Bow Hunting in Huntington State Park ...

Bow Hunting in Huntington State Park has Redding resident conce...

There are 105 comments on the NewsTimes.com story from Oct 27, 2008, titled Bow Hunting in Huntington State Park has Redding resident conce.... In it, NewsTimes.com reports that:

Resident Nancy Jankowski is concerned because the state is allowing bow hunting in Collis P. Huntington State Park, located in Redding, Bethel and Newtown.

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drawster

Manchester, CT

#86 Oct 31, 2008
p.s. your sarcasm/joking detection is way off if you take whats said on bikerag seriously...
whynot

Staffordville, CT

#87 Nov 3, 2008
Cycle Snack wrote:
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You are missing the point. I ride in a State Forest quite a bit and know that I have to take precautions for being there Monday through Saturday. Sunday, I am still cautious, especially after last Sunday - different story.
However, what about all the runners, walkers, mom's and their jogging strollers, families, and people who want to enjoy the outdoors in the only place that didn't allow hunting and then all of a sudden learn that the last safe haven is now destroyed.
That is the issue here. If the deer population is exceeding the limits of the park, then cull the herd in a week. Close the park, get it done quickly, and be done with it. This park is too busy to all of sudden open it to hunting. I know plenty of Bow Hunters and they all stalk their prey but with the concentrations of use in this park and then to allow hunting is absolutely irresponsible on behalf of the state.
There is over 1000 acres of park land in the park. There is room enough for everyone who uses the park whether its for hunting, fishing biking, jogging etc. By the way there are many state parks and land trusts that do not allow hunting so how is this the "only place where you can ride without the worry of hunters". While I agree the park could be shut down for a period of time a week wouldn't be long enough for the reduction in numbers the state is looking for maybe in 3 to 4 weeks. if its bow hunting only. The state is not being irresponsible by allowing dual use of this space. If they weren't notifying all who enter the park that hunting is in progress then I would agree with you. There are plenty of signs up to inform the public.

Since: Oct 08

Newtown, CT

#88 Nov 3, 2008
whynot wrote:
By the way there are many state parks and land trusts that do not allow hunting so how is this the "only place where you can ride without the worry of hunters".
Because it's the only location central to the Danbury area that really accommodates all users. Name me another state park, that is central to Danbury, that has the diversity of activities as Huntington provides? The closest one is Bennett's Pond, but it's open to hunting.

A little further down the road is Devil's Den, not open to biking and maybe not horses (I don't remember).

There is Trout Brook, however, half of the land is open to hunting and it's a bit unnerving to be riding up the trail and finding a hunter outside of the hunting zone.

So tell me, what alternative to Huntington exists?
Tar-Heel

Old Saybrook, CT

#89 Nov 3, 2008
Still explain to me how bowhunting interferes with mountain biking?? I am a mountain biker myself and can't figure it out for the life of me.

Bowhunters set up well off the beaten path, the only time you will see them is in the parking lot or walking on the trail.

Also at Bennetts you have Pine mountain and Hemlock preserves that connect, you can't ride all that land because of a few bowhunters deep in the woods? During the week you are lucky to see one bowhunter. I can see if bikers or hikers were getting shot left and right, but never has an accident happened in this state involving bowhunting, not once.

As you said Huntigton is multi-purpose and the DEP is in charge of maintaining it. So when the forest is being destroyed by deer, they open it for the safest form of hunting and that is bowhunting.

Since: Oct 08

Newtown, CT

#90 Nov 3, 2008
Tar-Heel wrote:
Still explain to me how bowhunting interferes with mountain biking?? I am a mountain biker myself and can't figure it out for the life of me.
Bowhunters set up well off the beaten path, the only time you will see them is in the parking lot or walking on the trail.
I never said it did and in fact I ride knowingly that there are hunters around me. I wear blaze orange Monday through Saturday, a bell on my hydration pack and sleigh bells on my bike. I make my presence known in the forest.

In fact just the other day I encountered a hunter "on the beaten path" actually. He was walking down the fire road of the central route through the forest that I ride in. He wasn't tromping along like you would imagine someone walking back to his vehicle, rather he was hunting. Arrow was notched and he was ready to draw.

