6, 2013
Invisible Children Funded By Antigay, Creationist Christian Right
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2749 Feb 6, 2013
Where Those Who Now Run the U.S. Government Came From and Where They Are Taking Us

The Unsuccessful Right-Wing Coup Against a Democratic President

The Wartime Nazi Invasion of Washington You Never Heard About
Graham Crackers and Moon Rise----------The Born-Again ----------Fellowship of the Kingmakers and Assassins
----The Cedars of Arlington----------
Fellowship Foundation Corporate Entities--------Other significant members of the Fellowship are Senators Charles Grassley (R-IA), Pete Domenici (R-NM), Conrad Burns (R-MT), Richard Lugar (R-IN), James Inhofe (R-OK), Bill Nelson (D-FL)(Nelson’s wife Grace serves on the Fellowship Foundation’s Board of Directors), and Rick Santorum (R-PA), Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), and George Allen (R-VA), Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL), Representatives Frank Wolf (R-VA), Tom DeLay (R-TX), Tom Feeney (R-FL), Curt Weldon (R-PA), Jerry Weller (R-IL), and Joseph Pitts (R-PA).

http://www.insider-magazine.com/christianmafi...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#2750 Feb 6, 2013
John Singlaub [CNP Board of Governors 1982-83]. Member of national policy board of the American Freedom Coalition [AFC], a front for Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church.
Daniel O. Graham [CNP Board of Governors 1982-83]. Member of national policy board of AFC.
Mildred Faye Jefferson [CNP Board of Governors 1982-83]. Member of national policy board of AFC.
Sherman Unkefer [CNP Board of Governors 1982-83]. Served as an adviser to Chile's regime under Augusto Pinochet and reportedly worked closely with Chile's secret police organization, DINA.
Hans Sennholz [CNP Board of Governors 1982-83]. A decorated pilot in the Luftwaffe, Adolf Hitler's elite air corps.
Robert Stoddard [CNP Board of Governors 1982-83]. Listed in The Belmont Brotherhood, as Chairman of the Board of the Worcester Telegram and Gazette, whose editors belonged to the local Committee of the CFR. Board of Directors of Willard Garvey's National Center for Privatization.
Larry McDonald [CNP Board of Governors 1982-83]. President of the John Birch Society; Chairman of the Board of Directors of Western Goals Foundation, and served on the Congressional Board of Christian Voice, a front for the Unification Church.
Nelson Bunker Hunt [CNP President 1982-83, Executive Committee 1984-85, 1988]. Knight of the Order of Malta. Member of a racial eugenics organization, the International Association for the Advancement of Eugenics and Ethnology, that was headquartered in Scotland. IAAEE was established in the U.S. by Lord Malcolm Douglas, a member of the British Cliveden Set which supported Hitler during World War II.
Oliver North [CNP Governing Board 1984-85] Formed the Military Assistance Group-Special Operations Group (MAG-SOG), a political murder unit, and participated in Operation Phoenix which killed about 100,000 civilians in Southeast Asia. North received aid from the Unification Church and Knights of Malta for Contra operations in Latin America.
Howard Phillips [CNP Executive Committee 1984-85, 1988] Director of The Conservative Caucus, served on advisory board of the United States Council for World Freedom (USCWF) of the World Anti-Communist League, a multinational network of Nazi war criminals, Latin American death squad leaders and North American neo-fascists. Conservative Caucus board member and funder, Richard Shoff, is a former Grand Kilgrapp of the Indiana Ku Klux Klan.
Major F. Andy Messing, Jr. USAR (Ret.). Former chairman of The Conservative Caucus; Board of USWCF; Director of the National Defense Council Foundation. Collaborated with Linda Guell of CAUSA (a political arm of the Unification Church) and its head, Bo Hi Pak. to provide funds for Oliver North's operation in Latin America.
J. Peter Grace [CNP Board of Governors 1986] Council on Foreign Relations; Head of Order of Knights of Malta in the U.S.; Chairman of W.R. Grace Co which focuses its business activities in Latin America and assisted the Contra operation in Latin America.
William E. Simon [CFR; Knight of Malta]. Secretary of the Treasury under Richard Nixon; Chairman of the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund (NFF), a fundraising organization set up in l985 by the Washington Times, a newspaper owned by the Unification Church. Trustee of the Heritage Foundation. According to Sidney Blumenthal, Simon is or was a member of the CNP.[IRC: Americares]
Frank Shakespeare,[Knight of Malta]. Council U.S. Information Agency director and director of Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, a Nazi front established by Hitler's espionage officer, Reinhard Gehlen. Trustee of the Heritage Foundation.
Dr. Edward Teller [CNP Board of Governors 1982] Council on Foreign Relations. Hungarian-born American physicist who became the http://watch.pair.com/cnp.html

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