Good news for Temporary staff workers

Good news for Temporary staff workers

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Change

New Tazewell, TN

#1 Feb 11, 2013
There's a bill thats going to be introduced at the end of this year that requires company's that uses Temporary workers must hire or fire within 90 days of Employment. Company's like Bush Beans, Denso, DTR and others who are using and abusing the "Temporary Staffing" services could be fined up to $100,000 per Employee. The bill is in its early stages and not a hole lot of information is being released at this time.
Really

Harrogate, TN

#2 Feb 11, 2013
What is the bill # so I can look it up? Or does it have a name? where is it going to be introduced? Federal levels or state level? Toyota, VW and many other plants use temps for years and years without offering permanent positions. I think I heard that you have to work at Toyota a minimum of 5 years as a temp before you will considered for permanent status. However, if it's just TN and these companies would have to hire them permanent, they may just decide to close up shop and move to a state where they can continue utilizing the temp staffing. Sometimes folks get exactly what they ask for.
what

Asheboro, NC

#3 Feb 11, 2013
You are out of your mind, be so bold and record the bill number here. Tennessee is a right to work state for a reason, so that workers have the choice to work and not join the unions that have priced products and jobs overseas. The unions were needed early last century but with the labor laws and the protection workers have now, you are just throwing your hard earned money away with your dues. Look at all the businesses and companies that are struggling now with their pensions, benifit packages now, it is no wonder they choose to use TEMPS. You guys are gonna miss your Twinkies, a prime example of what I just explained, is that what you want to do to your company, run them away to Mexico?
Change

New Tazewell, TN

#4 Feb 12, 2013
Really wrote:
What is the bill # so I can look it up? Or does it have a name? where is it going to be introduced? Federal levels or state level? Toyota, VW and many other plants use temps for years and years without offering permanent positions. I think I heard that you have to work at Toyota a minimum of 5 years as a temp before you will considered for permanent status. However, if it's just TN and these companies would have to hire them permanent, they may just decide to close up shop and move to a state where they can continue utilizing the temp staffing. Sometimes folks get exactly what they ask for.
"they may just decide to close up shop and move to a state where they can continue utilizing the temp staffing". Don't you mean "Abusing the temp staffing"? How would you feel working next to a person making twice the pay doing the same job. The Japs are taking advantage of American workers and the only ones who is against it is Management of these jap companies. I say they need to have Temporary people in the offices. A lot of Temporary people are qualitified (and do a better job)to work in Human Resources and other Management positions but you never see them doing those jobs. I just got back from Nashville and this is one of the things that some people want to change and make Tennessee a better state to live in and work in. This Temporary Staffing thing has gotten out of hand and its time to change. Its just talk now and the Bill should be ready at the end of this year. Hopefully!!!
what

Asheboro, NC

#5 Feb 12, 2013
Change wrote:
<quoted text>"they may just decide to close up shop and move to a state where they can continue utilizing the temp staffing". Don't you mean "Abusing the temp staffing"? How would you feel working next to a person making twice the pay doing the same job. The Japs are taking advantage of American workers and the only ones who is against it is Management of these jap companies. I say they need to have Temporary people in the offices. A lot of Temporary people are qualitified (and do a better job)to work in Human Resources and other Management positions but you never see them doing those jobs. I just got back from Nashville and this is one of the things that some people want to change and make Tennessee a better state to live in and work in. This Temporary Staffing thing has gotten out of hand and its time to change. Its just talk now and the Bill should be ready at the end of this year. Hopefully!!!
You are a racist person. "Japs"? Get into the 21st century here dummy. Yep I said dummy because you are dumb. You just got back from Nashville huh? Been down there riding the River Boat and the clubs? Why do you think companies have hired more TEMPS? Have you heard there has been a Recession recently? These companies have to cut costs any way they can to survie, look how many of them have not succeeded. How many stores do you know have closed? How many local businesses are in trouble, just what do you think is the main problem? And you think a "BILL" is going to take care of the problem, NOPE it is not, as the other poster indicated, lots of businesses have pulled up stakes and moved, do you think they moved because the weather is better in Mexico for instance?
PETE

