Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
seriously

Chillicothe, OH

#24516 Jan 25, 2014
fingiswold wrote:
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LOL! Exactly, because it's a democracy, we decide those things by vote...:)
/facepalm

Since: Aug 12

Acworth, GA

#24517 Jan 25, 2014
Van Wert has no clue as to how ignorant he sounds. His whole town is the same way too.

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24518 Jan 25, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't know that a car would be a big ticket item unless you're talking about a Hummer or something in that category. I meant like second/vacation homes, perhaps a house valued over $350,000, maybe an in-ground swimming pool and things like that.
It would have to be on a sliding scale that both parties could be satisfied with. However we would have to consider all the people that would lose work such as tax preparers, IRS people, tax software companies, tax courts and companies like H&R Block. There are hundreds of thousands of people that depend on our complicated tax system.
GRAPHIC: Southern California's housing recovery
The median home price across the state rose 22.1% from a year earlier, to $364,000, in the fourth quarter of 2013, a steep rise driven in large part by investors and families fighting over a shortage of homes for sale. For homeowners who are nearing foreclosure and underwater (meaning they owe more on their mortgage than the house is worth), that appreciation means they are less likely to walk away, Walsh said.

http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-m...

The median price for a New York City home in 2013 rose just two percent year-over-year to $475,000, according to data from StreetEasy, but the price changes in individual neighborhoods were far more pronounced.

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2014/01/24/soho-u...

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24519 Jan 25, 2014
fingiswold wrote:
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LOL! Exactly, because it's a democracy, we decide those things by vote...:)
Errrr..NO.

It, being the United States of America is a REPUBLIC. The United States is NOT a Democracy!!!!!!!

Again, and say this slowly; the USA is a Representative Republic.That is why we do NOT have majority / mob rule.

It's a fairly simple concept actually, that I learned in elementary school; but then you are obviously a low information obama voter.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24520 Jan 25, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
I agree with everything you post here, but like Reagan said, if you can get more than half of what you want, you're doing a pretty good job.
To be honest, I don't think anybody will ever change the tax code Republican or Democrat. True, they both "say" they want to do something, but never do when the opportunity presents itself be it DumBama and an all Democrat House or Bush with an all Republican House. It just never happens.
But if anybody would try to change the taxation in this country, it would have to meet approval of both parties. That being said, a somewhat progressive tax structure is something Democrats can work with. They would never work with everybody paying the same rate because by their standards, it would disproportionately favor the wealthy.
GW Bush and the republican-controlled House & Senate worked with the democrats for six years. What did it get them? How did it benefit the nation? Remember: When you reach across the aisle to democrats, you pull back a bloody stump. These are people who support the killing of unborn babies. They're not going to have your back, once they get what they want from you.

We don't elect people so they can go to Washington and get along with everyone. We elect them to go to Washington and do what they promised to do. I don't care if my representative is the only person on the face of the planet who thinks ObamaCare should be repealed. He campaigned against OC. I expect him to vote against any bill that funds it, and vote for any bill that repeals it. If he does anything different than that, he's broken his word.

Do you think the founders would have levied a heavier tax on one group of citizens more than another? Do you think they would want unelected, unaccountable bureaucracies like the EPA to make laws?

It's vital for us to take the Senate in 2014 and the WH in 2016. I have no interest in working with anyone who doesn't have the country's best interest in mind, because to do that is to harm the country further.

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#24521 Jan 25, 2014
Seems to me that nobody has this nations best interest in mind. Greed and a false sense of power give rise to self promotion as opposed to doing what's right for this country. Been this way since Kennedy was killed, America s gone into the crapper since then.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#24522 Jan 25, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
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Errrr..NO.
It, being the United States of America is a REPUBLIC. The United States is NOT a Democracy!!!!!!!
Again, and say this slowly; the USA is a Representative Republic.That is why we do NOT have majority / mob rule.
It's a fairly simple concept actually, that I learned in elementary school; but then you are obviously a low information obama voter.
Maybe what you learned in elementary school was incomplete. Just because we have a representative form of government, does not mean it is not a democracy. Here's the definition of "democracy" from dictionary.com :

"de·moc·ra·cy
noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies.
1.
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2.
a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democr...

