Pot legalization measure gets big lift

Sep 27, 2010 Full story: www.sfgate.com 54

In a dramatic shift of sentiment, nearly half of California's likely voters now want to legalize marijuana use in the state, according to a new Field Poll.

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Since: Aug 10

Los Angeles, CA

#44 Oct 1, 2010
The California Governor, Schwarzenegger, who opposes Proposition 19, this morning signed a landmark bill in the state of California which decriminalizes the possession of marijuana. For those wondering, this does not make marijuana possession legal, but it no longer will be a misdemeanor offense. Instead of the mandatory fine of $100 as well as the mandatory appearance in front of a judge, the outcome of being caught with marijuana will now simply be a $100 fine. The new law will be in effect on January 1st and include anyone caught with up to an ounce of marijuana. Basically the possession of the drug is seen no different by California now than speeding is. Unless you like Criminals making money off the black market stealing you tax revenue the vote needs to be yes
Parks and Rec

Maple Grove, MN

#45 Oct 1, 2010
Remember in November wrote:
If the government is upset about tobacco smoke and the detrimental affects of it on our lungs, then this should also be considered on marijuana which DOES cause bronchial problems and exacerbate mental illness.
It's about getting more tax money. This is also encourage youth to begin experimentation earlier.
The bronchial problems are nothing compared to tobacco and there is absolutely zero evidence that it does anything to promote mental illness. Your arguments make no sense.
Ron Locke

Paradise, CA

#46 Oct 1, 2010
legalize cannabis wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry, but I just don't understand what you mean by tiresome.
Well, you know. They act like Car Salesmen.
Avid Reader

Barnesville, OH

#47 Oct 1, 2010
Notmammal wrote:
All current and recent scientific data shows that marijuana is detrimental to mental health. Actual chemistry of the brain is changed and the endocrine system is fooled into producing less of necessary chemicals that components of marijuana mimic, but do not exactly replace. Sociological impact from the drug is demonstrated by the actual destruction of many people's lives over many decades after marijuana use became more common. Almost all criminals extol the benefits of marijuana in their lives, yet are either in prison and jails for other issues, or lead lives that more than often succumb to harder drugs. Marijuana impairs vision and depth perception, causing visual hallucinations that threaten others people's lives routinely. Potheads can not fly planes, or do other tasks requiring astute emotional, physical and intellectual capabilities. They are deluded because of the drug to BELIEVE they can, but their temporary feelings of achieving success in art, etc. are not validated by actual work, which is childish and often morally vacant. Potheads are emotionally stagnant and wake up many years later in their lives and find their chances of success and achievement have bypassed them due to drug use and self-imposed impairment. We see the exact same self-validating delusional thinking in mental wards and hospitals. Most withdrawal and psychological readjustment help done today is related to marijuana use. Most dope users are pushers and validate their own weaknesses by drawing others, especially younger persons, into their sphere of haze and daze. Legalizing, or validating marijuana use at any level except specific medicinal applications is not warranted.
YOU ARE DILUSIONAL IN YOUR RANTING.

It's funny - every successful person I know, smokes pot to relax and unwind. You have been reading too much government propaganda. Cannabis have been proven scientifically to not cause brain damage, look it up. It also does no cause bronchial problems, like Tobacco. It actually cleans the lungs and keeps them healthy, again proven.

Forget the medical uses and the recreational uses. What really needs to happen is the INDUSTRIAL HEMP revolution. California could recover and become king of manufacturing with legalizing INDUSTRIAL HEMP. Far superior to plastics, not to mention the renewable fuels that can be produced. Again, look it up!
legalize cannabis

Lansdowne, PA

#48 Oct 1, 2010
Ron Locke wrote:
<quoted text>Well, you know. They act like Car Salesmen.
OK, you mean "obnoxious" or "overbearing". That makes more sense. And I would agree with you.