United States

#6 Feb 12, 2013
What has its nose up the companies ass. Do you see how much in bonus's are paided out to company execs every qrt or year? NO!! Do you see how much the companies spend on lobbying for anti-labor law? Why? Because they want to keep the american work'n man on the edge of poverty! And what is a real joke is it starts at the county level. They don't understand that if the work'n man makes more money they are more likely to buy a house instead of rent. Build a garage instead of a carport. And what does that do for the county? More tax revenue so are roads can be fixed, no more wheel taxes, ect.... so pull your nose out of the companies crack, and help our country instead of the others!
Change

New Tazewell, TN

#7 Feb 12, 2013
what wrote:
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You are a racist person. "Japs"? Get into the 21st century here dummy. Yep I said dummy because you are dumb. You just got back from Nashville huh? Been down there riding the River Boat and the clubs? Why do you think companies have hired more TEMPS? Have you heard there has been a Recession recently? These companies have to cut costs any way they can to survie, look how many of them have not succeeded. How many stores do you know have closed? How many local businesses are in trouble, just what do you think is the main problem? And you think a "BILL" is going to take care of the problem, NOPE it is not, as the other poster indicated, lots of businesses have pulled up stakes and moved, do you think they moved because the weather is better in Mexico for instance?
The jap companys are making more money now than ever more by slave Temporary labor. Just calm down. I have been talking to a lot of people in Nashville and most had no idea just how wrong the temps are being treated. I'm going to Nashville next month to help with the Bill since i have a lot of experance when it comes to Temporary Staffing. Were also talking about having a percentage of Temps working in offices if they have the degrees to do so. This is in its first stages and nothing is written in stone. You should see something written around the end of summer. Good day and God Bless.
just a thought

Asheboro, NC

#8 Feb 12, 2013
Change wrote:
<quoted text>The jap companys are making more money now than ever more by slave Temporary labor. Just calm down. I have been talking to a lot of people in Nashville and most had no idea just how wrong the temps are being treated. I'm going to Nashville next month to help with the Bill since i have a lot of experance when it comes to Temporary Staffing. Were also talking about having a percentage of Temps working in offices if they have the degrees to do so. This is in its first stages and nothing is written in stone. You should see something written around the end of summer. Good day and God Bless.
YOU are NOT someone that needs to represent the PEOPLE of Tennessee. YOU are a racist when you keep referring to "Jap". The war was in the 40's, it is OVER. Also, you seem that you need some schooling yourself, it would seem a person of your stature that you should know how to spell "experance", "were" (we're). I get it now, since you have "experance" with temps that you are somewhat involved with hiring of them. You are just another person involved with lobbying in Nashville. Go back up north.
Change

New Tazewell, TN

#9 Feb 12, 2013
just a thought wrote:
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YOU are NOT someone that needs to represent the PEOPLE of Tennessee. YOU are a racist when you keep referring to "Jap". The war was in the 40's, it is OVER. Also, you seem that you need some schooling yourself, it would seem a person of your stature that you should know how to spell "experance", "were" (we're). I get it now, since you have "experance" with temps that you are somewhat involved with hiring of them. You are just another person involved with lobbying in Nashville. Go back up north.
Japs is short hand for Japanese. Why are you against the poor workers of Tennessee? Is it because of your Management position at your "Japanese" company? Are you afraid you will wind up working as a Temp? You keep changing your name. Why is that? You liberals like to throw that word "Racist" around when you liberals know nothing about racism. Oh and its too cold to go north. Too much snow!lol The good news is that we have a couple more people on board for this Bill. The only problem will be the Governor since most of his workers are "Slaves" working 20 hours or less at Minimum wage.
Time2MOVE

United States

#10 Feb 12, 2013
Yeah....you go ahead and push that bill.

Go ahead and chip away at the business and labor FREEDOMS that have allowed TN to be such a great place (compared to many other states) to live, work, and have a BUSINESS.

