Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#32404 Aug 5, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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What I've been hearing is that this one is too close to call.
I know you aren't an engineer, but here's the deal: I give you a standard 12" ruler, and ask you to measure an inch. How close will you get?
This particular ruler is smudged pretty badly. Every time you measure that inch it's not quite the same.
Now, instead of inches, you are measuring political opinion.
The best this particular ruler can do is +/- 3.6%. Which is fine when the differences you are measuring are 20 or 30 percent. But it starts to get a bit dicey when the differences are closer to 10% or less.
When the difference is only 2%, this particular ruler just can't discriminate a difference that tiny.
That's what makes a horse race, and, based on this poll, it's a dead heat.
someone who cared about accuracy would use a micrometer for exact measurements.

Guessing like liberals seem to always do, almost always have reverse outcome desired occur.

Being precise and exact is always better than guessing.

Utilizing a ruler with smudged indicators when digital precise equipment is readily available is not good science.

In 2014 mid term elections expect a lot of firing of incumbents. I predict Harry Reid is no longer Senate leader, and lots of Freshman realizing they were elected to fix what is broken or be fired at next opportunity helps repair broken Washington DC.

woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#32405 Aug 5, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Agreed. I don't put any good money on polls especially this far away from an election because anything could happen. We might suffer another terrorists attack. Our economy might improve greatly which I suspect might be the case because our company is busy as hell and talking with other drivers, their companies are busy too. We could have an outbreak of diseases traced back to one of these kids jumping over our border. Anything could happen.
But what I don't expect to happen is a close race in the next election. I don't see a 50/50 win for both Republicans and Democrats. I see a loss for Democrats, it's just a matter of how bad they will lose.
Like those 'ebola' claims the far right is spewing out? The usual fear tactic, which is mainly all they have. Just one fine example, and there's more:
www.politifact.com
DR Rep. Phil Gingrey statement.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32406 Aug 5, 2014
Making a list of who I hope gets it.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#32407 Aug 5, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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Guessing ... almost always have reverse outcome desired occur.
There might be something to that, for some folks. The last election, you guessed President Romney, right?
Reality Speaks wrote:
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In 2014 mid term elections expect a lot of firing of incumbents. I predict Harry Reid is no longer Senate leader, and lots of Freshman realizing they were elected to fix what is broken or be fired at next opportunity helps repair broken Washington DC.
Your guesses have been noted!
Canton

Canton, OH

#32408 Aug 5, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Maybe you should read all the posts before responding. I told Old Guy I was no expert at the Bible or religion.
We have several governing authorities also known as the separation of powers. How many times have YOU disrespected our Republican leaders in Congress...... you know, those people you call racist all the time?
Unfortunately, God didn't put in our governing authority, leaches on social programs did.
So when you claim God doesn't want us to use abortion, and it's not in the Bible, you are...? That's right. You are personally claiming to know the exact will of an unseen and unproven god. My point still stands, despite your blabbering misunderstandings. As far as me "disrespecting" anyone in Congress, I would first have to care about the people in Congress. I know. Let's pretend that there were hundreds of corporate sponsored emails being sent out to denounce Bush during his reign of terror, like we have seen with the Tea Party. Never happened. Now, show me something the Dems claimed during the Bush years that is anything close to being as absurd as Obamacare Death Panels and make sure you have Liberals as prominent as Newt Gingrich is to the Conservatives, agreeing with the nonsense. You guys can tell yourselves you are the "silent majority" all day long. Americans are sick of you and your Tea Bagging racist buddies and like I have stated before, nobody is fooled by your real motivations. Name something Obama did that outrages Conservatives and I'll show you something the Conservative demigod Reagan did even more. I called you a bunch of racists before you guys called Obama racist names. I stated this was all just a corporate agenda using religion before Hobby Lobby played it's little games. The difference between my claims and your Obamacare Death Panels is that I was dead on correct and you and yours are the fodder for long standing and very popular political comedy shows.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32409 Aug 5, 2014
The death panels were directed toward IPAB, but of course you knew that already.

