Poll, and hanging, show racism still alive

Full story: LA Daily News 38
An effigy of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was found hanging from a tree at a Christian university in Oregon earlier this week. Full Story
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Bureaucratic Mess

Glendale, CA

#1 Sep 26, 2008
It's no news that racism exists, the untold story too often is that it exists in all races. So called "minorities" are sometimes not minorities in the new world economy and in the new age.

Matter of fact, some people in America have a vested interest in keeping the perception that white people are more racist than others alive. Who can forget Al Sharpton and the Tawana Brawley case? People shouldn't forget Sharpton and Jackson and their early and hateful condemnation of the Duke University lacrosse players who were wrongly accused of horrible crimes.

Yes, there is a long history of racism in the USA, slavery is our biggest shame. But let's not forget that that period of slavery was facilitated by several European and Middle Eastern countries, as well as by African natives themselves. It began before the USA achieved its independence from England and ended about a century after achieving its independence. It was abolished by great American men of more than one race. And it took unified Americans of all races to end Jim Crow laws. America has come a very long way and is now one of the most integrated and free societies in the world. Can countries like Japan, China, and Sweden say the same thing about themselves?

Until we know who was responsible for hanging the cardboard cutout of Obama at this university and why -- I don't think that we should be too quick to jump to conclusions, Daily News.

Since: Jul 08

United States

#2 Sep 26, 2008
It's a shame that people STILL go about hanging these symbols of hate.

“working to pay obamas regime.”

Since: Mar 08

Tarzana, CA

#3 Sep 26, 2008
The most vocal and active racism I have ever seen in my lifetime has to be the La Raza and MEcHA Anti-American hate groups. They make the KKK look like teddy-bears. I wish there was more focus on exposing those groups. Now THAT would be an interesting story for Dateline or 20/20. Hint, Hint...
Insider

Santa Fe Springs, CA

#4 Sep 26, 2008
Was this Anti Black or Anti Communist?
RideABlackCowboy

Toronto, Canada

#5 Sep 26, 2008
Not to mention the Arabs who are enslaving Africans in many African countries.(about which Jesse.Al,Mikey and the usual pack of mountebanks remains silent!!!!!)

“"It's A Madhouse!"”

Since: Sep 08

Planet of the Apes

#6 Sep 26, 2008
Most of these nooses that have been hung have been by blacks themselves.
Bureaucratic Mess

Glendale, CA

#7 Sep 26, 2008
sonicyouth wrote:
It's a shame that people STILL go about hanging these symbols of hate.
Did you have anything to do with it?
Jose

Santa Fe Springs, CA

#8 Sep 26, 2008
Illegals HATE Blacks. Now that the Democratic Party has been transformed.....Brown is the new Black..........Suckers!
Michael

Canyon Country, CA

#9 Sep 26, 2008
Better question... If Obama loses because of his skin color - rather than for the policies he espouses - what exactly did the democratic party accomplish? More racial tension? A breakdown of the little trust that existed? Protests? Marches? Race riots?

It seems like everyone but the democratic party knew that racism would be a major obstacle for Obama to overcome, yet democratic leaders and strategists have blown off the notion as if racism magically disappeared. Had the media been reporting the presidential race correctly, they would've reported to the public that the odds have been against Obama since day one rather than making ludicrous statements like "circumstances favor Obama"... uhh, no they don't... he's black (and yes, I understand that his mother was white but his skin color is not, which is sadly all that matters to racists)... and that's the bleak truth of the matter. Obama has never been the "favorite" to win this race, simply because of that. The media is way too PC about this because they don't want to offend anybody but should be more concerned with reporting the truth. What really confounds me is the fact that all the pollsters say "add 6 points (or more) to McCain to account for racism"... and then they don't add 6 points (or more) to McCain to account for racism and pretend like Obama is still ahead. I've said it from day one and I'll say it again... if a black man can become leader of the free world, I'll believe it when I see it. Just because we wish it away doesn't make it so. Somebody needs to balance out all of this idealism with a cold, hard dose of reality. I hope that I'm wrong but fear that I'm right.
joeblue

