James R Hoffa JR

Asheboro, NC

#28206 Nov 14, 2012
I'm not playing anymore republicans
Are crazy I have seen what your
trying to do it not cute nor funny
But I'm stupid you think will see
What happens
Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#28208 Nov 14, 2012
Texas and Louisiana citizens began petitions to the White House to peacefully withdraw from the United States and then yesterday that number had grown to nearly forty states. As this happened, the Texas petition topped its goal of 20,000 signatures. I hope the communist minded Traders in Washington realizes that Americans do not want their crap. They will not stand by and let these thieves’ steal from their family’s furfure.
James R Hoffa JR

United States

#28209 Nov 14, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
Texas and Louisiana citizens began petitions to the White House to peacefully withdraw from the United States and then yesterday that number had grown to nearly forty states. As this happened, the Texas petition topped its goal of 20,000 signatures. I hope the communist minded Traders in Washington realizes that Americans do not want their crap. They will not stand by and let these thieves’ steal from their family’s furfure.
you go to
Hell its in Texas and the devil Rick Perry
Is the president
James R Hoffa JR

United States

#28210 Nov 14, 2012
Dick Perry like up the but Perry
He is a guy with a 1 inch pecker
That why he is angry at the country
Thank God there will be a democrat
In there soon
Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#28211 Nov 14, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not even close to what I stated. I stated that the Republican agenda was to discourage minority, student and elderly voting with tactics of voter ID and reducing the voting hours in hopes of these groups not casting a vote for democrats, which by the way, did not work out too well, did it?
I did not see the KKK standing in front of the voting polls only the Black Panthers and Acorn supports. So who was trying to intimidate who? I was not asked to show an ID. I was only asked my name and address. Signed the book and voted. No intimidation.
The only reason for those appose to ID’s were using minority, student and elderly to hide their criminal acts of voter fraud and ballet stuffing to through the election for communist leader Obama?

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#28212 Nov 14, 2012
I am reading and watching the news since the election ended and I am puzzled how so many people can’t see how increasing taxes will hurt the economy.

I continue to hear people say “It won’t kill the country or hurt the rich if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires.”
It is my opinion that our political "leaders" and some on this forum are completely missing the point. It's not that a small increase in taxes on the wealthy would kill the economy. It's that every tax increase hurts the economy.

Aside from the objectionable taking of private property from citizens that rightfully earned it, tax increases make the economy less efficient, reduce the economy's ability to grow and create jobs, and increases the size and power of a government that is already increasingly stifling freedom and the economy.

Maximizing government revenue should not be the goal of our government. Our goal for government is to maximize individual freedom and economic growth. Neither of these goals is achieved by maximizing government revenue.

Our leaders continue to say we have to raise taxes to reduce the deficit. This too is nothing but smoke and mirrors because government doesn’t have a revenue problem, government has a spending problem. We can't fix a spending problem by increasing taxes, and a tax hike in exchange for growing government just a little less quickly won't fix the deficit. Further, increasing taxes will not help the business down the street expand and hire a new employee. It will do precisely the opposite.

When you here conservatives like myself oppose increasing taxes it's not just some political talking point, nor is it out of some irrational concern we have for taxpayers that have more money than we have.

Conservatives oppose tax increases because they're bad for the economy and our economy is bad enough already.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#28213 Nov 14, 2012
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't always the "rich guy winning". But I started with nothing and invested MY money, MY time, MY sacrifices and played within the rules set forth by our government. Now people like me are greedy and evil.
People who do not think to care for the employees that make them rich are just immoral. Many times it is due to greed. One can be rich and treat employees well at the same time. If government regulations are all that give you a guideline of how to treat an employee, then you should realize why government increases regulations. If you and your kind had a decent moral code to start with, their would be no need for the regulations.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#28214 Nov 14, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>I thought that made you a smart guy, that didn't let someone make millions, off your back. You went out and took a chance and made it work. Amazing how that works.
You confuse what we liberals think of rich people. We do not think the rich are all greedy. We think the rich that treat their employees poorly just to make more money are greedy.
If you wish to debate this actual issue, I am up for it. But seems you are just repeating talking points that are just falsehoods.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#28215 Nov 14, 2012
Investor wrote:
<quoted text>I never said democrats weren't rich or buisness owners...Mike, just pointing out the obvious. The moochers almost outnumber the producers already and a majority of the moochers are democrats. If, for easy math, the rich/business owners are split 50/50, if the Repubs disappear, the US would become Greece instantly but if the demos disappear, there would still be more producers than moochers.
Common sense...or thanks to govt education I like to call it uncommon sense.
Clearly you are under the false impression that republicans are not on government help.
Thanks for telling us your perception.
James R Hoffa JR