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Racist? What a bunch of bullshit.
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Same game is going to be played by them for Hillary only they will call it sexist if you say anything negative about that biotch you will be a woman hater.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32410 Aug 5, 2014
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#32411 Aug 5, 2014
ino wrote:
The death panels were directed toward IPAB, but of course you knew that already.
That was much later. Originally, Sarah Palin was pretty vague about what she meant exactly, and then pointed to Section 1233 of Obamacare:

""Death panel" is a political term that originated during the 2009 debate about federal health care legislation to cover the uninsured in the United States. The term was coined in August 2009 by Sarah Palin, the former Republican Governor of Alaska, when she charged that the proposed legislation would create a "death panel" of bureaucrats who would decide whether Americans—such as her elderly parents or children with Down syndrome—were "worthy of medical care". Palin's claim, however, was debunked, and it has been referred to as the "death panel myth",[1] as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health care.[2] Palin's spokesperson pointed to Section 1233 of bill HR 3200 which would have paid physicians for providing voluntary counseling to Medicare patients about living wills, advance directives, and end-of-life care options."

"Sarah Palin, who had been keeping a low profile after her July 3, 2009, resignation announcement as Alaska's Governor,[15][20] was the first to use the "death panel" term on August 7, 2009. In her first Facebook note, she said:[21][22][23]

[G]overnment health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.[24]

Though Palin's post did not identify a portion of legislation she believed mandated "death panels",[25] a spokesperson pointed to HR 3200, Section 1233,[26][27][28] and Palin herself followed up in an August 12 Facebook note clarifying her argument by discussing Section 1233.[25] However, neither Section 1233 nor any other provision in any health care bill provided for a system to determine if individuals were worthy of health care.[2]"

Later, she mentioned what would become the IPAB:

"Palin expanded her "death panel" attack to target the precursor of the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB), a potential cost-cutting mechanism for Medicare, in September 2009.[116][117] After the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform released its recommendation to strengthen the IPAB, which had passed as part of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), she later charged that the board was " 'death panel'-like".[118] FactCheck found her characterization of the board wrong on three counts.[119]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_panel
bvugfgh

Georgetown, OH

#32412 Aug 5, 2014
check that
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32413 Aug 5, 2014
Canton wrote:
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So when you claim God doesn't want us to use abortion, and it's not in the Bible, you are...? That's right. You are personally claiming to know the exact will of an unseen and unproven god. My point still stands, despite your blabbering misunderstandings. As far as me "disrespecting" anyone in Congress, I would first have to care about the people in Congress. I know. Let's pretend that there were hundreds of corporate sponsored emails being sent out to denounce Bush during his reign of terror, like we have seen with the Tea Party. Never happened. Now, show me something the Dems claimed during the Bush years that is anything close to being as absurd as Obamacare Death Panels
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#32414 Aug 5, 2014
He ran as the libertarian candidate. What do you mean by foreign policy, trade pacts?
Old Guy wrote:
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He seemed like an OK guy when I briefly saw him during the first Republican debate. He struck me as a reasonable fiscal conservative. But his lack of experience in international affairs troubled me. And I didn't think he stood a chance in the Republican race with his views on the legalization of marijuana.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32415 Aug 5, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Like those 'ebola' claims the far right is spewing out? The usual fear tactic, which is mainly all they have. Just one fine example, and there's more:
www.politifact.com
DR Rep. Phil Gingrey statement.
Why don't you find a water drinking contest in Toledo somewhere troll?
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#32418 Aug 5, 2014
Gary Johnson at the 2012 Republican debates:

Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#32419 Aug 6, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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There might be something to that, for some folks. The last election, you guessed President Romney, right?
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Your guesses have been noted!
the people who did not vote in 2012 have remorse for not doing so.

The media effectively convinced people there was no point in doing so, and the GOP had a candidate where campaigning was a weakness.

In 2014 the people are fizzed off at everyone.

Expect a mass firing this fall.

Harry Reid will no longer be Senate Majority leader, and I hope Boehner also loses his chair.

The federal government needs shrank by 50%, and our borders require serious protection. Foreign aide needs spent in America's infrastructure, and education completely changed from today's operating procedures.

