Guns missing from stolen NN cop car

Full story: Hampton Roads Daily Press

An unmarked police car containing a handgun, a tactical rifle and other police equipment, was stolen this week in Newport News .

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1st post, didn't take long for the usual racist trash to come out.
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Harry, just love cop bashing don't you? That's why you didn't respond to my post in answer to your challenge in another thread so here it is again - I took less then five minutes to find these officers given lifesaving awards. How many do you have?

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Lifesaving Award (2008)
The Lifesaving Award recognizes an officer’s actions that put the officer in harm’s way while attempting to save the life of another individual. The awards were announced during the VACP/VPCF Annual Conference on August 19 at the Homestead in Hot Springs, Virginia. The awards were given to the recipients’ agency administrators to be presented in ceremonies at the officers’ agencies. The Recipients of the 2008 Lifesaving Award are:

Officers Terrence Dunbar, Terral L. Hollars, Scott A. Mounger, and Sergeant Xavier O. Falero of the Newport News Police Department

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VACP/VPCF Recognizes Four Officers with 2006 Awards for Lifesaving

Officer Bharat J. Ramdeholl, Newport News Police Department
On June 24, 2005, Officer Ramdeholl was one of the first officers to arrive at the scene of two-story home engulfed in flames and heavy smoke. When he forced his way in the front door, a concerned neighbor quickly ran into the house. Officer Ramdeholl followed her and pulled her, against her will, to safety. Officer Ramdeholl reentered the house and assisted the 90-year-old homeowner out of the house to safety. Then, the neighbor attempted to reenter the house, but Officer Ramdeholl intervened to keep her out of the burning structure. Although two other persons unfortunately died in the fire, Officer Ramdeholl’s lifesaving efforts saved the homeowner and the neighbor.

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2003 VACP/VPCF Awards for Lifesaving

Newport News Police Department
Lieutenant Dawn D. Barber
Sergeant Randy A. Franklin
Officer Eric D. Randall
Officer Daniel R. Snyder
Harry Morant wrote:
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Blah, blah, blah...shut the heck up with your senseless babble.
Name me one, just one officer in the past twenty years that has actually been credited with saving a citizens life...just one!
Now some trumped-up over exaggerated medal giving media blitz - show me just one example.
For every one you can provide I will provide one thousand persons who were not protected by police officers. do you really think that in you moment of need when faced with life or death a police officer is going to swoop in like a cartoon character and save you? Are you really that naive?
Save yourself America - buy a gun, shot often, and carry the damn thing. If a violent criminal crosses paths with you and intends to kill, rape, or mangle...you have a fighting chance and most likely will shoot the inner-city bottom feeder and bless him with a permanent dirt nap.
Guns save lives, not police.
Harry Morant wrote:
An M16 and AR15 look identical on the outside. Their internal parts are very different and NOT interchangeable.
Police and military use fully automatic M16 machine guns. One pull of the trigger and it keeps firing until all the ammunition runs out.
Civilians can purchased AR15 versions that are semi-automatic - only one shot per pull of the trigger.
They look alike but do not operate the same way. Congratulations NNPD, a criminal now has a machine gun courtesy of your failed officers and policies.
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Harry Morant wrote:
An M16 and AR15 look identical on the outside. Their internal parts are very different and NOT interchangeable.
Police and military use fully automatic M16 machine guns. One pull of the trigger and it keeps firing until all the ammunition runs out.
Civilians can purchased AR15 versions that are semi-automatic - only one shot per pull of the trigger.
They look alike but do not operate the same way. Congratulations NNPD, a criminal now has a machine gun courtesy of your failed officers and policies.
For the record the m16 dosent nessesarily empty itself with one pull of the trigger , that is only one mode of operation , the weapon has three , they are full auto.,selective fire and semi auto and they are not identical on the outside as you stated ,and also each has a distinct sound when fired at you .
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<quoted text>For the record the m16 dosent nessesarily empty itself with one pull of the trigger , that is only one mode of operation , the weapon has three , they are full auto.,selective fire and semi auto and they are not identical on the outside as you stated ,and also each has a distinct sound when fired at you .
Excuse me, but I spent the better part of my life depending upon my issue M16 to save my life - I know them inside and out.

First off - they are identical on the outside. There are many configurations available but to the untrained eye they are indistinguishable.

