Three hurt in crash on Pa. 696

Three people were seriously injured in a two-vehicle crash at 4:44 p.m. Tuesday on Newburg Road in Southampton Township, Cumberland County. Full Story
Bad Area

New York, NY

#1 Jan 14, 2009
That is a bad location. The house blocks your view and you can't see those coming around the bend until it is sometimes too late.
bvl

Philadelphia, PA

#2 Jan 14, 2009
That is a VERY dangerous intersection, the line of sight is very short. And with the opening of the new Shippensburg University "rear entrance" on Fogelsanger Road, there is now more traffic!
Big A

Carlisle, PA

#5 Jan 14, 2009
This location is a Death Trap. It will happen!!! It is When!!! With the increase in traffic to the rear of the college, it is just a matter of time. Thst's OK, No one cares !!! Close off that section of the road and run a study to improve it before it happens.
shotglass

Etters, PA

#7 Jan 14, 2009
I think that is the very turn where I lost a friend about 34 years ago. He was an up-and-coming basketball star at Shippensburg High, Jerry Hock.
shotglass

Etters, PA

#8 Jan 14, 2009
No, I'm wrong. Jerry Hock crashed on the stretch of 641 between Newburg and Newville. A turn around a house just like that, though.
Good Night

Chambersburg, PA

#9 Jan 14, 2009
There are dozen's of bad places just like that around there. Try turning left OR right when coming from Mongul Hill Rd onto Roxbury Road. You can't see anything coming over that hill. I think a big factor in this accident was the kid was too inexperienced to be driving. I think kids should at least take a driver's safety course before being allowed to drive. Just my opinion though.
suggestion

Chambersburg, PA

#10 Jan 14, 2009
Kids should get a permit to drive at 16 and have to be at least 17 to get there liscense
a reader

Haddonfield, NJ

#11 Jan 14, 2009
bvl wrote:
That is a VERY dangerous intersection, the line of sight is very short. And with the opening of the new Shippensburg University "rear entrance" on Fogelsanger Road, there is now more traffic!
Uhh - that "rear entrance" to the university has been there for many years(I've used it for a long time and so have many others) and it was just recently upgraded to two lanes across the bridge making it much safer. The inexperience of a young driver was most likely the cause. Also those who travel north on 696 should be aware of that intersection and be alert - I am. I just hope everyone recovers from their injuries.
Doesnt Matter

Newville, PA

#12 Jan 14, 2009
I dont think that an unexperienced driver was the cause, unfortunately things happen when it is hard to see. I sometimes pull out of there when you think everything is clear, but a car flies around and nearly clips me, it is hard to for both ways to see, the person coming and the person waiting to turn
Dawn Townsley

Toms River, NJ

#13 Jan 14, 2009
Me and my husband were the first there and my prayers go out to the Cleary family.
That turn where it happened is way too dangerous.The speed limit is 50 MPH and you cannot see anything coming from the left.By the time you step on the gas and try to turn either way,a car comes up behind you and can easily rear-end you.You cannot go from a dead stop to 55 fast enough.
I think the township should lower it to 35 untill after Fish Hatchery Road!!!!!Maybe if they wouldv'e done this before ,the accident might never have happened,how many more people have to get hurt before they do something about it.They lowered the speed limit behind the college so take some action here!!!!!
The boy had a name and is in critical condition!!!!!!!!
Maybe the driver of the truck that hit them was going too fast with what he was carrying( 5 mules)
Either way THAT IS A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION!!!
anonymous

Carlisle, PA

#14 Jan 14, 2009
Is this the same Bruce Rotz that runs the kennel that sells random source dogs for research and lately has been shipping horses to Canada for slaughter?
Correct

Mount Holly, NJ

#15 Jan 14, 2009
anonymous wrote:
Is this the same Bruce Rotz that runs the kennel that sells random source dogs for research and lately has been shipping horses to Canada for slaughter?
You would be correct.
LOL

Chambersburg, PA

#16 Jan 15, 2009
suggestion wrote:
Kids should get a permit to drive at 16 and have to be at least 17 to get there liscense
Um kids are 16 when they get their permit must have the permit for 6 months and so many driving hours.

So by the time they are done some kids are only a few months shy of being 17 yrs of age....If not 17 depending on if they got their permit right away or not.
Thats Right

New York, NY

#17 Jan 15, 2009
suggestion wrote:
Kids should get a permit to drive at 16 and have to be at least 17 to get there liscense
Who to say it wasn't the 47 yr old's fault. Speed may have been the factor. I myself have pulled out from this road and I normally gun it in case there is someone that will be flying around that curve.

Let's just hope that they all make it through from this accident.
kmb221

United States

#18 Jan 15, 2009
This is just speculation, but go look at the skid marks. My husband went out that way yesterday and he felt speed was a factor because of the skid marks showing on the road. My thought is Mr. Rotz was going way to fast to stop in time. Again, this is just speculation.

People of all ages drive too fast, not just the young ones.
Miles

United States

#19 Jan 15, 2009
I drive that area quite a bit. You can't even drive from the Old Main street towards Newburg without someone tailgating you or passing you in a no passing zone. Try turning from Fish Hatchery Road south on 696. You need afterburners just to get on 696 from there. The same is true when travelling from Newburg into Shippensburg on that road. Something needs to be done from the campus all the way to Newburg on that road. And, you actually see amish children riding their buckboards and buggies thru there. I just shake my head.
JustMyOpinion

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Jan 15, 2009
The speculation is not ours to make, that's for an accident reconstruction team to dertermine cause!

Kudos should go out though to the local fire and EMS companies for a job well done! We're lucky to have such great volunteers!
Carol Curry

King Of Prussia, PA

#21 Jan 21, 2009
My sincere thanks to all of the volunteers and fire companies and ambulance staff that helped my father and nephew durring this horrible accident. Also, my heartfelt thanks to Dawn Townsley and her husband, the couple that stayed with my father and nephew durring the accident. I look forward to meeting you some day. You are sincerely loving and caring people. Many prayers of thanks and prayers for your family.

Daughter of Bill Cleary and Aunt of Jonathan Meade. Swarthmore, Pa.
Family Friend Irene

Franklinville, NJ

#22 Jan 26, 2009
In reading all these comments, it strikes me that people have so much to say but don't use that energy constructively to make changes happen. If you're all familiar with this dangerous intersection, get the petition that was started before going again and take it all the way to your congressman or woman who will then concentrate on Penndot to make that change happen. And if they don't, call the news channels. They love to get involved because next time it could be YOUR brother, or nephew or son coming from school.
As for the driver of the truck carrying mules, he should have been driving more carefully than he was. Speed limit or not, that is a road where you MUST anticipate someone pulling out. Don't just drive defensively, drive anticipatorily. Why is it everyone wants to place blame? Every driver had to learn sometime... Jonathon wasn't speeding, he wasn't driving his Pop Pop recklessly. He was simply making a turn after coming to a complete stop at a sign. End of story. Let it be a lesson to everyone that NOTHING in life requires us to be at this maddening pace we seem determined to keep up. SLOW DOWN out there!!!

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