new rules for doctors giving pain med...

new rules for doctors giving pain medication

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john smith

Rutherfordton, NC

#1 Jan 6, 2012
as usual our goverment (state of Tenn) passed a law as of Jan 1st 2012 stoping our Dr's. from giving u pain medication for extended time periods. Granted we have a problem with pain clinics giving handfulls of drugs to anyone that walks in the door. what our represenatives did not realize is that my Dr. that I have went to for years is not the problem. I am a senior that will now have to go to another doctor out of town that could care less about me, and cost my medicare additional money that I dont have nor the goverment. My Dr. is not the problem, for the most part it is the pain clinics, the rule u made will make me go to a pain clinic. make some sense of this for me please
TRY LOVE

Nashville, TN

#2 Jan 6, 2012
None of the bought and paid for lawmakers want to address the real issue.

They want to appear to tough on "drugs" while they CONTINUE TO protect the HUGE profits of their masters !

One Love!
john smith

Lenoir, NC

#3 Jan 6, 2012
I agree, just because they were tons of drugs coming from florida pill mills (and a lot from tennessee too), but for the most part this was a pill mill problem not my family DR's. They did put more rules on pill mills but they will still figure out a way to sell their product. heaven forbid your Dr. of 20 years has to send me to one of these drug pits. please tennessee lawmakers rethink this!!!!!!
surely not

Monterey, TN

#4 Jan 6, 2012
I tell you this much sir,good luck even finding a pain management doctor around this area,especially one that takes Medicare.I have been looking for one for almost 2 years to no avail.I have Medicare as well and can't find one,and I can't afford to shell out 300.00 dollars for a visit,but on a more serious note if you know of one please tell me,,Thank You..

Good Luck...Dandridge Tn.
halleluja

Knoxville, TN

#5 Jan 7, 2012
Finally they did something right in Nashville. The abusers of pain medications will finally have to face the facts and treat their addiction to pain meds. The emergency medical community is tired of having to deal with the problems these drs at pain clinics and those prescribing massive amounts of pills for "back pain". These hardcore narcotics such as the oxycodones and roxicodone, oxymorphone(Opana),Vicadin were all cancer treatment drugs. These highly addictive powerful meds should be prescribed for terminal patients only! They should never be used outside of that parameter unless the patient is an inpatient at a hospital or nursing home receiving aftercare in which a dr feels that the patient needs them. The addicts of these drugs are out stealing to get the money to buy these drugs off the streets, or pretending to be ill, tying up ambulances and ER beds on false calls. EMS workers and ER nurses as well as physicians should be mandated to report such activity if the patient is on Medicare/Medicaid. Sorry, but this one was a good idea. Thank you Tennessee!
john smith

Leesville, SC

#6 Jan 7, 2012
i agree with u halleluja but, im not sure ur family DR. or specialist is the cause, pain clinics are.
TRY LOVE

Nashville, TN

#7 Jan 7, 2012
halleluja wrote:
Finally they did something right in Nashville. The abusers of pain medications will finally have to face the facts and treat their addiction to pain meds. The emergency medical community is tired of having to deal with the problems these drs at pain clinics and those prescribing massive amounts of pills for "back pain". These hardcore narcotics such as the oxycodones and roxicodone, oxymorphone(Opana),Vicadin were all cancer treatment drugs. These highly addictive powerful meds should be prescribed for terminal patients only! They should never be used outside of that parameter unless the patient is an inpatient at a hospital or nursing home receiving aftercare in which a dr feels that the patient needs them. The addicts of these drugs are out stealing to get the money to buy these drugs off the streets, or pretending to be ill, tying up ambulances and ER beds on false calls. EMS workers and ER nurses as well as physicians should be mandated to report such activity if the patient is on Medicare/Medicaid. Sorry, but this one was a good idea. Thank you Tennessee!
"Thanks Tennessee"......that's what every pill dealer that gets their supply out of state is saying!

Now they can sell their pills for $40 a piece instead of $30.

Way to go!

