Pointe Coupee Parish School Board votes to challenge voucher system.

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Citizen Kane

United States

#1 Jun 8, 2012
Our school board has expressed interest in challenging Governor Jindal's voucher system. I guess the board fears loosing their higher performing students to private schools that will accept the vouchers. What amazes me is that the school board showed no interest in recovering a campus lost to the RSD. The RSD even met with board officials in order to come up with a collaborative plan to improve Pointe Coupee Central and the board refused collaboration efforts. After many years of neglect, the chickens have finally come home to roost. If the people of Pointe Coupee want change we should adamantly oppose the reelection of any current board members.

Since: Jul 10

Ventress

#5 Jun 10, 2012
Citizen Kane wrote:
Our school board has expressed interest in challenging Governor Jindal's voucher system. I guess the board fears loosing their higher performing students to private schools that will accept the vouchers. What amazes me is that the school board showed no interest in recovering a campus lost to the RSD. The RSD even met with board officials in order to come up with a collaborative plan to improve Pointe Coupee Central and the board refused collaboration efforts. After many years of neglect, the chickens have finally come home to roost. If the people of Pointe Coupee want change we should adamantly oppose the reelection of any current board members.
Quite frankly, it's the only solution.
There is not one current member concerned enough to stand up for better education or for his own beliefs in fear of alienating his political position amongst his fellow board members.
Tardy

Paulina, LA

#6 Jun 10, 2012
Furgettabotit! PC voters always vote for the same names. Look at the names on the plaque at PC Central when it was dedicated all the years ago. Some of the first names are changed, but the last names are the same. There is no hope for real change in an insular community like this.

The private schools are run by the good ol boy network, too. Look at all the drama at FRA, lately. If parents want their children to get a good education, the only effective answer is supplemental tutoring, either by a professional or by skilled parents.

The level of what we consider a good education has been dumbed down so much, it is shameful. In a global economy, our kids have no chance to compete. They don't even know what it means to compete! They don't know the meaning of real hard work or real studying.

How many could pass a simple eighth grade graduation test from 1900?
http://www.mindingthecampus.com/forum/2008/04...

Most can't speak any language other than English (and many do not speak English very well). Most do not grasp the basic rules of logic, reasoning, or debate....any or the critical thinking skills. Higher mathematics and its practical use are lost on them. Most have no knowledge of current events or the basics of how our government and legal system work. Compared to the competition at the global level, our kids stack up poorly, indeed.
g-money

Erwinville, LA

#7 Jun 10, 2012
PC board members are definately having a hard time figuring this school system,s problems.but moreso with the DRAMA at FRA and the HAVE MORES at catholic, I could not put that kind of pressure on my kids. voucher or no voucher.

Since: Jul 10

Ventress

#8 Jun 10, 2012
g-money wrote:
PC board members are definately having a hard time figuring this school system,s problems.but moreso with the DRAMA at FRA and the HAVE MORES at catholic, I could not put that kind of pressure on my kids. voucher or no voucher.
What's so hard about fiscal responsibility? They are responsible for only one high school in the parish and can't manage that! They won't even touch the other monster they created in the name of centralized, efficient, better education. Yes, a money saving educational disaster that cost taxpayers as well as students their future.
There is no corellation between this school boards' failure and private schools.
Or is there!!!!!
Check and see where most of their kids have obtained their education and diplomas over the last 40 years.
When an elected official doesn't believe in the system he represents and chooses to have his children attend non public schools as has been the case a steady define occurs. It will continue to decline in the public system in Louisiana, unfortunately, until a new mentality and value for education is reborn not only at the highest levels but in the home, where the hunger for learning begins and is nurtured to it's highest level.

The issues at the private and parochial schools have no bearing

Since: Jul 10

Ventress

#9 Jun 10, 2012
The issues at the private and parochial schools have no bearing on the dismal failure of the public school boards failure and comes across to me as a feeble attempt at deflection of obvious" inaction".
The word itself is definative of deliberate and lazy with no ideas or solutions.

It's gunna take some mighty extraordinary new members to even begin to effect change.
Tardy

Paulina, LA

#11 Jun 11, 2012
You are not going to get change in PC. We elect the same people or their descendants to all the positions here. We've had some better qualified candidates for school board and police jury. They always lose to the old family names. The folks with money support the status quo.
G- money

Erwinville, LA

#12 Jun 11, 2012
"woodsman" I'am not trying to deflect anything. I actually agree with you. if I had the power I would fire all of them. My point was,with the addition of a few Minority candidates through our voucher system and the bulling plus other things going on at those private/parochial schools in time will become problematic. get my meaning.

Since: Jul 10

Ventress

#13 Jun 11, 2012
G- money wrote:
"woodsman" I'am not trying to deflect anything. I actually agree with you. if I had the power I would fire all of them. My point was,with the addition of a few Minority candidates through our voucher system and the bulling plus other things going on at those private/parochial schools in time will become problematic. get my meaning.
I'm trying to "get your meaning" g-money. The thread us about the public school board.

