It is a simple thing, George. You and Joe are obsessing about what you believe is sin; especially the sins of others.<quoted text>
Perversion Muddled Way, perversion.
You don't need to involve yourself in these obsessions. Joe tries to find grounds for condemnation based on how many times in a conversation a disciple of Christ makes direct reference to Christ. You are trying to justify your need to be critical of another's faith in Christ Jesus by defining what you believe to be sin, in order to find sin in others.
"...and whoever gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones in the name of a disciple - truly I tell you, none of these will lose their reward."