For some felons trying to find work, the punishment becomes the...

K eisha Tucker was a forklift operator at Fort Eustis in October 2004 when the engine blew on her 1993 Honda Accord. Read more
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Wondering

Newport News, VA

#1 Jun 1, 2008
"Studies consistently show — heck, common sense dictates — that an ex-offender is far, far less likely to re-offend if given a fair shot at a job, a place to live and, if needed, treatment for addiction or mental illness."

Gee, if you give me a job, a place to live and medical treatment.....I would promise not to commit any crimes either.
Corporate Clam

Suffolk, VA

#2 Jun 1, 2008
Does the DP hire convicted felons?
JohnB

Hampton, VA

#4 Jun 2, 2008
Corporate Clam wrote:
Does the DP hire convicted felons?
I was just thinking the same thing. I would like to ask Ms. Dietrich if she owned a rental house would she rent it to Keisha Tucker?
Understand Your Concerns

Newport News, VA

#6 Jun 2, 2008
Tamara,

I understand your concern and in some cases there may be inequities.(sp-3) But that's in any society with any program. As you probably realize, heck, common sense dictates that the vast majority of these people are in the position they are in because of poor choices they made. There are consequences with those choices just as there would be with me if I made those same decisions. People are responsible for thier actions and this is the system we have established. Personally, I feel it is a good system all in all.

I would suggest that you do your part. Instead of telling us how to live and how things should be run with your typical hands off approach, please take on some responsibility yourself. Why don't you hire Keisha as an aid, have her work for you, mentor her through her hurtles in life and let us know how it works out after a year. I would be happy to hear the results.....and Good Luck.
jrw

Virginia Beach, VA

#7 Jun 8, 2008
my son is one of these people. He has look for a job and he can't find one. So some one in the family help him start his on business and he is try so hard to make it work. I hate the fact that we live in the the commonwealth. I hope something can be don for these people. But until this takes place family will have to help out.
It is sad when the judge says you did not do anything wrong but I have to punish you anyway. I just hope that the judge can feel good about him self.
Some one needs to help these people. They need to be able to take care of there family. It is time for the commonwealth needs to redo some of the laws. The jails are full and when they go there most of them never see out side for a year or so. you need to go over to the virginia peninsula regional jail or any regional jail they never see out side.
thank you
jew

Charlestown, IN

#8 Jun 16, 2008
being the spouse of a felon, I can tell you first hand how hard life is on the entire family, when the father can't find a job because of a felony, yes he made the bad decision, and paid for it with time in jail, so why does the punishment keep coming? there should be some way to eventually get a felon off your record after you have proven yourself, unless it is for a violent or sex crime. Not being able to take care of your family because you can't get a job, no one will hire you, it's like a back cloud is over you all the time, if you have not lived it you can really br a goof judge.
Dennis S

Richmond, VA

#9 Jun 16, 2008
Sorry that some felons have repented and are 'going straight', but are having problems getting employment. But employers not only have a right to discriminate against job applicants with criminal records, they would be held liable themselves if they did not and something 'bad' happened. I would probably lose my job and career as an engineer if I was arrested and convicted of a felony. I imagine it would be the same for any job that requires a security clearance or bonding.
David

Newport News, VA

#10 Jun 16, 2008
Freezing these people out of society is a bad choice. Is there any wonder why Hampton Roads is so violent? These people have to survive. If there isn't a job for them how are they supposed to feed, cloth and shelter themselves?

If you put an individuals in a desperate situation he's going to take desperate measures.

It's a lot cheaper to the citizens to find a way to make the felons productive citizens than outcast in society.

I know a black guy who was involved in a simple assult, a fight with a crack addicted neighbor who stole money and tools from is property. He's having such a terrible time finding employment and his sentence was a suspended sentence and $250.00 fine. This is a good man that protects his neighbors and cares for his family. But on employment applications he still has that misdermenor conviction.
The Gunny

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#12 Jun 16, 2008
Don't do the Crime if you can't do the Time
JWBPLANATV

Virginia Beach, VA

#13 Jun 16, 2008
So you see David, in the Commonwealth of Virginia once you are guilty thats it. There are times when I think we are just a bunch of vindictive judgemental hollier than thou straight laced arrogant idiots.It takes strength of will, faith and love to help someone turn their life around because you are leaving yourself vunerable to being taken advantage of or being proven wrong. Most of us arent willing to do this.
Gaelic-Perfect Storm