Yeah, that's it. GREAT Idea.

Hey, maybe Michigan would like to be our sister state.
Change

New Tazewell, TN

#11 Feb 12, 2013
Time2MOVE wrote:
Yeah....you go ahead and push that bill.
Go ahead and chip away at the business and labor FREEDOMS that have allowed TN to be such a great place (compared to many other states) to live, work, and have a BUSINESS.
Yeah, that's it. GREAT Idea.
Hey, maybe Michigan would like to be our sister state.
Thanks for your approval. I knew you would finally see it my way. And the hard working Temporary workers thanks you also. Would you like to go to Nashville with me and help get this bill passed?
Temp

New Tazewell, TN

#12 Feb 12, 2013
Change wrote:
<quoted text>Japs is short hand for Japanese. Why are you against the poor workers of Tennessee? Is it because of your Management position at your "Japanese" company? Are you afraid you will wind up working as a Temp? You keep changing your name. Why is that? You liberals like to throw that word "Racist" around when you liberals know nothing about racism. Oh and its too cold to go north. Too much snow!lol The good news is that we have a couple more people on board for this Bill. The only problem will be the Governor since most of his workers are "Slaves" working 20 hours or less at Minimum wage.
Hope you get something done. DTR expects me to do more work for less than what they are paying the regular employees. I DON'T THINK SOO. They will never hire me anyways so what do i have to prove. They have already passed me up last time and i was never out for anything and half of the 1's they hired missed more days than i did and i worked my ass off for them and worked over everytime they needed me too. Thats how DTR treats its temps.
just a thought

Asheboro, NC

#13 Feb 12, 2013
Change wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for your approval. I knew you would finally see it my way. And the hard working Temporary workers thanks you also. Would you like to go to Nashville with me and help get this bill passed?
Oh my, you are wrong on so many points. First, that post you are replying to with this WAS NOT ME. Secondly, you called me a liberal, what in my writings would give you that idea? I have NEVER been called a liberal except by someone as ignorant as you that does not know the meaning. That would be like calling Obama a conservative to call me a liberal. I will eat crow if the bill, hmmm I don't even know the bill # but of course YOU can't even give me the number yet, passes. Thirdly, nope I am not any part of the management you speak of. Fourthly, "Jap" is an insult as the word "n****r" is to a black. Lastly, do you deny that you are not or have not been a yankee (from up north)? In summation, the other poster said it exactly, why do you think so many plants and companies want to move their companies south? Why are so many of them in trouble? It is really simple. UNIONS. Does that really sound like a liberal???? Get real.
Really

Harrogate, TN

#14 Feb 12, 2013
Change wrote:
<quoted text>"they may just decide to close up shop and move to a state where they can continue utilizing the temp staffing". Don't you mean "Abusing the temp staffing"? How would you feel working next to a person making twice the pay doing the same job. The Japs are taking advantage of American workers and the only ones who is against it is Management of these jap companies. I say they need to have Temporary people in the offices. A lot of Temporary people are qualitified (and do a better job)to work in Human Resources and other Management positions but you never see them doing those jobs. I just got back from Nashville and this is one of the things that some people want to change and make Tennessee a better state to live in and work in. This Temporary Staffing thing has gotten out of hand and its time to change. Its just talk now and the Bill should be ready at the end of this year. Hopefully!!!
To tell you the truth, my husband worked as a temp worker for quite some time, and even though it bothered us to see the permanent workers doing the same work making a few dollars more an hour, and we really could have used the benefits, it was part of the process for him to finally be offered a permanent position. The way we looked at it, at the time, was that we were thankful he had a job to go to, even if it was through temporary staffing.