Cheers! Arnie signed the bill today!!!!!! January 1, pot is decriminalized in CA.!!!!
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#49 Oct 1, 2010
Ron Locke wrote:
<quoted text>Well, you know. They act like Car Salesmen.
Whats wrong with you, did you buy the wrong car?
Cancer Survivor

San Pablo, CA

#50 Oct 1, 2010
Monkeysthrow Poo wrote:
The California Governor, Schwarzenegger, who opposes Proposition 19, this morning signed a landmark bill in the state of California which decriminalizes the possession of marijuana. For those wondering, this does not make marijuana possession legal, but it no longer will be a misdemeanor offense. Instead of the mandatory fine of $100 as well as the mandatory appearance in front of a judge, the outcome of being caught with marijuana will now simply be a $100 fine. The new law will be in effect on January 1st and include anyone caught with up to an ounce of marijuana. Basically the possession of the drug is seen no different by California now than speeding is. Unless you like Criminals making money off the black market stealing you tax revenue the vote needs to be yes
Everything you posted was correct with one exception. We don't need to wait until January. The bill he signed is effective immediately according to all the articles and news casts that I have seen. Yeah!
Jim Smith

Eureka, CA

#51 Oct 2, 2010
Notmammal wrote:
All current and recent scientific data shows that marijuana is detrimental to mental health. Actual chemistry of the brain is changed and the endocrine system is fooled into producing less of necessary chemicals that components of marijuana mimic, but do not exactly replace. Sociological impact from the drug is demonstrated by the actual destruction of many people's lives over many decades after marijuana use became more common. Almost all criminals extol the benefits of marijuana in their lives, yet are either in prison and jails for other issues, or lead lives that more than often succumb to harder drugs. Marijuana impairs vision and depth perception, causing visual hallucinations that threaten others people's lives routinely. Potheads can not fly planes, or do other tasks requiring astute emotional, physical and intellectual capabilities. They are deluded because of the drug to BELIEVE they can, but their temporary feelings of achieving success in art, etc. are not validated by actual work, which is childish and often morally vacant. Potheads are emotionally stagnant and wake up many years later in their lives and find their chances of success and achievement have bypassed them due to drug use and self-imposed impairment. We see the exact same self-validating delusional thinking in mental wards and hospitals. Most withdrawal and psychological readjustment help done today is related to marijuana use. Most dope users are pushers and validate their own weaknesses by drawing others, especially younger persons, into their sphere of haze and daze. Legalizing, or validating marijuana use at any level except specific medicinal applications is not warranted.
This is not true nor supported by medical studies and research. Please quote your sources.
Ron Locke

Paradise, CA

#52 Oct 2, 2010
Go Blue wrote:
<quoted text> Whats wrong with you, did you buy the wrong car?
The last new car I bought ran like a Swiss Watch. A 1991 Oldsmobile that was running great when I sold it at 200,000 miles. Earlier, I bought a New 67 Mustang and later a little Fiat and a Fiat Sports Car. All were very nice cars. The fellow that sold me the Fiat Sports car was most likely a decent Human Bean. All the other car salesmen I dealt with were either sociopaths or not of the Human race.
Medical Doctor

Eureka, CA

#53 Oct 2, 2010
Cannabis is less physically addictive than caffeine, while the so-called “gateway drug” theory is a complete fantasy, and it was just recently called “half-baked” as a result of a scientific study. CNN reported that Cocaine use has dropped sharply, by 30% since 2002, which is really good news

I worked in addiction medicine for years, and this is what I can advice on the matter: Any suppression of Cannabis use will be immediately followed by an increase in alcohol/hard drug/prescription drug abuse! You don’t believe me? Then maybe you will believe the Big Alcohol lobby that is financing the Cannabis Legalization opponents for exactly this reason

Right now Cannabis is just simply perceived as a much safer alternative to alcohol/hard drugs, which is precisely how it should be perceived. To have a society in which there is NO psychoactive substance use is an illusion, and it will be good for our government to realize this. So then, it becomes a matter of “safer choices”, just like with the sex education.

And Cannabis is, without a shadow of a doubt, a much safer choice than alcohol or hard drugs! Just very recently a research study in addiction medicine has determined that Cannabis may actually serve as an “exit” substance for recovering alcoholics/hard drug addicts.

And there is another extremely important property of Cannabis that the prohibitionists would love to keep secret: Cannabis use suppresses violent urges and behaviors and, as one prestigious textbook says,“Only the unsophisticated think otherwise”.

Then, of course, there is a potential for Cannabis in chronic pain, where other drugs may be ineffective (or physically addictive), with very important potential implications for our wounded veterans, many of whom have chronic pain.

It is also worth noting that Cannabis may have certain preventative value for such devastating conditions as cancer and Alzheimer’s disease. And all this comes with no danger of overdoses or induction of a physical dependence! Let’s be very happy that the cocaine abuse rate is dropping.

Let’s not interfere with these dynamics, and then we can possibly achieve what has already been achieved in the Netherlands where the drug overdose rate is 85%(!!) lower than in the US, and that is with much more liberal Cannabis possession laws than in this country!

