How Much is a Principal Worth

How Much is a Principal Worth

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Educated

Tazewell, TN

#1 Dec 23, 2011
A school principal in Claiborne County makes $80,000.00 a year. A police officer makes $16,000.00. I’d rather have more police officer’s and less principal’s! Of course, if you’ve ran into one, they believe they are underpaid. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!
I know

Tazewell, TN

#2 Dec 23, 2011
The principal at CHS isn't worth a plug nickle!
ORT

Tazewell, TN

#3 Dec 23, 2011
i saw 1 on craigs list for 20.00.
Educated

Tazewell, TN

#4 Dec 24, 2011
You know, when you think about it, since the average income of a Claiborne Co resident is $19,000 a year, I can understand why they walk around like VIPs. They are! After a Lawyer and Doctor a school principal is the highest paid position in the county.

We’d better start treating these people with respect. Next time you see one, tell them what a great job they are doing and how much you appreciate their “service.” Maybe we should be giving them $100,000. A Claiborne Co principal is worth more in intelligence level and motivational drive then the Knox Co School Superintendent, so I guess they should make more than he does..
For Real

Tazewell, TN

#5 Dec 27, 2011
Educated wrote:
A school principal in Claiborne County makes $80,000.00 a year. A police officer makes $16,000.00. I’d rather have more police officer’s and less principal’s! Of course, if you’ve ran into one, they believe they are underpaid. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!
I hope you are joking. Is your information for real? Where did you get info? How many principals or central office supervisors in Claiborne County? Do they all get paid the same? Responsibilities vs Results?
TOP-Heavy

United States

#6 Dec 28, 2011
For Real wrote:
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I hope you are joking. Is your information for real? Where did you get info? How many principals or central office supervisors in Claiborne County? Do they all get paid the same? Responsibilities vs Results?
And I ain't Talkin' Bout your mama's waistline either.

This is one of the MAIN problems with public ed (believe me...I KNOW)...

Public (GOVT) ed is TOP HEAVY. Administrators....Administrato rs Assistants.....Assistants....S ecretaries....."Office Staff"...

I can't count the number of times I've been in the administrative offices of a school or school administrative building...and the place is FULL of people at desks.

What's the deal with that? What are they all doing all day?

My guess is (well, I KNOW)...they are all pushing the paper around required to "comply" with this reg, that reg, this mandate, that mandate.....

In all reality....the organization would work fine with the teachers....each school have a LEAD teacher who teaches a smaller number of classes...and then does some MINIMAL admin work part of each day....

Then have just one "principal" for the entire school system.

Things would work MUCH more smoothly....a group of teachers can run the school their own school just fine.
Truth

Winchester, KY

#7 Dec 29, 2011
WOW! Obviously the ones posting on here have no idea what they are talking about, I am married to a principal, and they, by no means, make that much!
However, they are responsible for your most prized possesions,(your children), every day!
Truth

Winchester, KY

#8 Dec 29, 2011
You have got to be kidding me! I guess there should be no bosses, mayors, presidents, we could all run our own country right?!? What an idiot! You must be one of the teachers that the principals have to keep in control!
TOP-Heavy wrote:
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And I ain't Talkin' Bout your mama's waistline either.
This is one of the MAIN problems with public ed (believe me...I KNOW)...
Public (GOVT) ed is TOP HEAVY. Administrators....Administrato rs Assistants.....Assistants....S ecretaries....."Office Staff"...
I can't count the number of times I've been in the administrative offices of a school or school administrative building...and the place is FULL of people at desks.
What's the deal with that? What are they all doing all day?
My guess is (well, I KNOW)...they are all pushing the paper around required to "comply" with this reg, that reg, this mandate, that mandate.....
In all reality....the organization would work fine with the teachers....each school have a LEAD teacher who teaches a smaller number of classes...and then does some MINIMAL admin work part of each day....
Then have just one "principal" for the entire school system.
Things would work MUCH more smoothly....a group of teachers can run the school their own school just fine.
Ahhh Yes - - -

United States

#10 Dec 29, 2011
Truth wrote:
WOW! Obviously the ones posting on here have no idea what they are talking about, I am married to a principal, and they, by no means, make that much!
However, they are responsible for your most prized possesions,(your children), every day!
Ahhh yes, that worn out 'ol fall-back - "your most prized...."(fill in the blank).

Or....why not try the really tired one: "children are the future"

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Look...the TEACHERS in each school could nominate one of themselves to be the Lead Teacher / Admin.....who would make final decisions for the school and communicate with the main office, when needed....

That group could decide on their own school's ground-rules....and manage just fine, thank you.

Some things would actually GET DONE (like discipline and education)

And NO...I'm NOT a teacher (or related to one).

TOP HEAVY !!!!!!(just like your mama's waistline)
A person of interest

United States

#11 Dec 30, 2011
The biggest thing hurting our school system is that the residents of Claiborne county have allowed our schools to be an extension of Claiborne county politics.
Get the politics out of the schools and then we can see a higher caliber of education here.
How about come next election, let's make a pact to vote for the people who will actually help the children instead of the candidate who will give your niece a job, if you turn your head and pretend not to see their hand in the coffers.
Educated

Ooltewah, TN

#12 Dec 30, 2011
We had a principal’s wife question the pay, but didn’t tell us how much he does make. Are you scared to let the public know what your husband makes? If he's underpaid we should react in embarrassment when we find out how little they actually make.

Please someone who knows, I was told $80,000, if this is wrong let us know! Like I said, a principal's wife called me a liar, but didn't tell us how much he makes.

