Cops: Man fatally shot after threaten...

Cops: Man fatally shot after threatening officers with knife

There are 143 comments on the Times Herald-Record story from Mar 8, 2012, titled Cops: Man fatally shot after threatening officers with knife. In it, Times Herald-Record reports that:

Newburgh police officers shot and killed a man Wednesday night after he charged them with a knife in his hand, police said.

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Tom

West Point, NY

#21 Mar 9, 2012
Actually, Mipp, it matters an awful lot. If he was doing nothing wrong, then he had nothing to fear. Sounds like you're in favor of defying the law.

By running, not only did he place his life in danger, he placed the lives of the women and kids in danger. And he placed the lives of the cops in danger. He got himself killed by his irresponsible actions.

And Crystall, as far as the cops being corrupt, maybe they wouldn't be if they didn't have to be on high alert every single minute because the community wants to enable druggies and lawbreakers instead of turning them in.
RU4REAL

Montgomery, NY

#22 Mar 9, 2012
It's unfortunate that a youngman's life was lost. However until all the facts are out cooler minds need to prevail. All we truly know was the young had a warrant and a chase ensued into a home and the youngman was shot. Whether there was or wasn't a knife or police justification we the public don't know. Those present and involved know what happened and should talk without any influence or intimidation. This case should be fully investigated. Maybe a independent body should investigate the incident but that doesn't mean the cops or the family are going to be happy with the results. Justice means different things to different individuals. As a resident of the community I want the facts and hopefully a independent commission will be assembled to investigate. God bless all the families involved.
SickofGhettoNwbr gh

Middletown, NY

#23 Mar 9, 2012
Don't even matter wasting your breath Tom, I've lived in Newburgh all my life and it's always someone else's fault. Forget the fact that this MAN attacked police officers who risk their lives everyday to protect us from the thugs of Newburgh. Everyone forgets that these officers also have families of their own that they would like to come home to. According to the news, the warrants were not for child support, they were for larceny, second-degree manslaughter, and substance abuse.

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2012/March/...

Bottom line people, cops are trained to shoot if their lives or the lives of others are in danger, and that's exactly what happened the second this man picked up the knife and went after them.
Tom

West Point, NY

#24 Mar 9, 2012
Wait a minute, so this guy wasn't just an irresponsible father who didn't want to pay for his kids, but he was wanted for killing someone as well?

Yep, Mipp and Crystall, keep defending the criminal.
Gunner

Nanuet, NY

#26 Mar 9, 2012
Def only a face his mother could love! Shes the only one i feel bad for (the mother). Certainly not the loud mouths in the crowds. Those bitches will ruin any real chance that family had to get justice.
Gunner

Nanuet, NY

#27 Mar 9, 2012
NEWBURGH A police media briefing turned to bedlam Friday morning as Orange County District Attorney Frank Phillips and Newburgh Police Chief Michael Ferrara spoke about the fatal shooting of 22-year-old Michael Lembhard by police officers on Wednesday night. He had a warrant for second-degree manslaughter, the chief said.

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2012/March/...

Thanks Sickofghetto!!
Gunner

Nanuet, NY

#28 Mar 9, 2012
As long as no innocent people or animals were injured, i dont see the big deal
lastoneout

Guilderland, NY

#29 Mar 9, 2012
What a Joke. Maybe had this Mother shown more concern for her son, when he was out banging and drugging, she wouldnt be burying him. Also, Newburgh city officials, show some stones and back your cops. Dont let thugs disguised as community activists like Omari Shakur (aka Ray Ray Bryant) push you into a special prosecutor. To see a Mayor of a city beg her citizens for "peace" is distgusting. How about saying, "Do you what you should and obey the law. Otherwise, we are going lock your asses up!"
Gunner

Nanuet, NY

#30 Mar 9, 2012
Couldnt have said it any better lastoneout!!
trooperdave

Thomaston, CT

#31 Mar 9, 2012
Take all the police out of the inner city and let them police themselves!
Tass

Holyoke, MA

#32 Mar 9, 2012
It is very sad that a life was lost but at same time who runs from the cops !! And pulls a knife out on them also like sick if ghetto Newburgh said he was not just wanted for child support ...!! I think they could hav shot him in leg or communicated so multiple officers didn't shoot him at once but at same time wen your life is threatened your not thinking well let me shoot once like mentioned above these officers have families to go home to at the end if the day
PoPo