Maybe it is time to give up “dogma” about Cannabis, and to start listening to the experts, if we really want to lower the alcohol/hard drug use in this country, and the accompanying dependencies and overdoses!
Medical Doctor

Eureka, CA

#54 Oct 2, 2010
As a medical doctor and botanist, my aim has always been to filter out the cultural noise surrounding the genus Cannabis and see it dispassionately: as a plant with bioactivity in human beings that may have therapeutic value. From this perspective, what can it offer us?

As it turns out, a great deal. Research into possible medical uses of Cannabis is enjoying a renaissance. In recent years, studies have shown potential for treating nausea, vomiting, premenstrual syndrome, insomnia, migraines, multiple sclerosis, spinal cord injuries, alcohol abuse, collagen-induced arthritis, asthma, atherosclerosis, bipolar disorder, depression, Huntington's disease, Parkinson's disease, sickle-cell disease, sleep apnea, Alzheimer's disease and anorexia nervosa.

But perhaps most exciting, cannabinoids (chemical constituents of Cannabis, the best known being tetrahydrocannabinol or THC) may have a primary role in cancer treatment and prevention. A number of studies have shown that these compounds can inhibit tumor growth in laboratory animal models. In part, this is achieved by inhibiting angiogenesis, the formation of new blood vessels that tumors need in order to grow. What's more, cannabinoids seem to kill tumor cells without affecting surrounding normal cells. If these findings hold true as research progresses, cannabinoids would demonstrate a huge advantage over conventional chemotherapy agents, which too often destroy normal cells as well as cancer cells.

As long ago as 1975, researchers reported that cannabinoids inhibited the growth of a certain type of lung cancer cell in test tubes and in mice. Since then, laboratory studies have shown that cannabinoids have effects against tumor cells from glioblastoma (a deadly type of brain cancer) as well as those from thyroid cancer¸ leukemia/lymphoma, and skin, uterus, breast, stomach, colorectal, pancreatic and prostate cancers.

So far, the only human test of cannabinoids against cancer was performed in Spain, and was designed to determine if treatment was safe, not whether it was effective.(In studies on humans, such "phase one trials," are focused on establishing the safety of a new drug, as well as the right dosage.) In the Spanish study, reported in 2006, the dose was administered intracranially, directly into the tumors of patients with recurrent brain cancer. The investigation established the safety of the dose and showed that the compound used decreased cell proliferation in at least two of nine patients studied.

It is not clear that smoking marijuana achieves blood levels high enough to have these anticancer effects. We need more human research, including well-designed studies to find the best mode of administration.

If you want to learn more about this subject, I recommend an excellent documentary film, "What If Cannabis Cured Cancer," by Len Richmond, which summarizes the remarkable research findings of recent years. Most medical doctors are not aware of this information and its implications for cancer prevention and treatment. The film presents compelling evidence that our current policy on Cannabis is counterproductive.

After more than 70 years of misinformation about this botanical remedy, I am delighted that we are finally gaining a mature understanding of its immense therapeutic potential.

“Brain Kneader”

Since: Sep 10

EVERYWHERE

#55 Oct 2, 2010
To MedicalDocter
i think,well its just a theory but for administering it depends on what the ailment is such as brain cancer/lung cancer the best form i could think of is vaporizing since there is no tar or carcinogens to counter the benificial effects of THC through inhalation since it maybe the fastest and more effective way of recieving it and of course there are other methods of doing it such as eating it wich is a little bit slower but i think is equally effective and of course the old schoolers who love to smoke it mainly because of the taste.
Think about it

Elkton, VA

#56 Oct 3, 2010
Based on your comments, I'm sure you would also recommend going back to the days of the PROHIBITION of alcohol.

Read the statics of how many sober adults as well as children are killed on our highways of the influence of alcohol. Another statistic to look at would be how many spouses kill each other while under the influence of alcohol. Keep in mind that in my state all alcohol is sold by the state in state run stores. Does that make sense?

Does anyone have any statics of how many human beings die as a result of others under the influence of alcohol or as the result of alcohol-related illnesses?

I don't know if there are statics for how many people high on pot commit murder or suicide, cause deadly traffic accidents, etc. but my guess would be: Not many if any.

Smoking addicts and has killed millions; but it is legal for the same reason marijuana should be legal.

Deal with reality; if pot is legalized that doesn't mean you have to partake.
Think about it

Elkton, VA

#57 Oct 3, 2010
My previous post was not intended for the good doctors comments. I read something posted earlier and somehow posted out of line. To answer the question you may be thinking, No, I'm not high!

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