My concern is that Huntington is a multi-use area and by adding hunting to the mix is outright irresponsible. If the deer are indeed such a problem then close the park for a week or two and have at it! I have lived in this area for over 10 years and the deer have always been a problem.

What I don't understand is why now? Why open hunting at an area that is probably the most used State Park in the area for hunting? Why take the risk?

If anything, they should limit hunting to the remote sections of the park, say all the land north, east and south of the blue trail. That area is far more remote and used mainly by bikers. The current limit is something like 40 feet short of the ponds? That is where everyone walks. That is what is absurd.
whynot

Staffordville, CT

#91 Nov 4, 2008
Cycle Snack wrote:
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Because it's the only location central to the Danbury area that really accommodates all users. Name me another state park, that is central to Danbury, that has the diversity of activities as Huntington provides? The closest one is Bennett's Pond, but it's open to hunting.
A little further down the road is Devil's Den, not open to biking and maybe not horses (I don't remember).
There is Trout Brook, however, half of the land is open to hunting and it's a bit unnerving to be riding up the trail and finding a hunter outside of the hunting zone.
So tell me, what alternative to Huntington exists?
So your telling me that you can't go to any town parks like Terrywile in Danbury? Every town has town forest lands or town parks that are open to you and have no hunting. This is only a small part of the year were talking about. I still don't understand why you can't share the state park with hunters. My belief is that there are many people who just don't want too which is unfortunate for everyone.

Since: Oct 08

Newtown, CT

#92 Nov 4, 2008
whynot wrote:
So your telling me that you can't go to any town parks like Terrywile in Danbury? Every town has town forest lands or town parks that are open to you and have no hunting. This is only a small part of the year were talking about. I still don't understand why you can't share the state park with hunters. My belief is that there are many people who just don't want too which is unfortunate for everyone.
Why can't there be a State Park in Fairfield county that is not open to hunting? Where mothers can take their kids for a leisurely, midday stroll and not have to worry that there is the possibility of someone hunting nearby? Why entertain the risk?

Why do hunters need access to what was the last state park in the county that didn't allow hunting?

I have been sharing areas with hunters for years and it doesn't bother me that I have to "orange up" and ride with bells, rode that way this morning in fact.

What bothers me is how the DEP can make this decision without public input - it's like they did it on the QT because if they did invite the public for their comment, DEP already knew what the outcome would be.

I can go to Tarrywile but it's not my favorite place to ride but that's besides the point. If the state is going to arbitrarily open hunting in this matter then they should also take the responsibility to mitigate any potential risks.
whynot

Staffordville, CT

#93 Nov 5, 2008
Cycle Snack wrote:
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Why can't there be a State Park in Fairfield county that is not open to hunting? Where mothers can take their kids for a leisurely, midday stroll and not have to worry that there is the possibility of someone hunting nearby? Why entertain the risk?
Why do hunters need access to what was the last state park in the county that didn't allow hunting?
I have been sharing areas with hunters for years and it doesn't bother me that I have to "orange up" and ride with bells, rode that way this morning in fact.
What bothers me is how the DEP can make this decision without public input - it's like they did it on the QT because if they did invite the public for their comment, DEP already knew what the outcome would be.
I can go to Tarrywile but it's not my favorite place to ride but that's besides the point. If the state is going to arbitrarily open hunting in this matter then they should also take the responsibility to mitigate any potential risks.
Oh please let the world stop for moms, kids and your bike riding. You said there was no other places for you to ride and when they are pointed out you still complain. The state DEP has methods they use to determine when a hunt is needed to cull the deer herd in a particular area. If done properly this will only need to be done every few years. If you go to the DEP web site you will see there are other parks which do not allow hunting so your arguement is flawed.
Tar-Heel

Old Saybrook, CT

#94 Nov 5, 2008
"What bothers me is how the DEP can make this decision without public input - it's like they did it on the QT because if they did invite the public for their comment, DEP already knew what the outcome would be."

The DEP does not need a vote to stop the destruction of the forest, does a firefighter need a vote to put out a brush fire?

This was a management decision on the health of the park, not a recreational decision one like "bike riding". Now if the state wanted to open up "hiking" trails to bikers or ban bikes from a park say due to illegal night riding, illegal structures being built, than yes it should be voted on.