You're worried about the affect of "a few minority candidates" entering the private schools through the voucher system and favoritism and " bullying" that has been going on in private and all schools since the beginning of time.

I do get your concern and appreciate it!

But most voucher students know they are disadvantaged only in economic terms. They have a will and desire to learn that many priviledged kids will never know.
And if you think degradation and teasing and bullying is bad at private schools you should check out the story of Tesa Middlebrook.
WEST FELICIANA EDUCATOR

Baton Rouge, LA

#14 Jun 11, 2012
That is very true!
I see it everyday!
Old Faithful

Baton Rouge, LA

#15 Jun 13, 2012
I agree with comments being made about the current condition of education in PC, however when do we as a community rally with each other to demand change. The conversation about change has beeen had in many forums, but there has been no unified plan amongst all the people of pointe coupee to change the future of education for all of our children. Jindle is proposing take-over of all low preforming schools with a letter grade of C,D,or F. If that comes to pass, RSD could take over every public school we have. All of Them....check the school report cards @ louisiana department of education. Obviously the board does not know what to do,and pointe coupee is to small to be caught up by politics larger than New Roads.
fact

Jarreau, LA

#16 Jun 14, 2012
tell the naacp to stay out of education and it will get better
Old Faithful

Baton Rouge, LA

#17 Jun 18, 2012
What does the naacp have to do with everyone taking responsibility for making education better for all students. A quality education is not for the few. The state of education is a parish problem.
Home Boy

Ventress, LA

#18 Jun 18, 2012
Why are most of the school board members' children attending private or parochial schools?

Since: Jul 10

Ventress

#19 Jun 18, 2012
Where would the PCP Public School Board get the money to challenge the voucher system?
Who would represent them?
Who would profit?
The "in house" lawyer?
Citizen Kane

Erwinville, LA

#20 Jun 18, 2012
This voucher program has the potential for some very negative outcomes. There are already two school in the Westlake area that are being looked at very hard. Their enrollment during the last school year between the two schools were 35 and 65 students respectively, and now they are offering over 138 voucher spots each without the physical facilities to handle the influx. School will begin to pop up everywhere just to get in on the cash, and the part that amazes me is the state voucher is worth more than the public school MFP allotment per child. So in essence, the state will fund a transfer at a higher rate than the school districts were getting per child. These students should also have to take the same standardized test that they would have taken had they remained in the previous school, since that is the method used to gauge the success or failure of the previous school, then and only then can you see if the system holds any merit,
no

Baton Rouge, LA

#21 Jun 19, 2012
Citizen Kane wrote:
This voucher program has the potential for some very negative outcomes. There are already two school in the Westlake area that are being looked at very hard. Their enrollment during the last school year between the two schools were 35 and 65 students respectively, and now they are offering over 138 voucher spots each without the physical facilities to handle the influx. School will begin to pop up everywhere just to get in on the cash, and the part that amazes me is the state voucher is worth more than the public school MFP allotment per child. So in essence, the state will fund a transfer at a higher rate than the school districts were getting per child. These students should also have to take the same standardized test that they would have taken had they remained in the previous school, since that is the method used to gauge the success or failure of the previous school, then and only then can you see if the system holds any merit,
You are starting to see Jindal's real agenda, which is to funnel state money to religious based schools. These schools have no accountability standards in place, so they can't be graded against the public schools. Many of them also teach absurd ideas instead of science, like that dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time.

This bill does nothing to improve education in Louisiana. All it does is move money from the disadvantaged to the religious schools. It stinks to high heaven.
RedTape

Baton Rouge, LA

#22 Jun 19, 2012
no wrote:
<quoted text>
You are starting to see Jindal's real agenda, which is to funnel state money to religious based schools. These schools have no accountability standards in place, so they can't be graded against the public schools. Many of them also teach absurd ideas instead of science, like that dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time.
This bill does nothing to improve education in Louisiana. All it does is move money from the disadvantaged to the religious schools. It stinks to high heaven.
The most idiotic comments I've heard in this whole voucher saga is that the state wants to let students choose schools that don't have to worry about the "red tape" that hampers the public schools. Who the heck do they think is laying out the "red tape"! You can't be the cause and solution to the same problem. Let the teachers teach and let the administrators set policies that work best for their schools. The state should go after the dead beat parents that don't do homework with their kids, that don't sign test papers, that don't make sure their child gets to school. The same parent that doesn't care about their child's education at the public school isn't going to care just b/c they are now at a private/charter school. 1 bad apple student in a classroom cab slow down the progress of the other 20+ students. But implementing such a program would not benefit the pocket books of Mr. Jindals partners in crime.
Fact

Jarreau, LA

#23 Jun 19, 2012
Old Faithful wrote:
What does the naacp have to do with everyone taking responsibility for making education better for all students. A quality education is not for the few. The state of education is a parish problem.
Education went down when they started mixing.
no

Baton Rouge, LA

#24 Jun 20, 2012
Fact wrote:
<quoted text>Education went down when they started mixing.
Nevr mind. U r rite.

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