Similar to War on Christmas

Similar to War on Christmas

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worried

Lake Jackson, TX

#1 Dec 7, 2012
An elementary school in North Carolina censored a first-grade student’s Veterans Day poem by removing a line that referenced her grandfather’s belief in God.

The West Marion Elementary School student was supposed to read the poem at a Nov. 8 Veterans Day ceremony to honor her grandfather, a Vietnam veteran.

The deleted line read:“He prayed to God for peace, he prayed to God for strength.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/06/school-remo...
worried

Lake Jackson, TX

#2 Dec 7, 2012
Why cant this lil girl have her poem? She's not trying to promote GOD or push it on anyone. She is simply refering to what her Heroic VETERAN grandfather did in a time of battle fighting for our country and its freedoms like his grand daughters FREEOM OF SPEECH!

And I'm to believe there is no war on this stuff????

Stop peeing on my foot and telling me its raining!
worried

Lake Jackson, TX

#3 Dec 10, 2012
No take on his Vig or Woodsman.

How do you explain this one (just like Rhode Island and Nativity Scenes)????

Give us that EXPERT BS you preach!
worried

Lake Jackson, TX

#4 Dec 11, 2012
????
Gigures you guy's cant address this issue....its too difficult to distort this one.....not much room for twisting huh!!!!!!!!!

“Resurected”

Since: Feb 10

Destin, Fl

#5 Dec 11, 2012
The guy sounds like a pushover, but I don't live in Rhode Island so I don't really care. That's for his residents to judge.

“Resurected”

Since: Feb 10

Destin, Fl

#6 Dec 11, 2012
From the article:

But in an interview with CBS News, First Amendment Center president and CEO Ken Paulson said the school was legally obligated to delete the reference to God, because public schools cannot sanction religious messages in captive environments like classrooms or assemblies.

“When the little girl wrote the poem and included a reference to God, she had every right to do that,” Paulson told CBS News.“The First Amendment protects all Americans. She had every right to mention God,[but] that dynamic changed when they asked her to read it at an assembly.”

There is your answer.
worried

Lake Jackson, TX

#7 Dec 11, 2012
that’s not an answer...that’s the same load of crap that is said about "The Pledge of Allegiance"

that has been in American classrooms since its creation!

Why are these things being taken out intentionally is the question?????

And the answer is not what some CEO talking to CBS news cites in reference to a local law!
Vigilandy wrote:
From the article:
But in an interview with CBS News, First Amendment Center president and CEO Ken Paulson said the school was legally obligated to delete the reference to God, because public schools cannot sanction religious messages in captive environments like classrooms or assemblies.
“When the little girl wrote the poem and included a reference to God, she had every right to do that,” Paulson told CBS News.“The First Amendment protects all Americans. She had every right to mention God,[but] that dynamic changed when they asked her to read it at an assembly.”
There is your answer.
Meep

New Roads, LA

#8 Dec 11, 2012
worried wrote:
that’s the same load of crap that is said about "The Pledge of Allegiance"
that has been in American classrooms since its creation!
You don't really know history very well, do you?

At its creation in 1892, this is how the Pledge of Allegiance went:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

I'm also sure you're quite aware that the creator of the Pledge, Francis Bellamy, was a Socialist and a minister who believed that redistribution of wealth was an inherent teaching of Jesus?

Woodsman_1

Since: Jul 10

Ventress

#9 Dec 11, 2012
Meep wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't really know history very well, do you?
At its creation in 1892, this is how the Pledge of Allegiance went:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
I'm also sure you're quite aware that the creator of the Pledge, Francis Bellamy, was a Socialist and a minister who believed that redistribution of wealth was an inherent teaching of Jesus?
You're correct and it's simple research for those who refuse to be misled.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Alle...
Dawn Marcelle

Marysville, WA

#10 Dec 11, 2012
As I read these posts with an open mind the Worried Creep makes a valid point in their own creepy way.(sorry but you're kinda creepy with your over zealous Christian thumping attacks) I been searching all over for a copy of this little girls poem because I'm curious what was allowed to be said. If anyone can find a copy of the full poem in its original form I'd like to read it.

What disturbs me is that they invited this child to share her heartfelt emotions but told her to change it. Really? It was either appropriate or it wasnt. Telling her to change it is a message that she was wrong.

One parent, one, came to the school and said they didn't want the word "GOD" used in this ceremony. And the ADF is quoted "Being a six-year-old, and not knowing her rights, she did what she was told,”[and removed the offending stanza from her poem]“When the demand from this [single parent] was heard, the rights of another stopped. It did so by hushing the voice of a six-year-old girl.”

“The court has merely held [up a law] that the establishment clause of the First Amendment requires the state to be NEUTRAL in its relations with religious believers and non-believers.” NEUTRAL.

Isn't the better practice to encourage, or at least allow, all declarations of faith? Especially in grade school where our children can learn that not everyone believes the same way they do.

And that's OK.
worried

Lake Jackson, TX

#11 Dec 20, 2012
Life, liberty or your pursuit of happines
will not be endangered in any way because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game.
So what's the big deal?

It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire Book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going
home from the game.

But it's a Christian prayer, some will
argue.

Yes, and this is the United States ofAmerica, and Canada, countries founded on Christian principles.
According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect --
Somebody chanting Hare Krishna?
If I went to a football game in Jerusalem I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.
If I went to a soccer gam in Baghdad,
I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.
If I went to a ping pong match in China , I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.

And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't
bother me one bit.

When in Rome .... But what about the atheists? Is another argument.

What about them?

Nobody is asking them to be baptized.
We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear
plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer!
Or, just exercise their right to leave this country!
Unfortunately, one or two will call their lawyer.
One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is
going to shake the world's foundations.
Christians are just sick and tired of
turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights.
Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing.
Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying.

God, help us. And if that last sentence
offends you, well, just sue me.

The silent majority has been silent too
long. It's time we tell that one or two who scream loud enough to be
heard that the vast majority doesn't care what they want!


It's time we tell them, "You don't have
to pray; you don't have to say the Pledge of Allegiance; you don't have to
believe in God or attend services that honor Him.
That is your right, and we will honor your right;
But by gollly,You are no longer going to take our rights away.
We are fighting back, and we WILL WIN!"
God bless us one and all...Especially those who denounce Him, God bless America and Canada , despite all our faults,we are still the greatest nations of all. God bless our service men and women who
Are fighting to protect our right to pray
and worship God.

Let's make 2013 the year the silent
majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and
institutions. And our military forces come home from all the wars.

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