Like I said, if people want to make it less advantageous for the manufacturing plants to stay in TN, why not just pack up and move to GA, NC, SC or another place where they can run their business. Even with the temp service, the employees are being paid above minimum wage. It's called a temp service because they utilize those employees when business picks up. As with the economy in the recent years, even though it's on the upswing finally, business may boom one month and be low the next month, so until the economy stabilizes, your phantom "bill" could prove to put a lot of these temp workers completely out of a job and take manufacturing jobs completely out of TN. As the economy continues to strengthen, then I'm sure there will be a lot more permanent hiring of temp workers in companies.
just a thought

Asheboro, NC

#15 Feb 12, 2013
By the way, have you read any of the other threads on Topix about DTR? It sure seems like there is more going on there than WORKING. Could that be some answers to your own questions about why certain things don't or won't happen?
Change

New Tazewell, TN

#16 Feb 13, 2013
just a thought wrote:
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Oh my, you are wrong on so many points. First, that post you are replying to with this WAS NOT ME. Secondly, you called me a liberal, what in my writings would give you that idea? I have NEVER been called a liberal except by someone as ignorant as you that does not know the meaning. That would be like calling Obama a conservative to call me a liberal. I will eat crow if the bill, hmmm I don't even know the bill # but of course YOU can't even give me the number yet, passes. Thirdly, nope I am not any part of the management you speak of. Fourthly, "Jap" is an insult as the word "n****r" is to a black. Lastly, do you deny that you are not or have not been a yankee (from up north)? In summation, the other poster said it exactly, why do you think so many plants and companies want to move their companies south? Why are so many of them in trouble? It is really simple. UNIONS. Does that really sound like a liberal???? Get real.
I wouldn't call someone "ignorant" in a post like yours. Are you Japanese? If not then how do you know what is offensive to the Japanese and second, the blacks being "N****R" comment you made was uncalled for. I think we know who the real racist on here is. And to hate "Yankees" like you do is uncalled for too. Who said anything about "UNIONS" anyway? And to answer your question about companys moving south, SLAVE LABOR!!!Temporary Staffing to be Politically Correct. This bill is in its early stages and it needs people in Nashville to back it before writing the bill and if you can read and have read my other comments, you should understand that it hasn't even been put on paper so there is no number for the bill yet. I know who the real "ignorant" person is and its not me. And also look up the term "Short hand", you might learn something!!
Change

New Tazewell, TN

#17 Feb 13, 2013
Really wrote:
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To tell you the truth, my husband worked as a temp worker for quite some time, and even though it bothered us to see the permanent workers doing the same work making a few dollars more an hour, and we really could have used the benefits, it was part of the process for him to finally be offered a permanent position. The way we looked at it, at the time, was that we were thankful he had a job to go to, even if it was through temporary staffing.
Like I said, if people want to make it less advantageous for the manufacturing plants to stay in TN, why not just pack up and move to GA, NC, SC or another place where they can run their business. Even with the temp service, the employees are being paid above minimum wage. It's called a temp service because they utilize those employees when business picks up. As with the economy in the recent years, even though it's on the upswing finally, business may boom one month and be low the next month, so until the economy stabilizes, your phantom "bill" could prove to put a lot of these temp workers completely out of a job and take manufacturing jobs completely out of TN. As the economy continues to strengthen, then I'm sure there will be a lot more permanent hiring of temp workers in companies.
Do you really believe that a company will pack up and move? REALLY? The cost, time and loss of business just to avoid paying a decent wage would be stupid for the company. These company's like to threaten its Employee's with this but they know that it would be in the company's best interest to stay put and pay a better wage. I've seen some "Ignorant" comments but yours takes the cake!! I would say that you deserve to work as a Temp but i think you are really working in top Management for a Jap (short hand for Japanese)company.
Really

Harrogate, TN

#18 Feb 13, 2013
Oh yeah, that's me, working in top management. lol. No actually I have seen several companies pack up and leave when it's no longer to their advantage. Plano, there are a few plants in Knoxville that were union, that told their employees one day, not too long ago, okay well see ya. The union couldn't help them then. So yes, I think one would. Now England's, no they would never close up shop and move, because they were founded here, they are based here, and even though they have a couple of plants in other states, they are a local, family run business who would never leave the safety of being top dog in the community. Yeap, I know some of the personally.