United States

#28216 Nov 14, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You confuse what we liberals think of rich people. We do not think the rich are all greedy. We think the rich that treat their employees poorly just to make more money are greedy.
If you wish to debate this actual issue, I am up for it. But seems you are just repeating talking points that are just falsehoods.
now that
Was true
James R Hoffa JR

United States

#28217 Nov 14, 2012
Republicans don't know what work
Is they have never seen it get
Your hands dirty one time it
Good for you

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#28218 Nov 14, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>People who do not think to care for the employees that make them rich are just immoral. Many times it is due to greed. One can be rich and treat employees well at the same time. If government regulations are all that give you a guideline of how to treat an employee, then you should realize why government increases regulations. If you and your kind had a decent moral code to start with, their would be no need for the regulations.
More twisted rhetoric from you I see.

No one but you stated that government regulations were a guide to how an employee should be treated.

My employee turnover rate is almost non-existent with the exception of the occasional 20 plus year retiree.

Mike it is quite strange how you have the answers on how to successfully run someone else’s business from a distance with zero investment into said business.

Reminds me of a quote I read some time ago about how someone that thought they knew the answer but had no experience in the subject at hand.“It is easy to plow the fields when your plow is a pencil and you’re a thousand miles from the field”.

Yes, it all looks good on paper and even better when the results don’t directly affect you

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#28219 Nov 14, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>As long as, he pays overtime. No it doesn't make him a "hero". It makes him a businessman with a product that you and I, or the general public, want enough to require him to need employees to work overtime for paycheck they receive, so they can go buy new clothes, shoes,(my fav.) cars, vacations, engagement rings, pay for weddings for daughters, etc...The President has absolute power, is he corrupt?
These republican minded businessmen would not pay overtime unless the government demanded them to do so with regulations. Why? Because some people are just greedy and have a poor moral compass.
If Papa John wants to cut his employees hours so he can save a buck, he has that option. But as with all actions, they may have consequences. The bad PR may cause him to lose more than he would save. But it sounds as if Papa John is just trying to make a statement and could afford the losses. You see, he cares more for the republican agenda than he cares about his employees. That is just poor morals.
Seems like the republican mindset sees no need to have a moral code where business is concerned. I guess the bible did not have a rule about it.
xyz

Gastonia, NC

#28220 Nov 14, 2012
how will anything change when 23 out of 24 incumbents were re-elected?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#28221 Nov 14, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You confuse what we liberals think of rich people. We do not think the rich are all greedy. We think the rich that treat their employees poorly just to make more money are greedy.
If you wish to debate this actual issue, I am up for it. But seems you are just repeating talking points that are just falsehoods.
I think you "liberals" should say not all rich are greedy. I can't remember a post where you differentiate. You lump all into one group, hence my confusion.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#28222 Nov 14, 2012
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
More twisted rhetoric from you I see.
No one but you stated that government regulations were a guide to how an employee should be treated.
My employee turnover rate is almost non-existent with the exception of the occasional 20 plus year retiree.
Mike it is quite strange how you have the answers on how to successfully run someone else’s business from a distance with zero investment into said business.
Reminds me of a quote I read some time ago about how someone that thought they knew the answer but had no experience in the subject at hand.“It is easy to plow the fields when your plow is a pencil and you’re a thousand miles from the field”.
Yes, it all looks good on paper and even better when the results don’t directly affect you
"MY sacrifices and played within the rules set forth by our government. "
While you did not say this was your only guideline, due to yours and all the republican statements here, I deduce your kind sees regulations as all that you use to determine guidelines on how to treat employees for the most part. I hope I am wrong on this, but it just appears this way.

Your team says Papa John has the 'right' to reduce all employees to part time. Yes, this is true, but what just go by what is his 'right'? Why not do what is the right thing to do instead of what is within your 'rights'?