Secondly, they shoot the same damn cartridge, 5.56x45mm so they sound exactly the same. Maybe they sound different to you on your PSIII game but not in the real world. BTW - care to ask me how a 7.62x39mm or 7.62x54R sounds coming at you? Much different than a 5.56.

In the final part of my lesson I will detail the modes of fire avaliable: one most you can select from safe, semi, or fully automatic.

For a period of time the worlds finest, USMC, had a 3-shot burst option that replaced the fully automatic fire. If you wish we can discuss the cam timing issues and why that feature was eliminated and our beloved USMC returned to full auto.

The simple fact is the government and the media show everyone a civilian AR15 that can only fire one shot with each pull of the trigger and they call it an assault weapon - only designed for killing, etc.

What they fail to tell you is that these are NOT the same weapons carried by our military and police that have FULLY automatic fire capability.

They look the same but are worlds apart in mechanical operation.

If you have any other specific questions feel free to ask - I can answer all of them thanks to my outstanding government training.
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Harry Morant wrote:
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Excuse me, but I spent the better part of my life depending upon my issue M16 to save my life - I know them inside and out.
First off - they are identical on the outside. There are many configurations available but to the untrained eye they are indistinguishable.
Secondly, they shoot the same damn cartridge, 5.56x45mm so they sound exactly the same. Maybe they sound different to you on your PSIII game but not in the real world. BTW - care to ask me how a 7.62x39mm or 7.62x54R sounds coming at you? Much different than a 5.56.
In the final part of my lesson I will detail the modes of fire avaliable: one most you can select from safe, semi, or fully automatic.
For a period of time the worlds finest, USMC, had a 3-shot burst option that replaced the fully automatic fire. If you wish we can discuss the cam timing issues and why that feature was eliminated and our beloved USMC returned to full auto.
The simple fact is the government and the media show everyone a civilian AR15 that can only fire one shot with each pull of the trigger and they call it an assault weapon - only designed for killing, etc.
What they fail to tell you is that these are NOT the same weapons carried by our military and police that have FULLY automatic fire capability.
They look the same but are worlds apart in mechanical operation.
If you have any other specific questions feel free to ask - I can answer all of them thanks to my outstanding government training.
So are you saying there is no such thing as selective fire with the M16?
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Harry, just love cop bashing don't you? That's why you didn't respond to my post in answer to your challenge in another thread so here it is again - I took less then five minutes to find these officers given lifesaving awards. How many do you have?
No AWF - I only enjoy bashing bad cops. Unfortunately times have changed and these days most cops are bad. It is really sad situation that will be corrected soon enough.
Here are a few local heroes who never received any awards - only God knows how many were reported by the papers, or were known to anyone other than the good guy and the perp.
Enjoy the stories...they are all true.

Daily Press, Newport News, VA
Morris Brown had just dropped off a friend at an apartment when two men stopped him and asked for drugs, said police. When Brown replied that he had no drugs, the men announced they were robbing him. A third man approached from behind and grabbed Brown while the other two started beating him. The men stole Brown's keys, cell phone and wallet and started to walk away. Brown probably would have let them have his property in exchange for his life, but then the man who had approached Brown from behind pointed a handgun at him. Brown, who has a concealed-carry permit, drew his pistol and shot two of his assailants. One man died at the hospital. The man who pointed a gun at Brown fled the scene when the shooting started. It was unclear if he was injured.

The Virginian-Pilot, Hampton Roads, VA
A 26-year-old Portsmouth, Va., mother had used her new .40-cal. pistol at the target range for the first time and ended up relying on it to defend her family from an assailant the same night. Temesha Greene was fearful of the increasing crime rate in her community and had purchased the gun to protect her family. After learning to shoot the gun at the range, she went to a grocery store later that day with her boyfriend and her two sons. Upon returning home and while they were unloading groceries from the car, Greene said a man got out of a van and approached them in the driveway. Greene and her boyfriend, Cedric Williams, asked the man who he was but he did not respond. When Greene saw the man draw a gun, she pulled her handgun and the two exchanged fire. Williams found cover behind a tree and told the two boys to duck down. Greene was not injured, but managed to shoot the gunman, later identified as Emmitt Warren. When the gunfire subsided, the driver of the van started to leave, but Warren called out to him to wait. When the van was later located, Warren was found suffering from a gunshot wound to the chest. He and an accomplice have been charged with attempted murder and weapons violations.

