Chaos in New Rochelle: Hundreds of un...

Chaos in New Rochelle: Hundreds of unruly teens ejected from New Roc City

There are 62 comments on the Journal News story from Apr 10, 2007, titled Chaos in New Rochelle: Hundreds of unruly teens ejected from New Roc City. In it, Journal News reports that:

“We just had too many people here at once.”

NEW ROCHELLE - Hundreds of unruly teenagers faced off with police in riot gear at the New Roc City entertainment complex last night, leading to at least one injury and four robberies, police said. via Journal News

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Shane

Nyack, NY

#1 Apr 12, 2007
this is wack
Belina Macyntyre

AOL

#2 May 15, 2007
New Rochelle is the 'calcutta of westchester county" Despite attempts by its Mayor, Noah Bramson, " the prince of platitudes" the Police Commissioner, and developers Capelli and his " silent partner" Trump to paint a pretty picture and DENY reality, gang violence, drugs, prostitution, and racial tensions abound ! New Rochelle is a very expensive slum, and like slums everywhere, it has lots of problems. In addition to the problems listed above, it has a gigantic illegal alien population that lives in overcrowded, unsafe, and unhealthy conditions throughout the city. In short, New Rochelle is the 'calcutta" of westchester--it is an eye sore and an embarrassment for those living in it and around it. Good luck selling 750.000 tiny, condos right next to the sewer that is New Roc city--or as the kids on the street call is " Duane reade's where any drug can be bought any time of the day.
john

Raritan, NJ

#3 Jun 4, 2007
this is true i recently moved to larchmont because of these problems
June

Stone Mountain, GA

#4 Jun 8, 2007
I hate to read this. I was raised in New Rochelle,was thinking about coming back. I think I'll stay in Georgia.
george

Hasbrouck Heights, NJ

#5 Jun 18, 2007
there are only very few isolated incidents in new rochelle. It has one of the lowest crime rates in the state and it is a great city
Latoya

Norwalk, CT

#6 Jun 25, 2007
this is dumb i love new rochelle my school is great the only problem is there isnt any good jobs avaliable for teens thats why these new buildings should be stores

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#7 Jun 26, 2007
Latoya wrote:
this is dumb i love new rochelle my school is great the only problem is there isnt any good jobs avaliable for teens thats why these new buildings should be stores
Latoya,

Call city hall. There is a jobs program hiring now. they are training teens, and getting them subsidized jobs in the private sector.

The nasty AOL (typical AOL) comment above is untrue. New Rochelle is one of the finest, safest, and most diverse (in the most positive sense) ofAmerica's small cities.

The young thugs of this story were ejected from the NYC car show. A few kids had gone to a movie in New Roc City enetertainment complex. They texted (text'd?) their friends; who were looking for something to do. They text'd other kids, and suddenly, by "TEXT-MESSAGE CHAIN-REACTION" there were hundreds of young NYC kids looking for fun. They became unruly, and were sent home on the train by police.
This technologic-historical event could happen anywhere...it occured at New Rochelle. It was a spontanious CYBER-PARTY which got out of hand.
pss

Norwalk, CT

#8 Jul 18, 2007
the only thing that the city govt of NR is concerned with is what fat pocket developer can they give the next tax abatemnet to.
Rochelle

Hyde Park, NY

#9 Jul 24, 2007
It's true that New Rochelle from the building in front of the train station up to CVS building in North Avenue is a dump! I'm so surprised the city hall overlooks the area in front of them. While the mayor permits free housing in places like Park Place, Sickles and Lockwood Avenue (I'm sure I'm missing a lot more) the commerce on North Avenue will keep being directed to them - like 99 cents stores, Salvation Army store, and the like. I've been here for many years and only see a lot of gigantic buildings been built, but no attention to the small street commerce other than a coat of paint and cheap awnings that will last for over a year. I still stand for the idea of getting rid of all these small shops in North Avenue and building a huge Mall with department stores to support the area new owners who are moving to town new developments like the Trump Plaza. Another issue is the unbeliavable local taxes. Houses around 600K are paying an average of $15K per year in taxes. I'm moving to Connecticut. Even in Greenwich, the most upscale town around, average taxes are around $5K per year, and it's just 15 minutes from here. I also see religious places sprouting in strip malls all over New Rochelle and one more Synagogue being built in Wykagyl, while we already have two other Synagogues within walking distance. I am not against religion, I'm religious myself, but I think there are more houses of worship in New Rochelle than anywhere in the country. And the illegal immigrants... I'm tired of encountering illegal immigrants everywhere I shop. I see them in Franchises like Macdonald's and actually everywhere. And the worse, they have too much attitude. How can a person come to a country and get employed without even learning the language properly? They don't really care. They know someone will employ them. As the guy that came to cut a tree in my property, an englishman, who told me he's been in the US for 19 years and the government doesn't even know he exists. He has no documents. Appalling!
erick