You are probably confusing the general term "democracy" with the more specific "direct democracy" or "pure democracy."
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#24523 Jan 25, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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Do you think the founders would have levied a heavier tax on one group of citizens more than another?
Yes. People were taxed on their personal property. Those with more property (the wealthy) paid more taxes.

"Following the American Revolution, this tax was replaced by taxes on items of moveable personal property, such as on slaves, livestock, and some luxury items. This is the origin of the modern Virginia personal property tax system."

http://www.lva.virginia.gov/public/guides/va2...
Super Mutt wrote:
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Do you think they would want unelected, unaccountable bureaucracies like the EPA to make laws?
It's vital for us to take the Senate in 2014 and the WH in 2016.
Yeah, who was the liberal President that created the EPA by executive order?

"Reorganization Plan No. 3 (35 F.R. 15623, 84 Stat. 2086) was an executive order submitted to the United States Congress on July 9, 1970 by President Richard Nixon establishing the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and setting forth the components of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reorganization_P...

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24524 Jan 25, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Maybe what you learned in elementary school was incomplete. Just because we have a representative form of government, does not mean it is not a democracy. Here's the definition of "democracy" from dictionary.com :
"de·moc·ra·cy
noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies.
1.
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2.
a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democr...
You are probably confusing the general term "democracy" with the more specific "direct democracy" or "pure democracy."
With all due respect sir: you are incorrect and so is your dictionary.......

http://lmgtfy.com/...

"AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS"

here is an interesting read......
http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvsde...

For instance: If the United States were a Democracy.
There would never have been a civil rights amendment.
Women would not have the right to vote.
etc.etc.

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24525 Jan 25, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Maybe what you learned in elementary school was incomplete. Just because we have a representative form of government, does not mean it is not a democracy. Here's the definition of "democracy" from dictionary.com :
"de·moc·ra·cy
noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies.
1.
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2.
a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democr...
You are probably confusing the general term "democracy" with the more specific "direct democracy" or "pure democracy."
The distinction between our Republic and a democracy is not an idle one. It has great legal significance.
The Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government (Art. 4, Sec. 4). No state may join the United States unless it is a Republic. Our Republic is one dedicated to "liberty and justice for all." Minority individual rights are the priority. The people have natural rights instead of civil rights. The people are protected by the Bill of Rights from the majority. One vote in a jury can stop all of the majority from depriving any one of the people of his rights; this would not be so if the United States were a democracy.(see People's rights vs Citizens' rights)

In a pure democracy 51 beats 49[%]. In a democracy there is no such thing as a significant minority: there are no minority rights except civil rights (privileges) granted by a condescending majority. Only five of the U.S. Constitution's first ten amendments apply to Citizens of the United States. Simply stated, a democracy is a dictatorship of the majority. Socrates was executed by a democracy: though he harmed no one, the majority found him intolerable.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24526 Jan 25, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
Yes. People were taxed on their personal property. Those with more property (the wealthy) paid more taxes.
Not at the federal level. The states could do whatever they wanted, and were like little countries in and of themselves. Some even had religions established in their constitutions. The states' right to govern themselves essentially ended with the passage of the 14th Amendment, George Mason had been concerned about that very thing during the debates in the Constitutional Convention.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/bor/fed-an...

The federal govt was created to bring a sense of stability and legitimacy to the nation, as well as to handle international concerns and to provide protection from threats. It was never intended to be a leviathan with unlimited power, that's controlled by unelected, faceless bureaucrats. The states, who had just fought to free themselves from an oppressive govt, would have never signed their rights away. They barely agreed to ratify the Constitution as it was, because they were so afraid of a central govt. If they could see what our govt has become, they would probably think King George wasn't so bad. At least he was an ocean away.

There was no personal income tax levied until 1861.
Yeah, who was the liberal President that created the EPA by executive order?
I didn't ask what a 20th-century crook would do, I asked what the founders would do.
Ross Perot

Ashburn, VA

#24527 Jan 26, 2014
Ross Perot
Anonymous

Dublin, OH

#24528 Jan 26, 2014
Top 'of the morning. Just a quick note to let you know that OBAMA SUCKS today even worse than yesterday.
mike

Wooster, OH

#24530 Jan 26, 2014
Oh bammyis Tyrees daddy. He don't know who his mammy B..