Newport Beach, CA

#10 Sep 26, 2008
Michael wrote:
Better question... If Obama loses because of his skin color - rather than for the policies he espouses - what exactly did the democratic party accomplish? More racial tension? A breakdown of the little trust that existed? Protests? Marches? Race riots?
It seems like everyone but the democratic party knew that racism would be a major obstacle for Obama to overcome, yet democratic leaders and strategists have blown off the notion as if racism magically disappeared. Had the media been reporting the presidential race correctly, they would've reported to the public that the odds have been against Obama since day one rather than making ludicrous statements like "circumstances favor Obama"... uhh, no they don't... he's black (and yes, I understand that his mother was white but his skin color is not, which is sadly all that matters to racists)... and that's the bleak truth of the matter. Obama has never been the "favorite" to win this race, simply because of that. The media is way too PC about this because they don't want to offend anybody but should be more concerned with reporting the truth. What really confounds me is the fact that all the pollsters say "add 6 points (or more) to McCain to account for racism"... and then they don't add 6 points (or more) to McCain to account for racism and pretend like Obama is still ahead. I've said it from day one and I'll say it again... if a black man can become leader of the free world, I'll believe it when I see it. Just because we wish it away doesn't make it so. Somebody needs to balance out all of this idealism with a cold, hard dose of reality. I hope that I'm wrong but fear that I'm right.
Excellent post even if obama was to win which I doubt white america just will not allow it obama if history repeats itself will be killed to many racist people in the usa!.

“working to pay obamas regime.”

Since: Mar 08

Tarzana, CA

#11 Sep 26, 2008
surfwidow wrote:
The most vocal and active racism I have ever seen in my lifetime has to be the La Raza and MEcHA Anti-American hate groups. They make the KKK look like teddy-bears. I wish there was more focus on exposing those groups. Now THAT would be an interesting story for Dateline or 20/20. Hint, Hint...
EDIT---- And JOEBLUE is the MOST racist poster on these boards. All you will agree if you go back through the posts to see his comments. Thats what makes it sort-of funny that he would post about Anti-Racism, LOL!
Bureaucratic Mess

Glendale, CA

#12 Sep 26, 2008
Why do Michael and Joeblue assume that it's "racist white America" that are cause of Obama's impending loss -- rather than America's rejection of his hateful associations, his extreme Left socialist leanings, and his gross executive inexperience??? It's people like these two that often do stuff like the incident reported in this story. They're the kind of people I was referring to in my original message, people who like to stir up racism where none exists because they have a vested interest in doing so. Whites haven't been polled as intending to vote for McCain in the neighborhood of 98%, as have blacks for Obama. Whites aren't the only people who vote in America. In case you haven't been paying attention, we also have larger numbers of Hispanics and Asians among our population.
Rody

Torrance, CA

#13 Sep 26, 2008
Racism has always been alive...blacks hating whites, hispanics and asians. Asians disliking blacks and hispanics. Hispanics disliking blacks....etc.. etc..etc. What really bothers me is why the press don't give it a great deal of publicity when white, Hispanic or Asian people are brutally attacked and even murdered by blacks. Everybody has seen these atrocities on t.v. but...oh well, seems like they're the only ones who can be racist without been accused of such uglyness. Do you think for a moment that most people want a black president in this great country and have monuments of him in every state and offer sacrifices to him because he's black? Don't they want to be treated equally? So, why they try to imposed themselves in the rest of us by screaming to the top of their lungs that Nobama is AFRICAN-american? If he wants some recognition he should get it in Africa.
skeptical taxpayer

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Sep 26, 2008
What a TOTALLY STUPID EDITORIAL, claiming that this incident reflects racism in our country, while dismissing everything else from ending slavery to choosing a black man for Presidential Candidate as mere blips along the way.

There is NO country in the world which has done more in so short a time to do everything it can to end racism, and if you look at most young people, they're more color-blind that MLK could ever have imagined in this amount of time. To a degree that can't possibly be imagined in ethnic-bound Europe, Africa, India, China, Japan or the Middle East.

We have, in fact, had affirmative action for decades that arguably discriminates against financially strapped but well-qualified whites when it comes to college education and scholarships, as well as promotion in civil service jobs, police depts., etc. Still, despite resentments on both sides, the vast majority of people can relate to and make friends with people of other races on-on-one. Individual relationships generally aren't hampered by distrust of another race that some people of that race, black, white or Latino, have. But if you want to LOOK FOR racism, you'll certainly find it and blow up some obscure incident.

To some, one episode in one place -- which just HAPPENS to be at a "Christian" college, it's not indicatve of Christians or Christianity as this article implies by emphasizing the word Christian -- is reason to condemn our whole country. For shame.