United States

#33 Mar 9, 2012
mlpp2012 wrote:
i really hope kflo01 your not talking bout the cops as the good ones those bastards shot a kid in cold blood if u knew the truth u wouldnt of made that comment truth is he had a warrant on back child support not a violent crime , yes he ran but no knife was found and cops open fire in a house where innocent children wer sleeping and he was shot in the back so whats that tell you.... i hope those cops burn in hell for what they did judgement day is coming !!!!!!!!!!
And you know he was shot in the back how ? Hearsay ? Smartboy.
PoPo

United States

#34 Mar 9, 2012
Tom wrote:
If all this was over a warrant for unpaid child support, then why was he running away from the cops? His own family said he had problems with drugs and alcohol, yet, of course, as always in these case, he was a "good boy". A good boy who apparently did drugs, wasn't supporting his kids and pulled a knife on the cops.
And the brother's comment of "You 'f---ed with the Lembhards" says it all. They must think they're some sort of gang. Well, if you're going to act like a gang, you're going to get treated like a gang.
Well said !!!
PoPo

United States

#35 Mar 9, 2012
Mlpp2012 wrote:
Ny tax payer NO knife was found that's a lie to justify what they did straight up murder of a citizen by law enforcement !!!!!!! They had NO warrant to enter that house justice will b served for Michael rip !!!!!!
Mlpp2012 . You should study the NYS Penal Law.
(If you know what that is ). Police Officers do not need a warrant to enter a residence when a possible suspect is fleeing from them . I think You watch too much TV.
Betty

Linden, NJ

#36 Mar 9, 2012
My thoughts EXACTLY trooperdave. Put all the cops inside....only got out on the street to take reports AFTER incidents happen. If these scumbags run....let them go!!!! Don't do anything!!!! Let them kill each other.....let the city burn.
mike m

Mahopac, NY

#37 Mar 9, 2012
SAVAGES!!
Justis

Greenville, NC

#38 Mar 10, 2012
Look I am an officer of the law, and that was eccessive force, we are train to use limited force unless ower life is threaten. My self, I would have used my stun gun to put him submission. That shooting was unnessisury, I Pray for the Family and the Officers invoved. GOD watch over us all...

Since: Mar 12

Greenville, NC

#39 Mar 10, 2012
To POPO, it doe not justify what your fello officers have done, They should have used there stun guns, it was not the OK CORALL, wild wild west, 2012 OK. GOD watch over the Family and COMMUNITY.....
Fetus T Bluster

Kissimmee, FL

#40 Mar 10, 2012
Betty wrote:
My thoughts EXACTLY trooperdave. Put all the cops inside....only got out on the street to take reports AFTER incidents happen. If these scumbags run....let them go!!!! Don't do anything!!!! Let them kill each other.....let the city burn.
as long as it`s junkies killing junkies who cares.
lastoneout

Guilderland, NY

#41 Mar 10, 2012
Justis1960 wrote:
To POPO, it doe not justify what your fello officers have done, They should have used there stun guns, it was not the OK CORALL, wild wild west, 2012 OK. GOD watch over the Family and COMMUNITY.....
Justis,

If you truly are an "officer of the law" as you proclaim yourself to be above, then whatever job hired you, should be under federal investigation for employing an illiterate. If you paid any attention during your training at all, you know that the minimum safe distance from an assailant with a knife is 21 feet, so that eliminates the opportunity for a "drive stun". Secondly maybe none of the officers in the anti crime unit were carrying stun guns?

The level of force increases exponentally depending on the level of the threat. Once this skel lunged, he was done. Furthermore, his family already showed they are liars, he was not wanted for "non payment of child support", he was wanted on a host of charges including menacing with a knife. Ever stop to think that maybe these officers had dealt with him before, and may have known about his fondness for using blades? Simply put, this guy committed unintentional "suicide by cop".

Sussman is nothing but a leftover 60's loser, resigned to chasing ambulances because his political career didn't fly. Omari Shakur, yeah his son was killed by Newburgh PD a couple of years ago, because he was putting rounds downrange on Broadway, when the sidewalks were packed with innocent people. In that incident as well, according to the "community", the police were wrong. Good citizens of Newburgh, your city will remain a war zone until you have enough guts, to take on the destructive elements in your streets, and in your classrooms, and in your government. Newburgh PD, you guys hang in there, you deserve better.

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