Obama’s brave remarks reveal a true p...

Obama’s brave remarks reveal a true patriot

There are 20 comments on the www.ft.com story from Sep 21, 2010, titled Obama’s brave remarks reveal a true patriot. In it, www.ft.com reports that:

Has Barack Obama just committed political suicide? By appearing to endorse the building of a mosque and Islamic cultural centre at the threshold of Ground Zero, has he set himself at odds with the majority of Americans who regard the idea as a desecration of "hallowed ground"?

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.ft.com.

“Peace, Justice, Honesty, Adab”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#1 Sep 21, 2010
"... the critics are deluded. If the quarrel over the mosque at Ground Zero turns into a debate on the sovereign principles of the American way of life, it is the president and Mayor Bloomberg who will emerge with honour, as the true custodians of what the founders had in mind.

Freedom of conscience and religious practice, Mr Obama said at the Iftar dinner, and again in brief clarifying remarks, define “who we are”. And in reaffirming this bedrock principle, it is Mr Obama, not his enemies, who identifies himself as an authentic American patriot."

Just who does this guy think he is trying to defend the legacy left to the United States by their founding fathers? I mean sure that is not in the job description right?

He is an example to the people of the US as a man who is true to his nations core values. Unlike all the scared and ignorant muppets crying about Obama bring a Muslim.

He is not a Muslim as I know. But he is a decent man and represents a great nation with class.
LOL

Bradenton, FL

#2 Sep 22, 2010
Burn a Koran......you will emerge with honor......

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#3 Sep 22, 2010
AGAIN, this is NOT the argument.

Only a few nutjobs are demanding Muslims are not allowed freedom of religion.

Spotlight is directly on the Muslims who are insisting on putting this Islamic Center, representing Islam at Ground Zero, despite the hurt and paint it is causing to Americans.

Muslims exhibiting insensitivity? Who knew?

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#4 Sep 22, 2010
"No doubt, it is the legitimate right of Muslims to build a community center near Ground Zero. Yet, I believe it is not a wise decision, considering the collective sensitivities in American society. This is a moment to go beyond rights and reach for the common good: To build it elsewhere, if possible, would be a sensible and symbolic move."

(Abooboo's hero) By Tariq Ramadan
Sunday, September 12, 2010

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Muslims who understand this Ground Zero Mosque should not go forth:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TIS ...

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TIS ...

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TIS ...

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TRT...
true

United States

#5 Sep 22, 2010
[QUOTE who="Abu Najda?
He is an example to the people of the US as a man who is true to his nations core values. Unlike all the scared and ignorant muppets crying about Obama bring a Muslim.
He is not a Muslim as I know. But he is a decent man and represents a great nation with class.[/QUOTE]
LMAO, what in the world have you been smoking?
he is not a man at all.
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#7 Sep 22, 2010
There is a group of relatives and friends of those who died on 9/11 that are very upset about this. NYFD firemen, etc.

Muslims always think they are the victims and never the aggressors.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#8 Sep 22, 2010
Abu Najda wrote:
... He is not a Muslim as I know. But he is a decent man and represents a great nation with class.
Yes, but it's "class warfare".

“Peace, Justice, Honesty, Adab”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#9 Sep 23, 2010
Trisha wrote:
AGAIN, this is NOT the argument.
Only a few nutjobs are demanding Muslims are not allowed freedom of religion.
Trying to persuade us all that you are not a nut job like the rest of the Topix neo cons? Ok - I can indulge that - for like 10 seconds
Trisha wrote:
Spotlight is directly on the Muslims who are insisting on putting this Islamic Center, representing Islam at Ground Zero
Does the fact that Muslims are coming together in a venue near "Ground Zero" mean they are representing Islam at Ground Zero? Because if it does, they have been doing that for more like 10 years without incident. Let's face it, this is all crap. Muslims praying in a community centre is just that. There is no symbolism attached to it, nor does it mean anything as grand as "representing" Islam. This is just bullshit people made up to whip up a storm in a tea-cup.
Trisha wrote:
... despite the hurt and paint it is causing to Americans.
Hurt and paint is right. Like the protesting and shouting and arguing while people are remembering their dead loved ones. What a demonstration to the world about the US and their understanding of what is really going on. Those pictures were beamed all over the world - including right here. People think you nutters are nutters. They are right too.
Trisha wrote:
Muslims exhibiting insensitivity? Who knew?
Because you are the only ones that feel the brunt of the insensitivities innit mush. As long as one does not hurt your feelings, its ok to shit on others. And you wonder why people despise Americans.

“Peace, Justice, Honesty, Adab”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11 Sep 23, 2010
true wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO, what in the world have you been smoking?
he is not a man at all.
He is not a muppet like you either.

“Peace, Justice, Honesty, Adab”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12 Sep 23, 2010
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, but it's "class warfare".
It's always war with you hero boy. Never too far from blood and death - even thinking about it for your own streets. This is what we call "shitting on your own doorstep". Its what idiots do.
true

United States

#13 Sep 23, 2010
Abu Najda wrote:
<quoted text>
He is not a muppet like you either.
so your a ape lincoln fan
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#14 Sep 23, 2010
Tsk, tsk, Abu. People despise muslims. Think why.
Iman

Bradenton, FL

#15 Sep 23, 2010
BOO HOOO HOOOOO.......

if I can't have what I want, there will be violence.

Americans are being mean to muslims.

we will kill more American soliders if we don't get our way.

Americans hate muslims

Will have our mosque where we want it or else

Americans just won't accept that we want to get along.