The Virginian-Pilot, Hampton Roads, VA
After receiving threatening phone calls from a male acquaintance, a Virginia Beach, Virginia, woman feared she might be confronted by the man. One morning he appeared at her door under the pretense of retrieving a hair dryer he had lent the woman and her husband. She asked him to wait while she went to get the dryer and shut the door. While she was in the bedroom, the man broke into the home, went to the kitchen and armed himself with a steak knife. Her tormentor threatened her and confronted her in the bedroom, where she drew her husband's semi- automatic pistol from a nightstand drawer. After several unheeded warnings, the man lunged at her. She fired and hit him several times. The attacker, a criminal out on bond, died a short time later. The woman will not be charged, police said.

The Daily Press, Newport News
Two robbers picked the wrong house when they entered a Newport News, Virginia, residence. After hearing a commotion outside his bedroom door, a 20-year-old man readied himself with his .22 rifle for a confrontation. When his door was kicked down by an armed and masked man, he shot the intruder. The crook's accomplice fled. The two men had robbed the man's roommate of cash and ransacked his room.
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The Daily Press, Hampton, VA
When the two men entered the Hampton, Virginia, lounge--one wearing a mask and grasping a pistol--the manager quickly grabbed his 9 mm and confronted the masked intruder. A scuffle ensued in which the manager shot the robber, critically wounding him. The accomplice ran from the bar but was quickly arrested by police. A dancer who worked at the bar and was present during the holdup was charged with helping plan the robbery.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Two fares sat in the back of a Suffolk, Virginia, taxi cab, when one of the men pulled a revolver on the driver, James E. Ridley. Ridley responded by pulling a .38 he carried and shooting the armed man. His accomplice jumped from the cab and fled. Ridley then drove the injured suspect to the hospital for treatment.

The Daily Press, Newport News, VA
A severe beating and a broken arm were more than enough motivation for Theresa Jenkins to leave her live-in boyfriend, get her own apartment and--for protection from future assaults--purchase a handgun. Just two weeks later, the abuser burst through the door of her Gloucester, Virginia, apartment and slashed her arm with a knife. Jenkins was able to turn the tide of the attack with three shots from her .380, which sent the wounded man running from the apartment.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
A Norfolk, Virginia, pizza delivery driver was sent to a high-crime neighborhood with another driver as a safety precaution and was still forced to defend himself and his fellow employee in a brazen robbery attempt. Overtaken by three hoodlums, the armed driver fatally shot one of his attackers as the other two scurried away at the sight of the firearm.

Daily Press, Newport News, VA
In what has become an all-too-familiar scenario, a four-year-old Hampton, Virginia, girl was attacked by a pair of vicious dogs at a neighborhood playground. Fortunately, neighbor DuBois Duke heard the child's screams. "I saw the little girl on the ground with one dog holding her neck and the other biting her thigh," says Duke. "They were ripping her apart." Duke loaded his pistol and raced outside, firing twice to scare the dogs. When they ran off, he rushed the girl to the hospital, where she received more than 40 stitches.

The Daily Press, Hampton Roads, VA
Two brothers were using a Newport News, Virginia, car wash when a man approached, brandished a gun and demanded money. After confronting the robber, who threatened him with the gun, the older brother drew his 9 mm and fired several times, mortally wounding the thug. The dead man was a convicted drug offender whose sentence had been suspended.

The Daily Press, Newport News, VA
Herbert Armstrong's daughter answered a knock on the door of her father's Isle of Wight, Va., home and was assaulted by an armed thug. Rushing to her aid, Armstrong, 78, was also attacked and knocked to his knees. Struggling to his feet, Armstrong grabbed a revolver from atop the refrigerator and drove the assailant from the home with several shots.

The Daily Press, Newport News, VA
Victimized by two previous burglaries at his Newport News, Va., home, Jonas Norris evened the score when the man returned for a third try. After entering the home via a window, the burglar's movements woke Norris, who fired several shots at him. The man fled, but a wounded suspect was apprehended while seeking medical treatment.
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The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Citizens of Ivor, Va., turned out in force when two men robbed the local bank. After their car crashed while fleeing from police, the duo fled into a wooded area. Local residents immediately armed themselves and, along with police, surrounded the woods. The pair surrendered to a volunteer and an officer the next morning. Said one local resident, "Here, the feeling is 'Hey, you've got my money.”