Look on your husbands pay stub and try and figure out how much he makes a month, then multiply that by 12 (even though he only works 9 months, he gets paid for the summer break too, so that’s why we figure on a 12 month scale. It should actually make it look like he makes even less if you’re creative!
Cold Hard Facts

United States

#13 Dec 30, 2011
There is an average of 2 fights a day at CHS. No punishment for fighting leads to more fighting. The students have absolutely no respect for the principal. I will not send my child there when the time comes for her to go to high school.
Connie, you have @$@&3,$: up by sending Susan Essary there as principal. I hope the board forces you to get rid of her, and if you don't, I hope they get rid of you!susan does not know what she is doing and has no principal skills. For the sake of all, do something!
Know

Tazewell, TN

#14 Dec 30, 2011
A person of interest wrote:
The biggest thing hurting our school system is that the residents of Claiborne county have allowed our schools to be an extension of Claiborne county politics.
Get the politics out of the schools and then we can see a higher caliber of education here.
How about come next election, let's make a pact to vote for the people who will actually help the children instead of the candidate who will give your niece a job, if you turn your head and pretend not to see their hand in the coffers.
I had heard the County Commisioners had voted for the position of Superintendent of Schools to be returned to the voting public. What is the hold up? Anyone know the answer? Know its not in the best interest of the local politicans or politics as usual. But isn't that the way its supposed to be? Appointed by the people(voting) and a check/balance of power to the powers that be? Do you not think it is about time the people had a say again?
not sure

Tazewell, TN

#15 Dec 30, 2011
I am not 100% on this but I believe the office of Superintendent must remain as it is due to state law. I believe every county in TN has the same procedure for voting in a Superintendent ( the school board votes),but again not sure.
I know

Tazewell, TN

#16 Dec 30, 2011
Cold Hard Facts wrote:
There is an average of 2 fights a day at CHS. No punishment for fighting leads to more fighting. The students have absolutely no respect for the principal. I will not send my child there when the time comes for her to go to high school.
Connie, you have @$@&3,$: up by sending Susan Essary there as principal. I hope the board forces you to get rid of her, and if you don't, I hope they get rid of you!susan does not know what she is doing and has no principal skills. For the sake of all, do something!
She says she wants to do something about bullying....yeah, right! My daughter is bullied almost daily, and no one cares. Her science teacher just turned a blind eye to it.
Educated

Ooltewah, TN

#17 Dec 31, 2011
Well, I wasn’t even going to bring this up, but the Claiborne County School Superintendent makes $120,000.00 a year.

Does anyone know about any county jobs opening up that pays between $50,000 to $100,000 a year. I’m a great worker and would love to “serve” you the public. I’d even be willing to take the low end ($50,000). I’d work 70 – 80 hours a week for that kind of money.

Am I just too dumb to get a job that pays over $20,000 a year? How is it that these people believe that they are worth so much? What a gift to my wallet.

Yea, I’d say it’s a state law that we have to have a Superintendent that a committee elects. And then, if they get caught doing something illegal or inappropriate, THE SAME PEOPLE THAT HIRED THEM, FIRE THEM due to incompetence. It’s incompetence alright!
Educated

Ooltewah, TN

#18 Dec 31, 2011
Truth wrote:
WOW! Obviously the ones posting on here have no idea what they are talking about, I am married to a principal, and they, by no means, make that much!
However, they are responsible for your most prized possesions,(your children), every day!
In 2011 we (Claiborne County Taxpayer) paid the school principals $799,000.00. If you divide that by 11, it comes out to about $76,000.00. Now not every principal is paid the same amount (based on time in the system and education level). If your husband is making less than $76,000.00 then he may be getting ripped off. Better check to make sure you’re getting what you deserve, you taking care of our children (prized possessions isn't really an appropriate term for human beings)
Retired

Ooltewah, TN

#19 Jan 1, 2012
As a retired educator, I can assure you that the figures you see are pretty close to accurate. 70k is the average principal pay for beginning Principals. Assistant principals make between 55 and 65k and you have 3 to 4 of them at most every school. High schools pay a little more than elementary schools. Your director of Schools is not really qualified to be in that post as she has no experience as a principal. However since she represents a large part of the educators in your area, she has support. However, if you remove family relations and gender, then you have someone missing her EDS, Doctorate and most of all experience running a school. This explains the poor choices for principal (nepotism in 2 of the 3 posts) and the letter telling the Governor and State Board of Education to take their teacher evaluations and "shove it".
outsider

Tazewell, TN

#20 Jan 1, 2012
State legislature passed law that director of schools is appointed not elected. State legislature must change it back to elected by the people if they so choose.

State legislature and state board of education require that teachers be evaluated 4 times per year if professional and 6 times per year if apprentice/non-tenured so not sure how a teacher run school would work out. Should the teachers also oversee the buildings, bus routes, janitors, teaching assistants, secretaries, guidance counselors,cafeteria,sports teams and events,etc.?

There is no requirement that a director have an EDS. doctorate or experience as a principal.

If you want to know the salaries of the people who work for local school system or other public service positions paid for with taxpayer money, all you have to do is ask. It is public record and you have every right to ask for that information.

If a child is being bullied, called names, harrassed, etc., the child must report the bullying in order for an investigation, which is required, to be conducted. This is very difficult because the child will then no doubt be bullied for being a snitch.
Slippery slope for the child. BUT, if a teacher is a witness they are dead wrong if they do not report it immediately and the principal is required to investigate ALL reports of bullying. Any adult who has knowledge and does nothing should be ashamed.

I wouldn't put much stock in people posting negative things about a Principal unless you have spent a day in his/her shoes. If you find a vacancy in one of these high paying jobs let me know - I would like to have one too, especially if you don't have to work!!
questions

Tazewell, TN

#21 Jan 2, 2012
I bet these principles still claim they don't make much money, and I woud never agree that a principle does a job worth 80,000 dollars a year. and the cops only make 16,000 a year then why in the world would you become a cop, unless its for power trip1

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