United States

#14 Jun 16, 2008
jew wrote:
being the spouse of a felon, I can tell you first hand how hard life is on the entire family, when the father can't find a job because of a felony, yes he made the bad decision, and paid for it with time in jail, so why does the punishment keep coming? there should be some way to eventually get a felon off your record after you have proven yourself, unless it is for a violent or sex crime. Not being able to take care of your family because you can't get a job, no one will hire you, it's like a back cloud is over you all the time, if you have not lived it you can really br a goof judge.
I certainly do not want to judge, however, our society is just as harsh on criminals as the earlier years in the countries early development stages.
Feeling sorry for a loser- you need to get out and set yourself free from an enabler. IMHO
pogo

Augusta, GA

#15 Jun 16, 2008
if you need a felony... hey there's only one way to go...
Cory Lee

United States

#16 Aug 20, 2008
I've been out a little over a year...no one wants to give an ex felon a chance!!!! I did my time...paid for my crime...anybody know where to find a second shift job...child support wants to send me back...NEED HELP DESPERATELY!!!!!! I've been in NO TROUBLE since my release...have a first shift seasonal job (all I could find) Judge says it's not good enough....
Julie

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Sep 2, 2008
How sad. I would bet the farm that each and every person who has judged and put down another on this forum has committed any number of crimes large and small. Maybe some of you have been lucky enough not to get caught. More likely, you probably have been caught, but somehow justify your own actions as acceptable. Every single person has made and will make mistakes in their lifetime. There are no exceptions to that fact. And EVERYONE deserves a second chance. Some day it might be your son or your daughter.
The Peace Maker

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#19 Sep 2, 2008
Again at some point you made the decision to commit a serious crime and now you say the rules are not fair,(I'm sure the victim felt the same way) you should have thought of that before you committed the crime. So you see all his troubles are of his own makings.

Case closed

Felony-One of several grave crimes, such as murder, rape, or burglary, punishable by a more stringent sentence than that given for a misdemeanor.
Thats what it is

Suffolk, VA

#20 Sep 7, 2008
It is so sad that people just assume that you made a choice to get a felony. Well I worked at a job the boss would give me new sets of tires money for cable and house bills for myself and other females well I guess one of the checks that he gave me his wife found and he just accused me of embezzlement which he knew wasnt true. Also I had no way of finding the other people to come and testify as to him giving the young females on the job money on a regular basis. My court appointed attorney told me the case was too involved and I should just take a deal which gave me no jail time. At the beginning the prosecutor was aware of my claims and said he would make me and the "victim" take lie detector tests well he never followed through he just prosecuted me without investigating if this was credible or not so here I am a convicted felon an NO I DIDN'T NOT MAKE THE DECISION TO COMMIT A CRIME MAYBE WHAT I DID TAKING MONEY FROM A MARRIED MAN WAS MORALLY WRONG BUT NOT CRIMINAL. So you can not judge until you know the facts.

Since: Jun 08

Newport News, VA

#21 Sep 7, 2008
Let's see the liberal daily press feels that a community activist is qualified to be president. Why not give a convicted felon a job as a doctor for their health care program. Makes as much since.
The Peace Maker

Williamsburg, VA

#22 Sep 8, 2008
Well let me understand this better your boss was giving you something for nothing and you figured WOW what a great boss. I have worked for many years and my boss never gave me a set of tires or money for house bills. You reap what you sow and if you sleep in the gutter then bad shit happens. In other words you are the maker of all your own troubles so suck it up and stop taken something for nothing thinking there will be no consequences.
oweunuthin

Wheeler, WI

#23 Sep 9, 2008
to all of you that want to freeze out the felons, they will get out of prison, look for a job, find out that they cannot find any, so guess what? dont get mad when they end up robbing you or selling drugs to your famiy members. all men were created for self preservation, a need to survive. I will bet that the only difference between you and them is that they got caught. so dont try playin mr. rightous. when you realize that we are all in the belly of the same beast. we are not so different
Thats what it is

Norfolk, VA

#24 Sep 9, 2008
The peace maker

You are such an idiot maybe you need to learn how to comprehend when reading.Maybe you have never been given any gifts from the opposite sex thats what I seen it as. Just because I took gifts does not mean that gave him the right to use the law to fix his problems with his wife and tell an out right lie. I don't know any single person that is gonna say NO please don't give me anything because I will reap what I sow. I'm allowed to receive gifts without having to be accused of theft jerk that was the point of the story. Every felon did not see it coming didn't go out and make a choice to committ a crime if I knew it was a crime to get money from him then I sure would have said no.

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