One Love!
America the ugly

United States

#8 Jan 7, 2012
You are correct. Our daugthter who has been on pain meds for years and now they have her on the patches but she is going through with drawals and having a hard time dealing with it, but her problem has always been her over weight by not eating healthy and no exercise to speak of. Our society is going down fast. If obama care goes in you could see millions of the elderly suffer and die because no care for them. It is ok to murder babies now, but it could happen to the elderly if this elite socialist dictator adminstration gets it way.
Don't believe the lies they feed us on.
halleluja wrote:
Finally they did something right in Nashville. The abusers of pain medications will finally have to face the facts and treat their addiction to pain meds. The emergency medical community is tired of having to deal with the problems these drs at pain clinics and those prescribing massive amounts of pills for "back pain". These hardcore narcotics such as the oxycodones and roxicodone, oxymorphone(Opana),Vicadin were all cancer treatment drugs. These highly addictive powerful meds should be prescribed for terminal patients only! They should never be used outside of that parameter unless the patient is an inpatient at a hospital or nursing home receiving aftercare in which a dr feels that the patient needs them. The addicts of these drugs are out stealing to get the money to buy these drugs off the streets, or pretending to be ill, tying up ambulances and ER beds on false calls. EMS workers and ER nurses as well as physicians should be mandated to report such activity if the patient is on Medicare/Medicaid. Sorry, but this one was a good idea. Thank you Tennessee!
halleluja

United States

#9 Jan 7, 2012
Sorry to hear of your daughter's troubles. There are some good people out there willing to help your daughter recover from this addiction and help her with her other problems to make her well physically and mentally, so she becomes whole healthy happy person. Try Love's post is correct, the price in neighboring states of illegal meds may go up, but the only one concerned about that is the abusers. The laws must be made tougher to help stop this chain of destruction. Your little girl is in there somewhere, don't give up on her. And Try Love, same for you, the real you is still inside you, the person you were when you were a kid,when no hill was too high to climb, and no creek too deep to wade, long before all the drugs and abuse and despair. But you can fight back against a little pill and reclaim your mind, body and soul.
TRY LOVE

Nashville, TN

#10 Jan 7, 2012
halleluja wrote:
Sorry to hear of your daughter's troubles. There are some good people out there willing to help your daughter recover from this addiction and help her with her other problems to make her well physically and mentally, so she becomes whole healthy happy person. Try Love's post is correct, the price in neighboring states of illegal meds may go up, but the only one concerned about that is the abusers. The laws must be made tougher to help stop this chain of destruction. Your little girl is in there somewhere, don't give up on her. And Try Love, same for you, the real you is still inside you, the person you were when you were a kid,when no hill was too high to climb, and no creek too deep to wade, long before all the drugs and abuse and despair. But you can fight back against a little pill and reclaim your mind, body and soul.
When the price doubles overnight for something that addicts WILL NOT live without, then the "concern" will be shared by us ALL.

I am all for getting folks over their dependence on drugs, but this law does nothing to accomplish that goal.

One Love!
oh sure

Monterey, TN

#11 Jan 8, 2012
TRY LOVE wrote:
<quoted text>When the price doubles overnight for something that addicts WILL NOT live without, then the "concern" will be shared by us ALL.
I am all for getting folks over their dependence on drugs, but this law does nothing to accomplish that goal.
One Love!
wow..you ever been in real pain?not acute pain either,pain that's there 24/7.If not you don't really understand.And there aren't any pain management doctor's in out area that hardly take insurance,I have been looking for almost 2 years..If you know of one enlighten me please..
ohshutup

Knoxville, TN

#12 Jan 8, 2012
And there aren't any pain management doctor's in out area that hardly take insurance,

This statement has no many double negatives in it there is NO way to understand what you are trying to say.

And they must take something because all the low lifes that visit them regularly aren't paying for it themselves. Hard to pay for something when you have no job.

And I don't believe all the people who cry about how much pain they are in. Buck up and learn to deal with it!
not true

Newport, TN

#13 Jan 8, 2012
I go to a pain management Dr.in Morristown and have for almost 10 yrs. for permanent nerve damage due to back surgeries. I work full time have no insurance and pay cash for office visit and the meds I get. You have to be referred by your family Dr. or a spec. Dr.which I was by both of them. You sign a contract and have random drug test. If you mess up you are kicked out, they go strictly by the law and put up with no bull.They do take insurance I just don't happen to have any it is not offered where I work, but I choose not to sign up for disability even though I could get it when I can work.
john smith

United States

#14 Jan 8, 2012
everybody thinks that everyone that drinks alcohol is an alcoholic and everyone that uses drugs for pain are always wanting more, and stay high all the time.(NOT TRUE) there are responsible and needy adults out there that dont need hassle to be somewhat pain free and live a better life. Dr's know who they are, let them do their job.
please

Monterey, TN

#15 Jan 8, 2012
not true wrote:
I go to a pain management Dr.in Morristown and have for almost 10 yrs. for permanent nerve damage due to back surgeries. I work full time have no insurance and pay cash for office visit and the meds I get. You have to be referred by your family Dr. or a spec. Dr.which I was by both of them. You sign a contract and have random drug test. If you mess up you are kicked out, they go strictly by the law and put up with no bull.They do take insurance I just don't happen to have any it is not offered where I work, but I choose not to sign up for disability even though I could get it when I can work.
Could you please tell me who the doctor or the name of the clinic in Morristown is?I would greatly appreciate it,I have insurance,but like the other poster said..It's hard to find a doctor around this area that takes it..At least that's been my experience.And I assure you I am Legit and just not hunting drugs....Thanks either way.
not true