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24531 Jan 26, 2014
Helen Roper wrote:
Top 'of the morning. Just a quick note to let you know that OBAMA SUCKS today even worse than yesterday.
And the forecast is grim. Keep us posted.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#24533 Jan 26, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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Do you listen to Limbaugh, or are you just parroting what your masters tell you to?
No I don't, I'm a little to smart to listen and drool over the crap that comes out of that proven to be a liar umpteen times mouth. Only stupid idiots hang onto every word that that immoral buffoon spews out of his mouth every day.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#24534 Jan 26, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Van Wert has no clue as to how ignorant he sounds. His whole town is the same way too.
Wow, such insight from someone smack dab in the middle of Jethro McOnetooth land.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#24535 Jan 26, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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Not at the federal level. The states could do whatever they wanted, and were like little countries in and of themselves. Some even had religions established in their constitutions. The states' right to govern themselves essentially ended with the passage of the 14th Amendment, George Mason had been concerned about that very thing during the debates in the Constitutional Convention.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/bor/fed-an...
The federal govt was created to bring a sense of stability and legitimacy to the nation, as well as to handle international concerns and to provide protection from threats. It was never intended to be a leviathan with unlimited power, that's controlled by unelected, faceless bureaucrats. The states, who had just fought to free themselves from an oppressive govt, would have never signed their rights away. They barely agreed to ratify the Constitution as it was, because they were so afraid of a central govt. If they could see what our govt has become, they would probably think King George wasn't so bad. At least he was an ocean away.
There was no personal income tax levied until 1861.
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I didn't ask what a 20th-century crook would do, I asked what the founders would do.
Something like the first healthcare law 'An Act For The Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen', put in July, 1798.
seriously

Chillicothe, OH

#24536 Jan 26, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at the federal level. The states could do whatever they wanted, and were like little countries in and of themselves. Some even had religions established in their constitutions. The states' right to govern themselves essentially ended with the passage of the 14th Amendment, George Mason had been concerned about that very thing during the debates in the Constitutional Convention.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/bor/fed-an...
The federal govt was created to bring a sense of stability and legitimacy to the nation, as well as to handle international concerns and to provide protection from threats. It was never intended to be a leviathan with unlimited power, that's controlled by unelected, faceless bureaucrats. The states, who had just fought to free themselves from an oppressive govt, would have never signed their rights away. They barely agreed to ratify the Constitution as it was, because they were so afraid of a central govt. If they could see what our govt has become, they would probably think King George wasn't so bad. At least he was an ocean away.
There was no personal income tax levied until 1861.
^^This^^ Perfectly stated.

And the federal government uses tax money to put the states in a financial headlock forcing policy. This is not how it was supposed to be.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24537 Jan 26, 2014
joanna50 wrote:
Seems to me that nobody has this nations best interest in mind. Greed and a false sense of power give rise to self promotion as opposed to doing what's right for this country. Been this way since Kennedy was killed, America s gone into the crapper since then.
I think throughout America's history, most politicians have been self-serving. But the citizenry was different then. They were scrappy and self-sufficient, and they took pride in their heritage. They wouldn't have tolerated what we have now.

I believe FDR really started our descent, by taking advantage of people's suffering during the Depression. After he pushed Social Security through the courts, people began to get conditioned to think they weren't able to sufficiently provide for themselves ... Big Brother needed to make sure they had their finances in order by helping them save and issuing checks to them when they grew old. Then Big Brother needed to issue other people's money to them when they were down on their luck. Then it needed to take care of their children's health. Then it needed to pay for their abortions and birth control. Each generation felt more and more entitled, until now we're left with ones who can't function in society without govt hand-outs and safety nets. They don't appreciate freedom, because sometimes freedom means difficult sacrifices. These generations keep electing the politicians who will give them more and more and more, even if they have to take it from others, and it's still not enough. The politicians are happy to oblige. We get what we demand.

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