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Sonya Miller of Nags Head, N.C., had wanted a handgun for protection, and her father gave her one. Fifteen minutes later, Miller used the revolver to scare away a man who threatened to kill her. Miller was getting out of her car when the man pointed a pistol at her. When she pulled her own gun, he dropped his and fled. Police later arrested a man who is also suspected in several sexual assaults.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
After she offered to let him sleep in a camper behind her home, an acquaintance punched Theresa Paulfranz of Chesapeake, Va., and threatened to rape her. A neighbor made her assailant leave, but he returned several hours later and kicked in the door to her home, again threatening her. She fired a single shot from her .38 revolver, killing the intruder. Police said she acted in self-defense.

Pilot & Ledger Star, Norfolk, VA
Linda Copeland of Franklin, Va., was giving a young woman friend a ride home from a local club when a man driving a van ran them off the road. The man, who had a prior dispute with Copeland's passenger, then grabbed a baseball bat, approached the car and knocked out the driver's side window. Copeland pulled her revolver and opened fire, wounding the attacker and allowing the women to escape.

The Daily Press, Newport News, VA
Hearing screams for help in the early morning hours, two Newport News, Va., citizens came to the assistance of a woman being attacked by a would-be rapist. After being confronted by the first citizen on the scene, the assailant was held at gunpoint by the second neighborhood man to arrive. The 27-year-old suspect was turned over to police and charged with abduction, attempted rape and the use of a gun in a crime.

The Ledger-Star, Portsmouth, VA
A Portsmouth, Va., restaurant employee was making a night deposit at a local bank when he was accosted by a knife-wielding man who demanded his bank bag. The employee told the man that his partner was waiting in the car and had a gun. The would-be robber then fled.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Ernest Johnson III heard noises coming from the garage of his Virginia Beach, Va., home and armed himself as he went to investigate. The junior high school assistant principal found a prowler in the kitchen and told the man to halt. The intruder ran toward Johnson, who fired his handgun once, fatally wounding the prowler. The city prosecutor declined to prosecute the homeowner, saying the shooting was self-defense.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Guy Robey of Chesapeake, Va., was watching television when he noticed a stranger with a hammer in his backyard. When the man started breaking a window, Robey went upstairs and grabbed a rifle, then returned to confront the burglar, who had just entered the home. As the intruder raised his hammer the 21-year-old resident shot, and the wounded break-in artist fled. Police said that Robey would not be charged in the incident.
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The Virginian Pilot, Ledger-Star, Norfolk, VA
A man broke into Jeffrey Maynard's Virginia Beach, Va., home and began threatening the occupants. When the intruder blocked their attempts to escape, Maynard grabbed a rifle and mortally wounded the man.

The Ledger-Star, Norfolk, VA
An armed man barged into a Virginia Beach, Va., country club as a bingo game sponsored by the Norfolk [Va.] Fraternal Order of Police was breaking up. Announcing a robbery, he pointed a gun at off-duty policeman Robert Wheaton. When they subsequently exchanged shots, fellow officers Joseph Monaghan and Roger Pederson also returned fire, wounding the gunman.

The Ledger-Star, Norfolk, VA
Police had staked out Robert Edwards' Portsmouth, Va., men's store, expecting an armed robber to strike. But they weren't needed in the end. When the criminal demanded cash, Edwards pulled a pistol and held him for the waiting police.

The Ledger-Star, Norfolk, VA
Awakened by the sound of the front door screen of his Virginia Beach, Va., home being pushed in, Thomas Smith picked up a shotgun and began to search the house. He found a man in the dining room and asked what he was doing there. When the intruder approached, Smith retreated, asking him to leave. The man instead made a threatening gesture and kept coming, and Smith fired, killing him.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Serena Ashburn was talking on the phone when she heard glass breaking in her Chesapeake, Va., house. She immediately went upstairs to her bedroom to get her revolver. As she began descending the stairs, the 80-year-old widow met an intruder coming up. She fired once, mortally wounding the man, who police said was armed with a martial arts device and a hunting knife.