But other plants that came here because there was an incentive,(usually tax breaks or some other local incentive to bring in new jobs) why the heck wouldn't they leave. If they are going to be forced to do something that is going to affect their bottom line, then it is no longer profitable to stay. There are so many places that are thriving with industrial business, and have a willing workforce at their disposal, then it may take a hit to actually move the equipment, etc, but they would save money in the end. Trust me, there are places outside of TN who would bend over backwards to have some of the bigger industries move into their areas, and would make it more than beneficial. Again, I was a wife of a temp worker, and we had to make all the necessary budget cuts, so I get their position and I empathize with it. I'm not taking the company's side, I'm just telling you more than likely what would happen, and it's just reality. You think that the companies come to TN because they love the area? No. They come when there is an incentive to help them grow their business with a profitable margin.
Change

New Tazewell, TN

#19 Feb 13, 2013
Really wrote:
Oh yeah, that's me, working in top management. lol. No actually I have seen several companies pack up and leave when it's no longer to their advantage. Plano, there are a few plants in Knoxville that were union, that told their employees one day, not too long ago, okay well see ya. The union couldn't help them then. So yes, I think one would. Now England's, no they would never close up shop and move, because they were founded here, they are based here, and even though they have a couple of plants in other states, they are a local, family run business who would never leave the safety of being top dog in the community. Yeap, I know some of the personally.
But other plants that came here because there was an incentive,(usually tax breaks or some other local incentive to bring in new jobs) why the heck wouldn't they leave. If they are going to be forced to do something that is going to affect their bottom line, then it is no longer profitable to stay. There are so many places that are thriving with industrial business, and have a willing workforce at their disposal, then it may take a hit to actually move the equipment, etc, but they would save money in the end. Trust me, there are places outside of TN who would bend over backwards to have some of the bigger industries move into their areas, and would make it more than beneficial. Again, I was a wife of a temp worker, and we had to make all the necessary budget cuts, so I get their position and I empathize with it. I'm not taking the company's side, I'm just telling you more than likely what would happen, and it's just reality. You think that the companies come to TN because they love the area? No. They come when there is an incentive to help them grow their business with a profitable margin.
If memory serves me correct, Plano went out of business due to no Management. And from what i was told the same people that caused Plano to shut down are the same ones who are running DTR in the ground. Thats just what the rumor has been for years. I did hear today that DTR is planning to hire some Temporary workers but my concern is how many Regular Employees will they fire to make room for these positions? People in Nashville are looking at 6 months for company's to hire instead of 3 months. Its about time someone looks out for our workers without getting Unions involved. I don't like Unions!!!Which company's packed up and left, you know the ones you personally seen? Its good to have a conversation instead of fighting on here and i Thank You. An open mouth is a closed mind. Looking forward to more from you. It would be a mistake for me NOT to listen to you and others. Have a good evening.
Really

Harrogate, TN

#20 Feb 13, 2013
Change wrote:
<quoted text>If memory serves me correct, Plano went out of business due to no Management. And from what i was told the same people that caused Plano to shut down are the same ones who are running DTR in the ground. Thats just what the rumor has been for years. I did hear today that DTR is planning to hire some Temporary workers but my concern is how many Regular Employees will they fire to make room for these positions? People in Nashville are looking at 6 months for company's to hire instead of 3 months. Its about time someone looks out for our workers without getting Unions involved. I don't like Unions!!!Which company's packed up and left, you know the ones you personally seen? Its good to have a conversation instead of fighting on here and i Thank You. An open mouth is a closed mind. Looking forward to more from you. It would be a mistake for me NOT to listen to you and others. Have a good evening.
I would actually be interested in seeing how the wording of the bill would be, because it may work if they offer the company other incentives but mandate that they can't keep stringing the temp staff along indefinitely. I know the hardworking temps would appreciate it, but again, my fear would be that they would pack their bags and run. You're welcome for the conversation. I do know how belittling it is for the temp staff, even though they are necessary in every aspect, to have to do the same work for less pay with no end in sight. Keep us updated when you hear more.

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