The danger aspect is not a issue, stop using it. Mothers and hikers would, and do get injured more from speeding bikers than by any bowhunting. In fact never has there been an injury caused by bowhunting in this states history. Biking is done on public trails open to hikers and mothers, bowhunting is done in wooded sections of the park.

So the good question here is why is mountain biking open in this park if so many issues arise from it? How many complaints did the DEP get from mountain bikers alone this season? I know the illegal night riding was a issue this year and the illegal trick garbage they build is another one..

Since: Oct 08

Newtown, CT

#96 Nov 6, 2008
whynot wrote:
If you go to the DEP web site you will see there are other parks which do not allow hunting so your arguement is flawed.
I don't think so. Show me a 1000+ acre State Park within the boundaries of Fairfield County, or 10 miles from Huntington, that accommodates all effected user groups and hunting is not permitted.
whynot

Staffordville, CT

#97 Nov 6, 2008
Cycle Snack wrote:
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I don't think so. Show me a 1000+ acre State Park within the boundaries of Fairfield County, or 10 miles from Huntington, that accommodates all effected user groups and hunting is not permitted.
So now you need a 1000 acre park to ride in? The bottom line here is this park can and will be used for multiple activities. All activities should and do have equal access. Wearing blaze orange is a minor change to your routine if its too much trouble then I don't know what else to tell you. All people can and will share the park. This is my final post on the subject. Enjoy your biking and the great outdoors.
J-MO

Atlanta, GA

#98 Nov 8, 2008
This whole argument is insane. I am a deer hunter and there is no concern for anyone. When was the last time someone got shot by a bow hunter by mistake????
Deer once shot usually do not move too far (a few hundred yrds at most)from the impact area therefore they should never come in contact or even be seen by anyone else. Hunters know not to set up anywhere near the public as deer are extremely sensitive to noise, scent. Any good hunter knows to be deep in the woods if they want to be where the animals are.
Some of these posts make deer hunting sound like an evil, heartless, needless sport when it is in fact a great way to manage wildlife in a much more humane way the splatter on the roads around the park.
Think about it... How many dead deer do you see around the boundaries of the park that are hit by vehicles?
How many do you see harvested by hunters?

Since: Oct 08

Newtown, CT

#99 Nov 11, 2008
whynot wrote:
So now you need a 1000 acre park to ride in? The bottom line here is this park can and will be used for multiple activities. All activities should and do have equal access. Wearing blaze orange is a minor change to your routine if its too much trouble then I don't know what else to tell you. All people can and will share the park. This is my final post on the subject. Enjoy your biking and the great outdoors.
No, you are missing the point but you don't get it and I understand. There is no point arguing with someone who can't see both sides of the issue.
JAW2

Massapequa Park, NY

#100 Nov 13, 2008
Shes right wrote:
I was there this weekend and not only did I have to deal with the hunters driving vehicles through the trails(!!!) but also had to explain to my children what that loud buzzing sound followed by what sounded like a scream was. Young children should not be exposed to the killing of animals - period. Either shut down the park when people are hunting or dont allow hunting.
Is this not common sense?
Redding - your setting yourself up for a huge lawsuit here when someone gets hurt.
Some people are just darn right stupid!!!! Deer Biologists are paid by the state to impose deer hunting on certain properties that are over run with deer. If some of these deer are not harvested then: THIS CAUSES A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR THE REST OF THE DEER.....THAT IS CALLED CARRYING CAPACITY, A CONCEPT I LEARNED WHEN I WAS IN 6TH GRADE!!!!!!!!!! TOO MANY DEER= STARVING DEER..... I am sure most would rather see a deer die in 20 seconds after an arrow is sent through it, rather than see it starve to death over several months without any food or how about getting hit by a car????????? Many parts of Connecticut are over run by Deer, Bow Hunting needs to be allowed inn many of these state parks.
hunternaturelove r

Piscataway, NJ

#101 Nov 19, 2008
thank god this is america and you have the freedom of speach,i wander what you would think after you are someone you care about gets lime disease,witch hunting helps keep down on car+deer(people+deer)deaths.wi th that said you would like the deer to starve todeath instead?
tcr