The Daily Press, Newport News-Hampton, VA
Hampton Institute security guard Billy Joe Roberts walked into a Hampton, Va., bank to discover a man dressed in woman's clothing staging a holdup. Identifying himself, Roberts hit the floor to avoid two shots, fired his own .38, and ducked into an office to call police. The robber, dragging a woman hostage, fired through the glass partition, just missing Roberts. When the robber fled, Roberts pursued and killed him in a gun battle. The robber was due to begin a six-year prison term for raping a 12-year-old girl, police said.

The Ledger-Star, Norfolk, VA
Pharmacist Russell E. Simpson, Jr., was busy in his Virginia Beach, Va., shop when two men burst inside and announced a robbery. Simpson, a victim of 30 burglaries and robberies during the last 16 years, remained calm and was able to whip out a 12-ga. shotgun, which he fired at the feet of one of the would-be robbers. The man who was shot at managed to escape, but his bewildered accomplice surrendered.

The Daily Press, Newport News, VA
A would-be rapist broke into a woman's Williamsburg, Va., apartment, but the woman, screaming for help, escaped to the outside and beat on the front door of neighbor Benjamin Smith. Smith, armed with a .22 cal. pistol opened his door and confronted the criminal, forcing him to flee.
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The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
After doing late-night paperwork, Paul Sparrow had fallen asleep behind the meat counter in his Virginia Beach, Va., grocery. He awakened when glass in the store's front door was smashed and a man wearing a ski mask entered. Sparrow picked up a shotgun and shot the burglar in the hand. The suspect was later arrested at a nearby hospital where he had gone for treatment.

The Daily Press, Newport News, VA
Elmo Ethington's wife telephoned him at home and told him that the Simpsonville, Ky., bank she manages had been robbed. Ethington ran to his car, took the nearest road, and shortly encountered the robber's car. He gave chase, first on the highway and then on foot, subdued the thief at gunpoint, then flagged down a highway patrolman who took the man into custody.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Capt. Joseph Peek, USN [Ret.] awakened by noises coming from an adjacent bedroom in his Virginia Beach, Va., home, picked up his .38 revolver and confronted a switchblade-wielding burglar. He forced the man to lie face down on the floor while his wife phoned the police.

The Virginia-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
NRA Life Member Russell Simpson, at work in his Virginia Beach, Va., pharmacy, was startled when a "customer" pulled a semi-automatic rifle from beneath his coat and aimed at him. The two were struggling over the gun when James Merkle, also an NRA Member, intervened. When the robber swung toward him with the rifle, Merkle drew his revolver, fired once and killed the robber.

The Ledger-Star, Norfolk, VA
Awakened about 5 a.m. by the sounds of someone trying to break down the front door of his Virginaia Beach, Va., home, Daniel Hitt grabbed his .22 rifle. Hitt confronted a burglar inside the house and fired one shot when the man advanced toward him, disregarding orders to halt. The burglar then ran from the house.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Convinced the house was empty, several teenage burglars broke into the Virginia Beach, Va., home of Bruce Van Deuson. Alerted by their noise, Van Deuson got his shotgun and walked into a hallway where he apprehended and held one of the youths. The young burglar's confederates fled out a rear door.

Ledger-Star, Norfolk, VA
Awakened before dawn by screams of a house guest, former Norfolk, Va., mayor John Gurkin, 80, found an intruder attempting to rob several guests at gunpoint. Gurkin armed himself with a shotgun and chased the intruder from the house.

The Virginian-Pilot, Norfolk, VA
In Portsmouth, Va., two men walked into Robert H. Oliver's jewelry store and asked to see a watch and a bracelet. Oliver became suspicious and went to a back room to obtain a pistol. As he returned to the store, one man pointed a gun at him and said, "This is a holdup." Oliver ducked behind a partition and fired two shots at the fleeing bandits. Moments later one man was picked up by police, wounded by a bullet from the jeweler's pistol.
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Virginia Pilot, Norfolk, VA
Robert K. Ashburn and his wife were alone in their Norfolk, Va., grocery store, when a pistol-wielding bandit walked in and demanded money. As Ashburn gave the man money, the thug pointed the gun at Ashburn's wife and demanded more. At that moment Ashburn grabbed his own pistol and fired. The thug staggered out of the store and collapsed, mortally wounded, a block away.