This editorial is implying that if inexperienced, egotistical, Obama, with a past that raises many valid questions, doesn't win over McCain, the reason will be sheer racism. That's emotional and mental blackmail, and it's just wrong. There may be a small percent of people who won't vote for him because he's black, but as Obama himself pointed out, many (actually over 86%) of blacks won't vote for a white man running against a black man. So that works even more in the other direction. The Daily News is SO un-nuanced.
Savant

AOL

#15 Sep 26, 2008
surfwidow wrote:
The most vocal and active racism I have ever seen in my lifetime has to be the La Raza and MEcHA Anti-American hate groups. They make the KKK look like teddy-bears. I wish there was more focus on exposing those groups. Now THAT would be an interesting story for Dateline or 20/20. Hint, Hint...
How many thousands of people has La Raza lynched?
Candy

Bloomington, CA

#17 Sep 26, 2008
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>
How many thousands of people has La Raza lynched?
They don't lynch, they do drive bys and robberies and carjackings. get a clue. read the paper. look at wanted posters. they make Americans want to lynch themselves to get out of this toilet LaRaza has created of LA.
OC Steve

Palmdale, CA

#18 Sep 28, 2008
Racism, love of money and a twisted & hypocritical form of Christianity? Sounds like the Republican platform to me! Blacks are voting for Obama because he understands their problems and is trying to make a difference, not just because he is Black. I guarantee you if it was Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry or Hilary Clinton running against Alan Keyes or Clarence Thomas, the Blacks would be voting 90-10 for the white guy/woman. Blacks vote on issues and they know the Republican Party does not give a damn about them or their issues. Please don't hide behind the myth that today's Republican Party is the party of Lincoln... that party was centered in the industrialized North and the Democrats were in the South. Over the past 150 years (and especially after passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act) the two parties have switched geographic and ideological positions (take a look at where the Red states are concentrated). If Lincoln were born today, he would be a Democrat! It is sad that after 150 years a man is still judged by the color of his skin rather than the content of his character. By the way, if you're beginning to feel the pinch of what Bush and Friends have done to our economy and our leadership position in the world, vote for McCain so he can finsih the job. "God Bless them for they know not what they do."
Candy

Mission Hills, CA

#19 Sep 28, 2008
OC Steve wrote:
Racism, love of money and a twisted & hypocritical form of Christianity? Sounds like the Republican platform to me! Blacks are voting for Obama because he understands their problems and is trying to make a difference, not just because he is Black. I guarantee you if it was Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry or Hilary Clinton running against Alan Keyes or Clarence Thomas, the Blacks would be voting 90-10 for the white guy/woman. Blacks vote on issues and they know the Republican Party does not give a damn about them or their issues. Please don't hide behind the myth that today's Republican Party is the party of Lincoln... that party was centered in the industrialized North and the Democrats were in the South. Over the past 150 years (and especially after passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act) the two parties have switched geographic and ideological positions (take a look at where the Red states are concentrated). If Lincoln were born today, he would be a Democrat! It is sad that after 150 years a man is still judged by the color of his skin rather than the content of his character. By the way, if you're beginning to feel the pinch of what Bush and Friends have done to our economy and our leadership position in the world, vote for McCain so he can finsih the job. "God Bless them for they know not what they do."
and how is it someone from OC knows anything about what Blacks are thinking?? That's rich. How many Blacks are on your block?
Bureaucratic Mess

Glendale, CA

#20 Sep 29, 2008
OC Steve wrote:
Racism, love of money and a twisted & hypocritical form of Christianity? Sounds like the Republican platform to me! Blacks are voting for Obama because he understands their problems and is trying to make a difference, not just because he is Black. I guarantee you if it was Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry or Hilary Clinton running against Alan Keyes or Clarence Thomas, the Blacks would be voting 90-10 for the white guy/woman. Blacks vote on issues and they know the Republican Party does not give a damn about them or their issues. Please don't hide behind the myth that today's Republican Party is the party of Lincoln... that party was centered in the industrialized North and the Democrats were in the South. Over the past 150 years (and especially after passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act) the two parties have switched geographic and ideological positions (take a look at where the Red states are concentrated). If Lincoln were born today, he would be a Democrat! It is sad that after 150 years a man is still judged by the color of his skin rather than the content of his character. By the way, if you're beginning to feel the pinch of what Bush and Friends have done to our economy and our leadership position in the world, vote for McCain so he can finsih the job. "God Bless them for they know not what they do."
Your criticism of Republicans is silly. Compare the racial diversity of Bush's cabinet to that of Clinton's and get back to us with more spin and propaganda.

As for "Blacks are voting for Obama because he understands their problems and is trying to make a difference, not just because he is Black," replace "Black" with "White" and "Obama" with "McCain" in that sentence and imagine someone else writing it. What would you think about that?
Sunny-USA

Glendale, CA

#21 Oct 1, 2008
While the hanging of anyone is WRONG and UGLY--Its'n it racism to only claim 1/2 of your race---
You see Halle Berry stand up and say what a proud black woman she is when her white mother raised her ?????????? I'm not voting for Obama and I'm white and has zero to do with race....And isn't is race to only vote for Obama because he is 1/2 black---

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