A flat tax needs implemented for both individual and corporate. Social Security and medicare need to be fundamentally changed as well.

instead of 50% of USA citizens being on subsidies and not paying taxes, we need to fix that by plenty of jobs that are careers for the citizens. When that 50% number of takers becomes 20% due to solid employment, then America is moving in the correct direction.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#32420 Aug 6, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Why don't you find a water drinking contest in Toledo somewhere troll?
You just hate facts that show how uninformed you really are. Speaking of drinking water:

muncievoice.com/11515/industrial-farms-water-...
Canton

Canton, OH

#32421 Aug 6, 2014
ino wrote:
The death panels were directed toward IPAB, but of course you knew that already.
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Racist? What a bunch of bullshit.
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Same game is going to be played by them for Hillary only they will call it sexist if you say anything negative about that biotch you will be a woman hater.
But then for some strange reason, you overlooked the FACT that PornTruckerXXX called Obama "Wild man mulatto" and Reality Squeaks called our president "Obammy" on this very forum. So basically you are just another defensive racist trying to tell us to ignore the obvious racist comments because the real problem you guys have with Obama is his birth certificate...I mean his Christian preacher...I mean that he is a Muslim...I mean he took all our guns away...I mean...

Save it clown. ALL of America knows you guys are a bunch of racist hasbeens, no matter how much you tell us otherwise.

I'll tell you what "same game" will be played if Hillary gets in. "We need to impeach her!", "Socialist blah blah blah", "Commie blah blah blah..." "She's gonna take all our guns away blah blah blah..."

Now go ahead and click on your Start button, followed by "Shutdown"...because that's what I just did to your stupid ass.
Canton

Canton, OH

#32422 Aug 6, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =OGnE83A1Z4UXX
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Canton

Canton, OH

#32423 Aug 6, 2014
ino wrote:
The death panels were directed toward IPAB, but of course you knew that already.
.
Racist? What a bunch of bullshit.
.
Same game is going to be played by them for Hillary only they will call it sexist if you say anything negative about that biotch you will be a woman hater.
Look at that Tea Bagger spin. We'll file your first desperate and defensive comment under "WRONG" but then you already knew that. Now tell us more how you personally have sided with the team that gave us such absurd claims as "Obamacare Death Panels".

Just be sure to keep your weird little oil cult for Jesus away from the American children.
OVER4hrERECTIONg uy

Mount Vernon, OH

#32424 Aug 6, 2014
"Wild man mulatto" haz never bin popular in mainstream ohio ann americhia' in general.....Baby!

"Wild man mulatto" loss more duh 2nd tyme round even width Romney takin' 72 uv ohighaz' 88 kountez......"Wild man mulatto" only got 16

duh 16 ohighaha kountiez dat have awl doze homosexual pedoze w/12 kidz whoe don't noe whoe dare daddyeezz r...?....."Wild man mulatto" lost springfiend again (werst din duh 1ss tyme)

"Wild man mulatto" loss 72 uv 88 kountezzzz

FAIL

OVER4hrERECTIONguy
Canton

Canton, OH

#32425 Aug 6, 2014
OVER4hrERECTIONguy wrote:
"Wild man mulatto" haz never bin popular in mainstream ohio ann americhia' in general.....Baby!
"Wild man mulatto" loss more duh 2nd tyme round even width Romney takin' 72 uv ohighaz' 88 kountez......"Wild man mulatto" only got 16
duh 16 ohighaha kountiez dat have awl doze homosexual pedoze w/12 kidz whoe don't noe whoe dare daddyeezz r...?....."Wild man mulatto" lost springfiend again (werst din duh 1ss tyme)
"Wild man mulatto" loss 72 uv 88 kountezzzz
FAIL
OVER4hrERECTIONguy
Well, let's see... Judging by your responses the last time someone stopped in and spewed a bunch of racist ignorant right winger crap, I'm guessing by the way your Tea Party sanctioned anti-death panel tinfoil hats are glowing, that this guy is a Liberal plant, sent to make you guys look like a bunch of racist morons.

We'll let the voice of the Tea Party's true feelings sum up the definition of failure while at the same time answering the question of whether or not you guys are really just a bunch of cousin humping, Bible thumping, toddler loving racists. According to what every American has already known for some time...yep. You Tea Baggers don't like him because he's black. Case closed. Next?

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