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Jul 25, 2007
i lived in new rochelle ive seen alot of things happenn there gang violence drugs everything its a slum to belive it as sone may call it THE HOOD its not its just not a good place to raise a child like me u get involved in alot of crap anlot of drugs gangs and every thing i romed tha city when i was a young chilid to belive it i was about 6yrs old running arround my moms was workin and my babysitters were on drugs so they would forget ive seen some bad thigs

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#11 Jul 25, 2007
Rochelle wrote:
It's true that New Rochelle from the building in front of the train station up to CVS building in North Avenue is a dump! I'm so surprised the city hall overlooks the area in front of them. While the mayor permits free housing in places like Park Place, Sickles and Lockwood Avenue (I'm sure I'm missing a lot more) the commerce on North Avenue will keep being directed to them - like 99 cents stores, Salvation Army store, and the like. I've been here for many years and only see a lot of gigantic buildings been built, but no attention to the small street commerce other than a coat of paint and cheap awnings that will last for over a year. I still stand for the idea of getting rid of all these small shops in North Avenue and building a huge Mall with department stores to support the area new owners who are moving to town new developments like the Trump Plaza. Another issue is the unbeliavable local taxes. Houses around 600K are paying an average of $15K per year in taxes. I'm moving to Connecticut. Even in Greenwich, the most upscale town around, average taxes are around $5K per year, and it's just 15 minutes from here. I also see religious places sprouting in strip malls all over New Rochelle and one more Synagogue being built in Wykagyl, while we already have two other Synagogues within walking distance. I am not against religion, I'm religious myself, but I think there are more houses of worship in New Rochelle than anywhere in the country. And the illegal immigrants... I'm tired of encountering illegal immigrants everywhere I shop. I see them in Franchises like Macdonald's and actually everywhere. And the worse, they have too much attitude. How can a person come to a country and get employed without even learning the language properly? They don't really care. They know someone will employ them. As the guy that came to cut a tree in my property, an englishman, who told me he's been in the US for 19 years and the government doesn't even know he exists. He has no documents. Appalling!


You are right about the taxes. That is because half of the dwelling units in New Rochelle are apartments, which contribute more than half of the costs, but only 12% of the taxes. Home owners subsidize apartment-house owners.

On North Ave., there is a major project to renew the whole artery. The work is nearly complete up near Iona, and it will proceed on down, to the downtown. Be patient.

Neither Rome nor New Rochelle were built in a day.
FOR REAL

AOL

#12 Jul 25, 2007
Rome had its' golden age and so has New Rochelle. Unfortinately it is over for them
both. New Rochelle is a shell of the city it
once was and no amount of spin will change the
truth.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#13 Jul 26, 2007
FOR REAL wrote:
Rome had its' golden age and so has New Rochelle. Unfortinately it is over for them
both. New Rochelle is a shell of the city it
once was and no amount of spin will change the
truth.
I piss on you, looser.

New Rochelle is at the dawn of a second age of her greatness.

Under the do-nothing administrations of the 60's through the 90's, it did become a shell. Now, with a dynamic, engaged city government, New Rochele is the best place to live,(and the best investment) in America.

