Flying M to become church camp

Flying M to become church camp

There are 9 comments on the News-Register story from Nov 4, 2006, titled Flying M to become church camp. In it, News-Register reports that:

Scott and Christy Bradley of Newberg - owners of Northwest Sleevewear in Portland, which specializes in silkscreened and embroidered T-shirts, sweatshirts and other apparel - announced Friday that they will ...

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New Neighbors

Ashburn, VA

#1 Nov 11, 2006
The Bradley's plan to remove the airstrip and close the lounge, but continue operating the restaurant. They plan to use the motel and cabins to house visiting children under the Rugged Cross Ranch Ministries banner.
Curious to know a bit about our new neighbors, I web searched (google, yahoo, MSN) the words -Rugged Cross Ranch Ministries Banner- in various ways, and received no hits to tell me about this operation.
Can you enlighten me?
Neighbor

AOL

#2 Nov 14, 2006
-- Neighbor? I live between the "Flying M" dude ranch and the Hillsboro airport -- and it's been Hell! Granted, with the price of fuel up, there have been fewer small airplanes racing between the two, but I'm SO HAPPY to hear that place is going under!

Here's a link to a McMinnville News-Register article that may have more information to search.

http://www.newsregister.com/news/story.cfm...

Lots of names and associations... It sickens me to think yet another "Church camp" is being set up in a pedophiles paradise of isolation. Mark my words: there will be another sexual scandal associated with 'this' camp. And linking religious BS with outdoor 'good times' is a continuing ploy of these pushers as they attempt to groom another generation into denying reality and abusing nature ... god - maybe we're better off with the damn droning planes?

Search away! And tell me of our newest neighbors.
Neighbor

AOL

#3 Nov 15, 2006
Did you catch "Frontline" on PBS last night? It followed the demise of a Spokane (Washington) Mayor's history and link to (homosexual) child-molesters ... beginning at an isolated Boy Scout camp where they'd take kids for private canoe rides...

Does the "Flying M" have a lake? There were child-molesting ex-military 'hero'- cop - boy scout - religious leaders doing their thing... You'd think society would figure out the ploy of hiding behind god, flag, and country? Maybe they have? They recalled this homophobe / homosexual far-right republican mayor, just as they drained the national swamp with this last election ... but I digress - have fun.
TODD BRADLEY

Baker City, OR

#4 Nov 18, 2006
...Did you even read the article? You are way off on what this camp is even about... there is so much that you have twisted and misunderstood. This 'church camp' is not what you have made it up to be. The main goal of this camp is to take in children who have grown up without fathers, and using Christ as a positive teaching tool. And as for your comments on petaphiles, the councelors up there are family, friends, and mainly Christians. There are alot of things that you could say about the ranch, and just a bit of information, I have witnessed these people with the children they have taken in.... kids who Have been abused... they come into their home and spread the word of God and help them, not diminish their dignity and pride by putting them through it again. There are way too many assumptions that you have brought up that are far from being remotely even a possibility. Judging is a very easy thing to do. Maybe you should attend the camp when it is open, because assumptions like that lead me to believe you might need a little bit of help yourself.
Neighbor wrote:
-- Neighbor? I live between the "Flying M" dude ranch and the Hillsboro airport -- and it's been Hell! Granted, with the price of fuel up, there have been fewer small airplanes racing between the two, but I'm SO HAPPY to hear that place is going under!
Here's a link to a McMinnville News-Register article that may have more information to search.
http://www.newsregister.com/news/story.cfm...
Lots of names and associations... It sickens me to think yet another "Church camp" is being set up in a pedophiles paradise of isolation. Mark my words: there will be another sexual scandal associated with 'this' camp. And linking religious BS with outdoor 'good times' is a continuing ploy of these pushers as they attempt to groom another generation into denying reality and abusing nature ... god - maybe we're better off with the damn droning planes?
Search away! And tell me of our newest neighbors.
Neighbor

AOL

#5 Nov 19, 2006
Todd, which article? No church camp advertises itself as a potential problem, that's not good for business. The guise of using Christ as a teaching tool is often what gets little boys into bad situations... There's no guarantee this won't repeat itself at yet another isolated 'youth camp.' Is there? My "judgment" is formed from my awareness of scandals perpetrated in the name of Christ. Whenever people are free to perpetuate a myth within social isolation there's a temptation (in some) to continue making it up as they go to justify their own deviant behavior. Perhaps that's a bit deep, but why is it private isolation appears necessary to guide youth..?

In short, religion is make believe. Therefore, anything you "teach" about it is the same. If the Flying M was to become anything, it should have become a county park, or yet another tree plantation. But just as "Rajneeshpuram" has become a "Christian camp," is there a significant difference from what it was before? If nothing else, mark my words, scandal will emerge, if 30 years down the road...
john

Tulsa, OK

#6 Apr 22, 2007
Scandal exists everywhere; In churches, in
camps, schools, in government, demo or GOP,but we can't close down everything becuse of it. Specific things involving
sex and criminal abuse should be dealt with and resolved through the law. If you
know a specific incident with names or dates, put up or shut up! Be careful of
being a red neck griper with only suspicions. Some people who write and
gripe are only revealing the desires of
their own heart,when their rantings are
read by people who are much smarter than
them.
Kelly C Dundee OR

Salem, OR

#7 Jun 26, 2007
I have met the people at the 5 Rock Ranch (formerly the Flying M) and believe them to be people of integrity, with no further motivation than to be an instrument of healing to children of all ages, sometimes from the very abuse the 'neighbor' speaks of. I appreciate the attempts of the ranch to help in a much needed area of our society.
The 'neighbors' may bark... but the caravan moves on.
lars erickson

Riverton, WY

#8 Apr 9, 2008
if religion is a farce, then how do you tell right from wrong? maybe we should let bill clinton descide what is right and wrong. for many of those kids, that camp could be the only chance they will have to hear the blessed gospel of Christ, one second into eternity, that is all that will matter
concerned

Eugene, OR

#9 Jul 5, 2011
They just removed a child of a home unwilling because his mother said to. His hands zipped tied behind his back. He pulled A's and B's at the end of the school year. He loves school and currenty had friends. Because he did not see his mother's regious ways they forced him to this "wounderful" camp.

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