White friends and the N()WORD
IGottaQuestion

Evansville, IN

#46 Feb 15, 2013
I think I saw some guy on 'Shahs of Sunset' use the N word during a scene and it brought up a convo I had with my Persian friend recently. Have any of you all noticed Middle Eastern people (inc. DJ Khaled, French Montana) using the N-word?

Is it okay because some of them are from Africa (e.g. Egypt)?
Nina

Evansville, IN

#47 Feb 15, 2013
IGottaQuestion wrote:
I think I saw some guy on 'Shahs of Sunset' use the N word during a scene and it brought up a convo I had with my Persian friend recently. Have any of you all noticed Middle Eastern people (inc. DJ Khaled, French Montana) using the N-word?
Is it okay because some of them are from Africa (e.g. Egypt)?
Some of my Persian, Syrian and Egyptian associates have told me either they have used the word in the past or have family members who have used it.

I have never called another human being that word. I never heard my parents using the word to describe another black person. It is vile. I don't even use the word in jest. I don't have a problem with listening to a comedian like Chris Rock use it in his act. I also don't buy into this BS that urban youth have "gain control" of the word by using it. It is delusions of grandeur when I hear teenagers say that have "taken the word" back from the slave master.

I am ambivalent listening to a hip hop artist singing a great song but using that word. I enjoy the song but feel guilty I am enjoying a song with that word in it along with any other derogatory words in it.
Maya

Evansville, IN

#48 Feb 15, 2013
I don't know any middle easterns but I know Asians use very it often.

There is this guy I know from school who is Saudi Arabian and we are acquaintances, so I have him as a Blackberry contact. I remember one time this fool updated his status saying "Yeah, n****" or some crazy bullshit like that and I stared at his status for a good 5 minutes wondering "what the actual feck?"

It rubbed me in the wrongest way! I really wanted to delete him off my phone then and there but then I remembered he probably has that oil money so he might come in handy for something like networking someday . Shallow I know.
lol

United States

#49 Feb 15, 2013
Nina wrote:
It's fcked up and I think it's stupid and offensive. I'll admit, I get less offended when my own race does it (for some reason, can't explain it, it's just less anger) compared to other races.
White dudes on my campus say that shit to the other white dudes in their clique and I always turn around and stare at them. They.don't.even.bat. a.lash. They don't care.
Black dudes and puertorican dudes saying it seems to have less damage on me than a caucasian saying it & it doesn't matter if the caucasian ISN'T racist.
because your ignorant from where and how you got here. Africans that were pows from tribal wars were sold to white settlers. P O As that would have been killed in battle. Want to point a finger point it back at your self.
lol

United States

#50 Feb 15, 2013
Typo p o ws. I'm sorry it just pisses me off that the white man takes all the blame for slavery. If you think about it they bough your life. They would have been killed.
tetra

United States

#51 Feb 15, 2013
i know a young lady who straight up thinks shes a nazi and shell say, "he wouldnt quit starin at me ao i had to call him a n*****. id love to see him go up with my mma fighting boyfriend"
...i would love to see her 5'2 boyfriend take out his mouthpiece and go up against ANY black man.

i cannot believe this ignorance.
im white and i get a sick feeling when this broad talks like that.

race is a made up thing, i dont believe in it.
unity.
one love.
WhatIThink

Evansville, IN

#52 Feb 20, 2013
My thing is this, no one should say the word, period. With the "a" ending, or "er" ending. It's tasteless. However, if you're black, and you call yourself and each other the word with the "a" ending, I personally don't see how you can get offended if someone else of another race uses that word as well. You can't pick and choose when to get offended.

It's just best no one says it at all.
Miss Sinatra

Evansville, IN

#54 Mar 6, 2013
I view black people who sit around and call themselves and each other that word, lower than low. But then again, they already know that, and will whoop anybody's ass who tries to put them back on par with other human beings.
GottaBeKidding

Darby, PA

#55 Mar 6, 2013
For the few pulling the whole "we were slaves" bullshit....