Why don't you go away, and practice with some Greek Chorus?
For Real

AOL

#14 Jul 26, 2007
The Mighty Mr. Bill has finally dropped his
drawers and revealed himself to be what he really is -- a foul mouthed gas bag.
As for the Greek Chorus -- please translate or
are you shivering in cowardly fear from talking
in plain English? Ad hominem attacks reveal the shallowness of your thinking processes --
attack the messenger. The dynamic city
government asside -- who is going to live
in the multitudinous high priced condos being
built everywhere when the greatest need in
New Rochelle is affordable housing? The middle class has no one to speak for itself--
the rich and the poverty stricken are each
helped in various ways. But who is assisting
and helping those who pay the preponderance of
taxes and do the preponderance of the work that solidifies the infrastructure that runs
the city?--i.e. the middle income factor.
Keep on "spinning" Mr. Bill.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#15 Jul 28, 2007
For Real wrote:
The Mighty Mr. Bill has finally dropped his
drawers and revealed himself to be what he really is -- a foul mouthed gas bag.
As for the Greek Chorus -- please translate or
are you shivering in cowardly fear from talking
in plain English? Ad hominem attacks reveal the shallowness of your thinking processes --
attack the messenger. The dynamic city
government asside -- who is going to live
in the multitudinous high priced condos being
built everywhere when the greatest need in
New Rochelle is affordable housing? The middle class has no one to speak for itself--
the rich and the poverty stricken are each
helped in various ways. But who is assisting
and helping those who pay the preponderance of
taxes and do the preponderance of the work that solidifies the infrastructure that runs
the city?--i.e. the middle income factor.
Keep on "spinning" Mr. Bill.
A great many working people are now living all over New Rochelle, in fine, safe, affordable homes.

Even more are being built, on Clinton Ave.

No other city or village in Westchester has better housing for middle income, and for the poor working class. Now, because of national Republican Party parsimony and hate, the programs to help working people stay in good housing are going away,(Section 8 especially.)

No other City in NYS, with the exception of NYC has a more diverse population, and cosmopolitan feel.

If you want even more housing for middle income and poor, why don't you attack the surrounding towns which have NONE, and are building NONE: Scarsdale, Pelham, Larchmont, Harrison, Rye, Bronxville.

It is not the job of New Rochelle's taxpayers to provide a home for every poor and working person in America, or even Westchester County.

The pre-ponderance of taxes are not paid by missle income, infact, they provide a very small percent.

When you deserve a slap down you get it. That doesn't make me high and mighty, but you attack the municipality which has done so much for so many. No Westchester City provides a better education.

Go attack Bronxville and Larchmont if you want more done for the poor, they do NOTHING.

And, go attack George Bush.
An unbiased observer

AOL

#16 Jul 29, 2007
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
A great many working people are now living all over New Rochelle, in fine, safe, affordable homes.
Even more are being built, on Clinton Ave.
No other city or village in Westchester has better housing for middle income, and for the poor working class. Now, because of national Republican Party parsimony and hate, the programs to help working people stay in good housing are going away,(Section 8 especially.)
No other City in NYS, with the exception of NYC has a more diverse population, and cosmopolitan feel.
If you want even more housing for middle income and poor, why don't you attack the surrounding towns which have NONE, and are building NONE: Scarsdale, Pelham, Larchmont, Harrison, Rye, Bronxville.
It is not the job of New Rochelle's taxpayers to provide a home for every poor and working person in America, or even Westchester County.
The pre-ponderance of taxes are not paid by missle income, infact, they provide a very small percent.
When you deserve a slap down you get it. That doesn't make me high and mighty, but you attack the municipality which has done so much for so many. No Westchester City provides a better education.
Go attack Bronxville and Larchmont if you want more done for the poor, they do NOTHING.
And, go attack George Bush.
Mr. Bill:
you make some cogent points on the things being done
in New Rochelle for the benefit of all. However,
true to your liberal myopic bias, you focus your
rage and discontent upon the Republican Party and
George Bush and lack the willingness or ability to
reason that the problems present either in this country, this state, or in New Rochelle do not suddenly drop upon us overnight like the dew nor do
they have their source in a particular political party
or the present White House resident. There is enough
blame to go around in all directions. Most of all it
is the apathy, disinterest, and self-promotion of each
voting citizen(or non-voting) over a period of decades along with the
disingenousness and self-serving politicos of all stripes that brought us to a very sad state of affairs
for our nation. It would be better for all those who
voice their opinions on forums such as this one to
take a few moments and examine themselves to see if they are making right choices each day as they go about their business. Do they offer their employer a
full days labor or do they bitch about not getting
"theirs." Do they look upon each individual they meet
as a person with dreams, talents, and needs just like themselves or do they make snap judgements about them
because of their color, pocketbook, address, or political party? Do they respect the fact that all
including those who have not been born yet have a right to life or is it only the ones people are willing to allow on this earth. If you people who
hate George Bush so much think you are so much wiser
and more loving and respectful of people's rights
-than ask yourself how can you support the cultural
mandate that says Abortion is a right to fight for..ergo the marching theme of Hilary, Berack, J.E.,
and all the other clones of like fiber?
Well Bill enjoy your life in New Rochelle-I have no
problem with that - just your narrowmindedness and
your willingness to carry out "bladder warfare"on people who differ with you.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#17 Jul 29, 2007
Our national problems, like our local problems, have been brewing for decades.
Our citizens are not overly engaged, as are the people in most cities. Many are living day to day, hand to mouth; yet we have a full civic life; with many people active across the political, religious, cultural, and charitable spectrum.
New Rochelle just does not need the likes of you dumping on its' renaissance.

