Man fatally shot not on drugs

Toxicology tests show a Turlock man who savagely beat and stomped his 2-year-old son to death on the side of a dark road was not using drugs.

[Miss Vicky]

Of course He was'nt "high on drugs", He was only doing what Their "Culture" considers "Normal"
I guess Us Americans have to get used to it, and "embrace Their Culture", because Our Politicians, and "Law"-enforcement really don't care about any of Us law-biding Citizens, except for the tax money.
Sad, very very sad.

[Lisa]

Well he's dead now, so maybe the story has a happy ending? Don't be sad for that man, Vicky, life goes on! But... I do feel sad for the little one. Very sad. I'm sorry.

[STABBER]

MAYBE IT WAS ONE OF THOSE mexican gang INITIATIONS ?

[Chris Hamill]

This is what happens when God is not in our lives,That poor baby will rest in the Lords arms...his dad will stand judgement. By all means lets keep pushing the bogus premise of "separation of church and state"(its NOT in the constitution) what we end up with is separation of church and soul...

[joe]

I'm sorry that this is too easy of an explanation. We can't blame all of societies ills on God not being a participant in our lives. This is an oversimplification. I am in now way denouncing religion. I feel it is an extremely important component if our society and in my family.

However, this case may actually have an extremeist religous component. There are some exrememe churches in the valley. This is not the first case of this nature. Another Child was beaten to death earlier this year where the parents claim the child was posessed. Their parish (cult, or whatever you want to call it) teaches them of evil possessing their children. Now how F**d up is that?

Let's get some real church leaders to go investigate and fix this situation.

Chris Hamill wrote:

This is what happens when God is not in our lives,That poor baby will rest in the Lords arms...his dad will stand judgement. By all means lets keep pushing the bogus premise of "separation of church and state"(its NOT in the constitution) what we end up with is separation of church and soul...

[rita]

come on,look at all the violence currently being committed in the name of some god. And as far as a victim being in god's hand or criminal being punished by thier god, get a grip. good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. Calling on a god to explain is just one's way of explaining something they can't understand and can't or, won't think out.

[rita]

sorry, forgot to add; we don't kow what happened in this tragic incident, whether brain tumor or dogma. Let further investigation be done beore drawing conclusions. if a brain tumor, or some other physical explanation, we can't blame this person. If dogma, let it serve as a reminder to always question authority and never blindly follow anyone. sad, sad case.

[Dara]

Chris Hamill wrote:

This is what happens when God is not in our lives,That poor baby will rest in the Lords arms...his dad will stand judgement. By all means lets keep pushing the bogus premise of "separation of church and state"(its NOT in the constitution) what we end up with is separation of church and soul...

You are correct. It is also sad that he did not get the chance to ask God's forgiveness which would have been granted. All inall, I believe he was broken over the separation and that his wife could go on well without him. I work with immigrants, they still think the man is the head of the household and how dare their wives not buckle under them.Living in America is difficult for them where a woman can call the shots. She was a teacher, he worked at a store. Besides, it can be quite frustrating to understand the needs of a very young child who cannot be consoled at times. The Devil had a field day breaking the family apart and ultimately destroying their lives. It's his favorite entertainment.

[Dara for Chris]

I forgot to mention that sometimes this happens when God is in our lives. The Devil works harder on those of us who recognize our need for God.

[gabe]

Miss Vicky wrote:

Of course He was'nt "high on drugs", He was only doing what Their "Culture" considers "Normal"
I guess Us Americans have to get used to it, and "embrace Their Culture", because Our Politicians, and "Law"-enforcement really don't care about any of Us law-biding Citizens, except for the tax money.
Sad, very very sad.

Dear miss Vicky. Don't be stupid dumb bi***. I feel for that little boy. As for the father god will judge. I am white but culture of race has nothing to do with the stupidity of some people.

[mdd]

I've never heard beating a kid being part of someones "culture".... Miss Vicky... or it be "normal" to beat your kid to death....
You are a racist.
How dare you say something like that.
You have no idea what you are talking about.... pure ignorance lady!

[MissDebb]

The inland areas of Northern California are full of ignorance, bigotry and fundamental christians who have a simple answer for everything and follow the neo-con creed.
It is just the kind of place you should raise your children if you want to propagate sticking your head and being intolerant to any culture other than the white culture. I am surrounded by a closed minded, uneducated, bigoted, arrogant population.
I regret the day I moved here and strive for the opportunity to move away.

[MissDebb]

P. S. "sticking your head in the sand..."

[ICE ICE BABY]

MissDebb wrote:

The inland areas of Northern California are full of ignorance, bigotry and fundamental christians who have a simple answer for everything and follow the neo-con creed.
It is just the kind of place you should raise your children if you want to propagate sticking your head and being intolerant to any culture other than the white culture. I am surrounded by a closed minded, uneducated, bigoted, arrogant population.
I regret the day I moved here and strive for the opportunity to move away.

AHEM, ARE THERE PEOPLE HOLDING YOU CAPTIVE WHERE YOU ARE PRESENTLY RESIDING?
KEEP STRIVING,BUT LOOK OUT FOR THE ILLEGAL WHOS STRIVING TO TAKE YR JOB BY WORKING FOR LESS WAGES,LESS BENEFITS,ETC.
OH,AND BY THE WAY DONT FORGET TO STRIVE TWOARDS TAKING CARE OF ALL THOSE ANCHOR BABIES WHO GET FOODSTAMPS, WIC,MEDI-CAL.YOUR HARD STRIVING PAYS FOR ALL OF THAT,AND WHEN YOU GO TO COMPLAIN,MAKE SURE YOU PRESS #! FOR ENGLISH IN AMERICA.UMMMM,K?

[slightly salty]

what an odd bunch of comments. this man must have been mentally ill if he was not on drugs, probably undiagnosed bipolar or something. have you never seen someone in a manic rage? the whole incident is just a terrible shame, and getting on your religion/immigration soapboxes over it is ridiculous.

[mdd]

MOVE AWAY MISS DEBB.... FAR FAR FAR AWAY!!!

[Just me]

Sorry but our culture isnt like this what about the white american that beated the dog!!! And No he wasnt in a gang and leave him alone.. Please.. you dont know what he was going trough that caused him this.. I know it's wrong what he did and he could have taken another decission but leave him alone.. His dead already!

[PRESS 1 FOR ENGLISH]

Just me wrote:

Sorry but our culture isnt like this what about the white american that beated the dog!!! And No he wasnt in a gang and leave him alone.. Please.. you dont know what he was going trough that caused him this.. I know it's wrong what he did and he could have taken another decission but leave him alone.. His dead already!

PLEASE CONSULT A DICTIONARY BEFORE MANGLING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO CONSTRUCT A SENTENCE AND PROPER USE OF WORDS.REMEMBER, WHEN IN DOUBT....STFU.

[Just me]

PRESS 1 FOR English. I don't need any opinion or advice from you. You have no idea what the family is going through and if you were in this situation you will shut your big blubber mouth.. So please have some respect Racacist is what you are and what you are full of.

[Just me]

Miss Debb. If you don't like it you could just move away far far away where you will be happy. I bet people don't even notice you or know who you are.. (what i'm trying to say is no one knows who you are they dont know about your existance)