Newport, TN

#16 Jan 8, 2012
Is Dr.Chavin @ Morristown Pain Consultant, can call an get all the info on what you have to do but do know a Dr. has to refer you, you just can't walk in and make an appt. Like I said he is legit and goes VERY strictly by the law.
not true

Newport, TN

#17 Jan 8, 2012
john smith wrote:
everybody thinks that everyone that drinks alcohol is an alcoholic and everyone that uses drugs for pain are always wanting more, and stay high all the time.(NOT TRUE) there are responsible and needy adults out there that dont need hassle to be somewhat pain free and live a better life. Dr's know who they are, let them do their job.
This is so true, in fact the dosage that I started out on years ago is down to 90% less than then. I have chosen to slowly cut back till maybe one day not have to take any. Is something I have choosen to do on my own. I have never ask for more at any time and at times refused to have them up it or go stronger, at times an asprin can work. In fact they told me they have very few that ask to cut back most want more, and I have never used more than I am suppose to, I usually have more left over each month than I am suppose to. I have never been high on any of my meds. as was explained to me by them if taken as they say and taken for legit pain it will do it's job and will control the pain and you will not get high or a buzz as the druggies do.And trust me they can tell if you are really in need of the meds or just drug seeking.
john smith

United States

#18 Jan 8, 2012
not true wrote:
<quoted text>
This is so true, in fact the dosage that I started out on years ago is down to 90% less than then. I have chosen to slowly cut back till maybe one day not have to take any. Is something I have choosen to do on my own. I have never ask for more at any time and at times refused to have them up it or go stronger, at times an asprin can work. In fact they told me they have very few that ask to cut back most want more, and I have never used more than I am suppose to, I usually have more left over each month than I am suppose to. I have never been high on any of my meds. as was explained to me by them if taken as they say and taken for legit pain it will do it's job and will control the pain and you will not get high or a buzz as the druggies do.And trust me they can tell if you are really in need of the meds or just drug seeking.
very well said
Pain in the back

Hartsville, SC

#19 Jan 9, 2012
halleluja wrote:
Finally they did something right in Nashville. The abusers of pain medications will finally have to face the facts and treat their addiction to pain meds. The emergency medical community is tired of having to deal with the problems these drs at pain clinics and those prescribing massive amounts of pills for "back pain". These hardcore narcotics such as the oxycodones and roxicodone, oxymorphone(Opana),Vicadin were all cancer treatment drugs. These highly addictive powerful meds should be prescribed for terminal patients only! They should never be used outside of that parameter unless the patient is an inpatient at a hospital or nursing home receiving aftercare in which a dr feels that the patient needs them. The addicts of these drugs are out stealing to get the money to buy these drugs off the streets, or pretending to be ill, tying up ambulances and ER beds on false calls. EMS workers and ER nurses as well as physicians should be mandated to report such activity if the patient is on Medicare/Medicaid. Sorry, but this one was a good idea. Thank you Tennessee!
"These highly addictive powerful meds should be prescribed for terminal patients only!" Guess you do not suffer from pain, or you would rethink this statement. Not everyone on these "highly addictive powerful meds" is an abuser. I am on oxycodone and I work, go to church and function as a hard working taxpayer / family man. I have three spinal disks gone in my lower back and am Iím in constant pain. No disk between them means bone grinding on bone every time I move. Guess that is just tough aint it? Take an aspirin you say. Oxycodone hardly even touches the pain Iím in. People like you are so ignorant!! I guess hanging out with losers has warped your view of the world. All the losers you hang out with must be pill heads w/ no jobs. How about you get a clue, and stop judging everyone for what a few do. I hope you never get a condition like I have, but if you do, TAKE A ASPRIN. It will make you feel better. NOT!
john smith

United States

#21 Jan 9, 2012
u know i dont take oxy anything but have been on hydrocordone for four years. ive never been high nor do i drink alcohol. But the new law will force me into a pain clinic (if i can get into one). I was told that they would put me on a morphine pump put under my skin. I dont get it, I think they should have more catagories for pain killers and lighten up rules for the less potent drugs. But i still will get charged triple, drive to knoxville, and be treated like a criminal. I think i will start drinking, im sure that will be better for me and my family. And its legal!!!

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