Your odd defense of Mr. Bush, and your bizarre dragging in of abortion from nowhere show you to be a nut. Do you next wish to attack blacks, or gays?
And yes, everybody I know is so much wiser
and more loving and respectful of people's rights than is George Bush. He is the worst president in our history.

Your change of names, but not of style betray a lack of sophistication, yet you are obviously educated.

Your lack of cogent arguments, and your failure to recognize that New Rochelle is already doing so much for so many; combined with your unreasonable hate of New Rochelle make me wonder why you care at all to dump on a city on it's way back to the top. Are you jealous of something?

Perhaps you would be happier moving to Bronxville, and writing from there how nice your white-bread life has become?
An unbiased observer

AOL

#18 Jul 30, 2007
R. Bill:
This will be my last communique to you sir-
and I believe it will be the best for both
of us. Is it sophisticated to tell someone
that you "Piss on them"? And to correct a certain error in your observations --I am not
the same person to whom you addressed that
statement. And by the way how did you get
the impression that I am a gay or black hater
from the fact that I only defended George
Bush and the Republican party Of which I am
not a member? And am I a nut to assume that
a liberal such as yourself and all your fellow
Bush haters would be an Abortion defender--the
statistical facts cannot be obscurred here for
basically any proponents of Democratic thought
are just as I said -pro death. Now as to
my lunacy and your absurd inferrence that I
would be happier in Bronxville as my "white
bread" life would be enhanced there. Let me
clue you in about myself. I am retired on a
very low fixed income which necessitates that
I and my spouse watch each penny we spend.
I have had as delightful co-workers and friends in my working past people of all races
and sexual orientation. I may have not agreed with some of their views or life choices but
no one and I repeat no one viewed me as a
narrow-minded hater or bigot. You sir however
seem to fit that particular role exquisitely
and your reasoning powers betray you as a pompous blowhard. And by the way aside from
your racial slur of my white bread life --I
only eat dark bread --fiber you know is very
important. Best wished to you. As for how
a NR subject got to this point it is the way of
most forums to go off on tangents once the
character of certain contributors become obvious. I have nothing against NR as I went
to school there and lived there many years.
Slash

Riverhead, NY

#19 Aug 2, 2007
I moved to Larchmont from Long Island in April and I get frightened whenever I have to drive towards New Rochelle. I never have a normal experience when I do anything in New Rochelle. Whether it is simply picking up some shaving cream in CVS or watching a flick at the IMAX, something stupid happens. The service is very slow in all establishments and the biggest weirdos tend to frequent them. Examples: Having two (super slow) cashiers take care of the movie theater ticket sales on a sunday evening in the summer; Allowing 3+ idiotic parents bring their crying infants with strollers into the movie theater; Then these low lifes talk and yell inside the movie theater, some even answer their PHONES!?!---How stupid and inconsiderate do you have to be people? The service in all other New Rochelle stores I have been in are also horrible but I cannot list them now as I have to go to the bathroom...Later
Jay

Greenvale, NY

#20 Aug 3, 2007
Unfortunately, I live in New Rochelle, and I feel quite safe here. I live on the border of larchmont and New Rochelle, and I have also met some weird people in Larchmont. There are things wrong with every town. Unfortuantely, you might of had some bad experiences with New Rochelle, then maybe you shouldnt come back. I find nothing wrong with New Rochelle. I think it is a great city, and it is gettting better.

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