Enfield, CT

#102 Dec 4, 2008
Do the people who like the parks and other recreation areas realize that most of the money comes from the taxes that hunters pay, That last year the amount for this was around 721 million dollars, across the nation including CT. For up keep of trails you enjoy and parks and other lands free from developers.With out that they would have to either raise taxes on all to keep them open or close them and not be able to pay for upkeep of trails etc. not just in ct but across the nation. Hunting season in CT is for the most part fro deer from mid Sept. to end of December. You have the rest of the year to enjoy the land with out any concern, Oh wait look out for the bear and moose that are coming back to the state because of conservation efforts that are supported by hunters as well, not just to hunt but bring back animals to the state that have not been here for years. CHeck out he Pittman Robertson act people and learn something. Hunters are just not plain killers.
bottom line

Woodbury, CT

#103 Dec 5, 2008
i try to take a very independent look on this matter, the thing is is that deer hunting doesn't keep the lyme disease under control any more then repellents and checking yourself out when you step out of the woods. However hunting, how it might not be everyone's forte, plays a vital role in keeping our public recreation areas open and running, it at the same time keeps some of the deer population down, but truly it doesn't have as big an impact on overall population as u would think. more deer die through car and winter survival then anything else. the big problem with the population is not so much the car accidents but it is the amount of predetors they allow to survive, the coyote population has skyrocketed for the almost nil existence of farm land Connecticut (back in the 20's) to what is today which is a serious problem. peoples pets r being taken away every night, they instill panic and fear in people (however they are not truly a thret to humans. you can partly thank hunting regulations for this boost in population back around 50 years ago, now nobody really hunts them anymore and they have increased with the deer populations. not to go off into tangents though, deer hunting requires pretty serine and peaceful locations so i don't think you ave to worry about running into a hunter more then once on your favorite jogging trail. And to point out one more KEY IRONY, anybody that live in the surounding area shouldn't feel too bad about deer being killed because they wouldn't be in huntington park if it wasn't for u taking there land and building your homes on it, you think that just because u want to stop hunting you are helping them in some way, well what you really did was prevent food from growing and from shelter from sprouting out of the ground, you robbed them of water, and you coralled those poor creachers into your so called "safe havens" for what? the coyotes know no bounds, they kill as they please, you think the deer know where to go? they try to escape and you run them down with your big mini vans and hybrids, stealing there air and replacing it with smog, and u get out of your car to cry over them as if you feel bad? as if you care? you smother your flowers in replents so the only source of meger compensation you have to give to them is worthless you want to look at the real monster, the real enemy to deer look at yourself
Redding native

United States

#104 Dec 9, 2008
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An inexperienced hunter could cause massive damage to pets and humans alike. If you have a permit you can hunt - there is nothing anywhere that tests the accurrace of a hunter's aim and/or target ability.
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I love the word ignorance in your statement due to the fact that you need to take a safety course and prove your competence with your equipment well before you ever get a hunting permit
Ca mu na t Disorganizer

Trumbull, CT

#105 Dec 9, 2008
I could care less about deer ticks and lyme disease. Deer are grossly over populated and their numbers need to be reduced; 25% of the current herd would be a good start. Hunters are always welcome on my property and I could careless what the anti-hunting zelots think or say; blast away!
Educated

Woodbury, CT

#106 Dec 9, 2008
gyj wrote:
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Oh I see now they are killing deer because of over browsing!! Also I do not feel I should go to walmart and buy an orange BIB so I do not get shot or arrowed. Wake up America what happened to the days that I can take a nice walk in the woods with my family and dogs without being exposed to hunters. Hunting is a sport if no hunting these "killers of wildlife" would have nothing to do. They need to get rid of their aggression so they murder deer which gives them their adrenaline rush, Have to laugh heart attacks are up with hunters! Do not allow hunting in parks and where people like to take walks. You are taking our freedoms away and using scare tactics of Lyme disease THATS A BUNCH OF BULL!! If there was no deer there would be no hunting, then what would these perverts do? Birds and bees I guess are next. OH i guess the adrenaline rush won't be big enough, sorry!!!
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