Daily Press, Newport News, VA
Two men bought soft drinks in Cecil Saunders' York County, VA., general store, shot him in the knee with a cal..22 pistol, then demanded all the cash. The storekeeper gave them over $400 in bills and the bandits fled to their car. Saunders grabbed his cal..38 revolver and hobbled to the door, firing at the running felons. Police found the car and the bandits parked a few miles down the road, both occupants bleeding from lung and groin wounds.
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Apr 13, 2009
 
Majik kneegro wrote:
...NEWPORT NEWS IS A JOKE AND THAT MEANS THE ENTIRE POLITICAL AND GOVERNING BODY ,ARE THESE THE BEST MONEY CAN BUY ??????
The best money can buy? Have you seen the PD's budget cuts? Hiring freezes, no pay raises unless you're last name is Hildebrandt, equipment breaks and no money to replace, tuition reimbursement cancelled (who needs educated police anyways?), retirement benefit cuts, worker's comp cuts, and the impending threat of jobs cuts. This isn't the best money can buy, it is all that is left after the smart ones have moved on. This is essentially the bottom of the recruiting barrel.
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Harry Morant wrote:
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For a period of time the worlds finest, USMC, had a 3-shot burst option that replaced the fully automatic fire. If you wish we can discuss the cam timing issues and why that feature was eliminated and our beloved USMC returned to full auto.
Oh Harry, you really showed your age with your posts. The Corps still has the 3 round burst on it's M19's, and we use the M19-A4's now. The Marines have not had the full auto variant M16 since Vietnam. That would make you...what...about 57 now? The only rifles that the Marines have that are full auto are the M4's, and even then most are only semi auto. Only the spec. ops. groups and perhaps some higher ranking enlistedmen have the full auto M4's.

And, for the record, the M4 (not an M16) that was stolen was only a semi auto. I know, I've seen it.
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A typo on my above post. It should say M16's, not M19's. Clumsy fingers.
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A Nobody - I stand corrected. Thank you for the update.
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Harry Morant wrote:
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Excuse me, but I spent the better part of my life depending upon my issue M16 to save my life - I know them inside and out.
First off - they are identical on the outside. There are many configurations available but to the untrained eye they are indistinguishable.
Secondly, they shoot the same damn cartridge, 5.56x45mm so they sound exactly the same. Maybe they sound different to you on your PSIII game but not in the real world. BTW - care to ask me how a 7.62x39mm or 7.62x54R sounds coming at you? Much different than a 5.56.
In the final part of my lesson I will detail the modes of fire avaliable: one most you can select from safe, semi, or fully automatic.
For a period of time the worlds finest, USMC, had a 3-shot burst option that replaced the fully automatic fire. If you wish we can discuss the cam timing issues and why that feature was eliminated and our beloved USMC returned to full auto.
The simple fact is the government and the media show everyone a civilian AR15 that can only fire one shot with each pull of the trigger and they call it an assault weapon - only designed for killing, etc.
What they fail to tell you is that these are NOT the same weapons carried by our military and police that have FULLY automatic fire capability.
They look the same but are worlds apart in mechanical operation.
If you have any other specific questions feel free to ask - I can answer all of them thanks to my outstanding government training.
Ummm sorry you are wrong. The M16A4 Variant. Also the current issued Rifle for the Marine Corps has three selections on the selector switch. Safe, Semi, and Burst ( the Marine Corps does not issue the standard battle rifle in a full auto configuration). The CQB W Variant M4 ( currently the only M4 configuration the Marine Corps issues) has an full auto configuration. These are limited in to who there issued. CQB teams and support personel where a pistol is not feasable.
As of the moment I am writing this there are about 150,000 +/- M16A4 currently fielded and about 10,000 M4 +/-. This is the Marine Corps, the Army is another story they have 3 versions of the M4 M16 they issue and again only one of the M4 variants has full Auto the rest are all burst including the M16 models.
Now I appreciate the ammoutn of time you spent trusting your life to a M16 but since I work at MCSC in the PG-13 Division ( Product Group Infantry weapons systems ) im probally a little more spun up on details than you are.
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For those that legally carry concealed weapons, this event illustrates why we don't want to 'just leave it in the car' when going to any of the places we are not allowed to carry concealed.

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AJay wrote:
For those that legally carry concealed weapons, this event illustrates why we don't want to 'just leave it in the car' when going to any of the places we are not allowed to carry concealed.
Very true.
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@Wrong - thanks for correction. I appreciate you taking the time to provide that level of detail.

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