You honestly think blacks were the only ones ever enslaved? You think you are owed something? Really?! That sense of entitlement is bullshit. My family history of slavery, pain and suffering is much more recent. I lost family in WWII in death camps. I don't sit here bitching about it. It hurts still knowing it happened but it's over. It's done. Bitching won't bring children back. I guess since I had family enslaved, beaten, tortured, gassed or shot to death I deserve money from the people who did it! Money or some kind of higher social status, right? No.
Or how about the other side of my family... Sicilians. They came without papers. We were treated like shit then too. But guess what? My grandfather still loved his county and enlisted. He was a Captain in the Navy when he retired. Do I mope and whine about how my family was treated? No. Its over with. I love my country.
You expect to be rewarded for others pain and suffering. That's sick and twisted. It's exploitation at its finest. You did not have pain or go through it.... why should you be treated like you did?!? You are ignorant, selfish, And pathetic for that.
GottaBeKidding

Darby, PA

#56 Mar 6, 2013
Quick history lesson... slave trade was started by a black man.
college kid

Newburgh, IN

#58 Mar 7, 2013
GottaBeKidding wrote:
Quick history lesson... slave trade was started by a black man.
Agreed. These people just want something to bitch about. I hope y'all know your own people sold you to the Americans. So "technically" they made you property first. We just bought what was offered to us.
hhhhmmmm

United States

#59 Mar 7, 2013
college kid wrote:
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Agreed. These people just want something to bitch about. I hope y'all know your own people sold you to the Americans. So "technically" they made you property first. We just bought what was offered to us.
So this makes it ok? "Us"? Huh do you own slaves? Hhhhmmm I think not.
lol

United States

#60 Mar 7, 2013
IGottaQuestion wrote:
I think I saw some guy on 'Shahs of Sunset' use the N word during a scene and it brought up a convo I had with my Persian friend recently. Have any of you all noticed Middle Eastern people (inc. DJ Khaled, French Montana) using the N-word?
Is it okay because some of them are from Africa (e.g. Egypt)?
so let me get this straight. If my white kids are born in Africa they can use the word.
hhhhmmmm

United States

#61 Mar 7, 2013
Yes, slavery is over. Thank God for that.
but black people are still targeted by organizations in order to keep us from progressing. In the 50's those before us died and went through hell to fight against hatred and jim crow. In the 70s although most were poor, black people started to make progress. Those in power didn't like this so in the 80s black ghettos were targeted for the sale and use of crack cocaine by the CIA. Black people became slaves to drug addiction and/ or tempted by fast money to become their own slave master aka the dope dealer. In the late 80s the Reagan administration declared a "war against drugs". This put a lot of black men in prison with elongated sentences for the sale or possession of crack cocaine. This is still happening today. In the 90's mass media began to glamorize california street gangs through rap music with the group NWA. This was followed by films like boyz in the hood and menace to society. These were the role models for young black boys because they had no one else to look up to. Their fathers were either dead or in prison. In result of this black on black crime was at an all time high! Black progress was stagnated. We were programmed to think that in order to be a man we have to be a gangster, killer, or hardened criminal. Some black men still think this way. In the late 90s there was a small bit of progress. Gang violence died down and the use of crack became less popular. In the 2000s a new program was released... The bling bling era. How could this be bad? All the black men that idolized rappers were now spending the families money on flashy cars and clothes. Being that there were mostly single parent homes black women were targeted as well. Music began to glamorize being a whore. Music and television are powerful tools. Now in the 2010s we are all black and white are being programmed to worship celebrity and the wealthy. We sit and watch others be fabulous while we live poorly. The sad thing is that no one sees this. We spend our hard owned money to buy things to make us look and feel fabulous. The joke is on us! The rich get these things for free! There is a clear agenda to separate the rich and the poor. This will continue in the future. Soon there will be no middle class.
ghost

United States

#62 Mar 7, 2013
So... Not only is slavery to be blamed for the hardships, but the government, Hollywood, and celebrities, in general?? Are you F**KING KIDDING ME?? It seems that you blame absolutely everybody except the black community for its problems. Good lord, how many more directions can you possibly direct blame?? Here is an idea for you. Slavery is over, Jim crow laws are gone, now its on you to sink or swim.. Stop playing victim, its bullcrap. Next you will blame u.f.o. exhaust for turning your skin black and scorching your hair. Yea, that's why black people are underachieving. If they didn't have to spend all damn day picking thru that u.f.o. scorched hair, they would have time to focus on making themselves better..
agreed!