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#16 Sep 23, 2010
Abu Najda wrote:
<quoted text>
Trying to persuade us all that you are not a nut job like the rest of the Topix neo cons? Ok - I can indulge that - for like 10
There's not much I can do or say to someone like you who is hell bent on believing the worst about others, including falsely assuming/accusing others of dishonesty.

And you think you represent 'moderate' Muslims?

lol! You're not fit to be in the same room with them.

This has been my pov from the beginning (you'd learn something from your own brothers in faith if you could just get past your jaded and cynical pov):
"No doubt, it is the legitimate right of Muslims to build a community center near Ground Zero. Yet, I believe it is not a wise decision, considering the collective sensitivities in American society. This is a moment to go beyond rights and reach for the common good: To build it elsewhere, if possible, would be a sensible and symbolic move."

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TPN...
Alen

UK

#17 Sep 23, 2010
If the mosque will cause problems for certain people, then it should not be built there.

9:107 And there are those who have taken a temple to do harm and cause rejection, and to divide between the believers, and as an outpost for those who fought God and His messenger before. They will swear that they only wanted to do good, and God bears witness that they are liars.
9:108 Do not stand in it ever. A temple that is founded on righteousness from the first day is more worthy that you stand in it; in it are men who love to purify themselves. And God loves the purified.
9:109 Is he who founds his building on obtaining righteousness from God and His acceptance better, or he who founds his building on the edge of a cliff which is about to crumble, so that it crumbled with him into the fires of Hell? And God does not guide the wicked people.
9:110 Their buildings that they built continue to cause doubt in their hearts, until their hearts are severed. And God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

“Peace, Justice, Honesty, Adab”

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#18 Sep 23, 2010
more truth wrote:
Tsk, tsk, Abu. People despise muslims. Think why.
How many do you know personally? Then answer your own question.
positiveway

League City, TX

#20 Sep 23, 2010
Abu Najda wrote:
<quoted text>
How many do you know personally? Then answer your own question.
I think thats the sad thing. Many Americans that are feeling this way do not even know any Muslims personally.Some People are always afraid of something when it's different. Not all Muslims are bad, but I do think we have many people here in America spreading hate.
positiveway

League City, TX

#21 Sep 23, 2010
Trisha wrote:
<quoted text>
There's not much I can do or say to someone like you who is hell bent on believing the worst about others, including falsely assuming/accusing others of dishonesty.
And you think you represent 'moderate' Muslims?
lol! You're not fit to be in the same room with them.
This has been my pov from the beginning (you'd learn something from your own brothers in faith if you could just get past your jaded and cynical pov):
"No doubt, it is the legitimate right of Muslims to build a community center near Ground Zero. Yet, I believe it is not a wise decision, considering the collective sensitivities in American society. This is a moment to go beyond rights and reach for the common good: To build it elsewhere, if possible, would be a sensible and symbolic move."
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TPN...
What is the common good? Is it the common good for some people who feels this way? Not all Americans feel this way. It's not about sensitivities, it's about not moving on from the past. Yes, we can't forget, but not allowing this to be built is just wrong. The have rights and freedoms b/c they are Americans...just like you can I. They are Muslims but who cares, the fact is they are Americans and they should have the same rights. They are not building it directly on top of ground zero, but even that shouldn't matter. We build houses,highways,buildings, etc. over dead bodies all the time. I'm sure you have walked over many Native American dead bodies too. Sept. 11 was tragic, but we can't punish people for evil actions of others. We should learn from it and move on, but we are not learning from it. Instead we go and spend U.S. tax payer dollars to blow them up and kill them. Yeah makes alot of since,haha? What does it solve? Does it bring back your lossed friends or family? Does it make the world happier or more peaceful?
I thought we are suppose to love each other?

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#22 Sep 23, 2010
positiveway wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the common good?
Why are you addressing this to me? I didn't say anything about not permitting Muslims to build anything.

I've stated over and over, they have the right, and Americans have the right to be offended.

Reread my posts again, I quoted MUSLIMS stating that the Muslims should build their Islamic Center with a Prayer room elsewhere.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TPN...

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#23 Sep 25, 2010
Trisha wrote:
<quoted text>
There's not much I can do or say to someone like you who is hell bent on believing the worst about others, including falsely assuming/accusing others of dishonesty.
And you think you represent 'moderate' Muslims?
lol! You're not fit to be in the same room with them.
This has been my pov from the beginning (you'd learn something from your own brothers in faith if you could just get past your jaded and cynical pov):
"No doubt, it is the legitimate right of Muslims to build a community center near Ground Zero. Yet, I believe it is not a wise decision, considering the collective sensitivities in American society. This is a moment to go beyond rights and reach for the common good: To build it elsewhere, if possible, would be a sensible and symbolic move."
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TPN...
Just LOVE how little Abooboo ignores his idol's stated position which happens to be in total opposition to Abooboo.

Yes, Abooboo you are a Muslim elitist.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Newport Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Middletown 1955-1960 (Jul '08) Dec '17 Michele 21
Gay Hispanic Snapchats here! (Jul '16) Nov '17 Ben_doso 18
Sandy Werner Terrible Property manager Oct '17 Armchair Coach 1
Newport East Music Thread Jul '17 Musikologist 1
nice nice place to be a ghost! BOO!. :) (Jul '17) Jul '17 Spidey Sense Ting... 1
News Secret WWI telegram holds lessons for today, hi... (Jan '17) Jan '17 James 1
News Jews and Muslims: Here From the Founding (Jan '17) Jan '17 hasToDealwithIdios 1

Newport Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Newport Mortgages