Attacking me on a personal level shows you have no good rebuttal.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#28223 Nov 14, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>I think you "liberals" should say not all rich are greedy. I can't remember a post where you differentiate. You lump all into one group, hence my confusion.
Then you are not reading my posts. I say it quite often. To the point of it being tedious. But you seem to see what you wish to see.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#28224 Nov 14, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>These republican minded businessmen would not pay overtime unless the government demanded them to do so with regulations. Why? Because some people are just greedy and have a poor moral compass.
If Papa John wants to cut his employees hours so he can save a buck, he has that option. But as with all actions, they may have consequences. The bad PR may cause him to lose more than he would save. But it sounds as if Papa John is just trying to make a statement and could afford the losses. You see, he cares more for the republican agenda than he cares about his employees. That is just poor morals.
Seems like the republican mindset sees no need to have a moral code where business is concerned. I guess the bible did not have a rule about it.
People can quit that job and go find another, and yes if an owner of a Papa Johns has to cut hours, to keep from from going bankrupt, there might be consequences. That person probably had that figured out when he decided to own a business. As far as making a statement, if ANY business owner wants to use their business as a political statement, then they own the fallout from that decision.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#28225 Nov 14, 2012
It would be nice if the republikan tooth fairy could just magically erase the national debt by reducing spending. However, that is not realistic for many reasons. One reason is the total misunderstanding of the seriousness of our situation by the public and congressmen so stupid as to not even understand the difference between the deficit and the debt. If we cut the deficit to zero, the national debt would remain at over 16 trillion dollars from now on, with us paying over 40% of our total tax collections for interest only payments on that debt. If we cut out government in its entirety and make the assumption(falsely) that persons and business would continue paying taxes at the present rates, it would take around 27 years to pay off the national debt if all monies were applied to debt service. That would mean 27 years of NO military, NO road maintenance, NO police, NO firemen, NO EMT service, NO health departments, NO environmental controls , NO crime control, NO national guard, NO NOTHING., The debt could be theoretically reduced, but our society would not survive even a year.
Unpleasant as it may be, heretical as it sounds, we have reached the point where our survival demands sacrifice from all. That includes the wealthy. God bless their poor oppressed little hearts.
The Enemy Within wrote:
I am reading and watching the news since the election ended and I am puzzled how so many people can’t see how increasing taxes will hurt the economy.
I continue to hear people say “It won’t kill the country or hurt the rich if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires.”
It is my opinion that our political "leaders" and some on this forum are completely missing the point. It's not that a small increase in taxes on the wealthy would kill the economy. It's that every tax increase hurts the economy.
Aside from the objectionable taking of private property from citizens that rightfully earned it, tax increases make the economy less efficient, reduce the economy's ability to grow and create jobs, and increases the size and power of a government that is already increasingly stifling freedom and the economy.
Maximizing government revenue should not be the goal of our government. Our goal for government is to maximize individual freedom and economic growth. Neither of these goals is achieved by maximizing government revenue.
Our leaders continue to say we have to raise taxes to reduce the deficit. This too is nothing but smoke and mirrors because government doesn’t have a revenue problem, government has a spending problem. We can't fix a spending problem by increasing taxes, and a tax hike in exchange for growing government just a little less quickly won't fix the deficit. Further, increasing taxes will not help the business down the street expand and hire a new employee. It will do precisely the opposite.
When you here conservatives like myself oppose increasing taxes it's not just some political talking point, nor is it out of some irrational concern we have for taxpayers that have more money than we have.
Conservatives oppose tax increases because they're bad for the economy and our economy is bad enough already.

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#28226 Nov 14, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>"MY sacrifices and played within the rules set forth by our government. "
While you did not say this was your only guideline, due to yours and all the republican statements here, I deduce your kind sees regulations as all that you use to determine guidelines on how to treat employees for the most part. I hope I am wrong on this, but it just appears this way.
Your team says Papa John has the 'right' to reduce all employees to part time. Yes, this is true, but what just go by what is his 'right'? Why not do what is the right thing to do instead of what is within your 'rights'?
Attacking me on a personal level shows you have no good rebuttal.
The guidelines I speak of are the tax guidelines. They are totally separate in regards to how an employee is treated.

I know you are fully aware of this but as usual choose to ignore it to make your point.

My extremely low turnover rate speaks to how the employees are taking care of.

Let’s not point fingers at anyone attacking someone else on a personal level. This is something you exceed at on your own quite well.

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