Newburgh, IN

#63 Mar 7, 2013
ghost wrote:
So... Not only is slavery to be blamed for the hardships, but the government, Hollywood, and celebrities, in general?? Are you F**KING KIDDING ME?? It seems that you blame absolutely everybody except the black community for its problems. Good lord, how many more directions can you possibly direct blame?? Here is an idea for you. Slavery is over, Jim crow laws are gone, now its on you to sink or swim.. Stop playing victim, its bullcrap. Next you will blame u.f.o. exhaust for turning your skin black and scorching your hair. Yea, that's why black people are underachieving. If they didn't have to spend all damn day picking thru that u.f.o. scorched hair, they would have time to focus on making themselves better..
Well said.
hhhhmmmm

United States

#64 Mar 7, 2013
These are facts. You need to do you research and get over yourself and your high thinking.
hhhhmmmm

United States

#65 Mar 7, 2013
ghost wrote:
So... Not only is slavery to be blamed for the hardships, but the government, Hollywood, and celebrities, in general?? Are you F**KING KIDDING ME?? It seems that you blame absolutely everybody except the black community for its problems. Good lord, how many more directions can you possibly direct blame?? Here is an idea for you. Slavery is over, Jim crow laws are gone, now its on you to sink or swim.. Stop playing victim, its bullcrap. Next you will blame u.f.o. exhaust for turning your skin black and scorching your hair. Yea, that's why black people are underachieving. If they didn't have to spend all damn day picking thru that u.f.o. scorched hair, they would have time to focus on making themselves better..
I am not pointing the finger. I am explaining black culture in relation to the diffusion of innovations theory. Which is how a specific culture develops new ideas.
You are right. It is sink or swim. I believe that your goal is to say that black people are inferior to white people and that's why we have not made progress. It is ok for you to think this way because it is your perception of the world. As they say opinions are like assholes....but just because you think something doesn't make it true
ghost

New Albany, IN

#66 Mar 7, 2013
hhhhmmmm wrote:
These are facts. You need to do you research and get over yourself and your high thinking.
nowhere did i try to say whites were superior to blacks. i feel sorry for the kid that grows up without proper fitting shoes, without clothes to keep them warm, without enough food to eat. that isnt a choice, thats a child growing up in an atmosphere that he/she has no control over. when a grown ass man/woman chooses to live in filthy neighborhoods with no desire to better themselves, i feel no sorrow. at some point in their lives, they either decided to continue to live in those conditions, or lack the grit to claw their way out. today, in 2013, the most racism comes FROM the black community.. i havent taken a damn thing from anyone. i havent kicked anybody down to bring myself up. i have tried to better myself for all of my 40+ years, and still struggle, but i dont need someone to BLAME.. everybody CAN do better for themselves when they become responsible for their own actions, but as long as people like yourself continue to toss crutches and excuses to those that choose to live life with a victim mentality, the ones that dont want more will place blame... my theory is as follows.. keep yourself out of trouble, stay drug free, strive to better yourself, get a job or an education, and climb out of the "poor me" mentality..
lol

United States

#68 Mar 7, 2013
hhhhmmmm wrote:
Yes, slavery is over. Thank God for that.
but black people are still targeted by organizations in order to keep us from progressing. In the 50's those before us died and went through hell to fight against hatred and jim crow. In the 70s although most were poor, black people started to make progress. Those in power didn't like this so in the 80s black ghettos were targeted for the sale and use of crack cocaine by the CIA. Black people became slaves to drug addiction and/ or tempted by fast money to become their own slave master aka the dope dealer. In the late 80s the Reagan administration declared a "war against drugs". This put a lot of black men in prison with elongated sentences for the sale or possession of crack cocaine. This is still happening today. In the 90's mass media began to glamorize california street gangs through rap music with the group NWA. This was followed by films like boyz in the hood and menace to society. These were the role models for young black boys because they had no one else to look up to. Their fathers were either dead or in prison. In result of this black on black crime was at an all time high! Black progress was stagnated. We were programmed to think that in order to be a man we have to be a gangster, killer, or hardened criminal. Some black men still think this way. In the late 90s there was a small bit of progress. Gang violence died down and the use of crack became less popular. In the 2000s a new program was released... The bling bling era. How could this be bad? All the black men that idolized rappers were now spending the families money on flashy cars and clothes. Being that there were mostly single parent homes black women were targeted as well. Music began to glamorize being a whore. Music and television are powerful tools. Now in the 2010s we are all black and white are being programmed to worship celebrity and the wealthy. We sit and watch others be fabulous while we live poorly. The sad thing is that no one sees this. We spend our hard owned money to buy things to make us look and feel fabulous. The joke is on us! The rich get these things for free! There is a clear agenda to separate the rich and the poor. This will continue in the future. Soon there will be no middle class.
you are so full of shit it's not even funny. This is what I hear " I'm lazy and small minded that I let others decide my out come." this is just sad.what I see is black people wanting to take the easy way through life. This does not apply to all but the majority. If you do nothing you will become nothing. That simple. No one is going to give you a hand out. If you want something work for it. GROW THE FUCK UP AND EVOLVE.

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