Obama giving food stamps to Mexico

Obama giving food stamps to Mexico

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gun owner

United States

#1 Apr 27, 2013
You people have got to google this one.
Buster

Palmdale, CA

#2 Apr 27, 2013
You still have to use your brain when you Google something..you can't just fall for the first
hysterical propaganda hit piece you find. Idiot

Read all 3 major points. Facts are good things.

"First of all, the program was actually started by George W. Bush in 2004, not Obama. Here’s then-Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman announcing the new program in July of 2004:

Many Mexican Americans and Mexican nationals working within the United States have limited awareness of eligibility for Food Stamps and other nutrition programs such as Women, Infants and Children program and school meals. Additional barriers such as the language heightens the need for specialized outreach. The objectives under this agreement include new partnerships, communications outreach in both English and Spanish, and other activities to educate eligible populations.

Secondly, the program doesn’t actually provide food stamps to immigrants — that too was a product of a Bush-era Farm Bill — but merely information. And it does this not in Mexico, as some claim, but at the country’s 45 consulates across the U.S., which Veneman called “an ideal network to help with outreach for USDA nutrition programs.”

What this entails is educating consulate staff about the program (hence binational meetings on the program) and making sure brochure racks are adequately supplied with literature on the program, a USDA official, who asked not to be named because of the political delicacy of the issue, told Salon. The USDA does exactly the same thing with local charities, faith organizations and other places they might reach vulnerable populations, the official said.

Third, you can’t even qualify for food stamps as a non-citizen until you’ve been in the country legally for five years.“Undocumented workers are in no way eligible,” Melissa Boteach, who studies poverty at the Center for American Progress, told Salon.

Indeed, official USDA guidance notes,“SNAP eligibility has never been extended to undocumented non-citizens.” An immigrant hoping to take advantage of American food stamps would have to get a green card, move here, wait five years, and then cash in. It’s not exactly a get-rich-quick scheme.

There are some exceptions for children and the infirm, but fewer than 4 percent of food stamp users are non-citizen legal immigrants.

Why would the U.S. want to educate Mexican-Americans about nutrition assistance? Because Latinos have disproportionately high hunger rates."
wondering

Livonia, LA

#3 Apr 28, 2013
I find it unusual that you state you have to be legal for 5 years to recieve ENTITLEMENTS.Actually its very easy,you just cross the border right befor you give birth,have a now american baby,befor you go home get a p.o. box and recieve gov. checks and benefits.Of course you will cros the border once a month and cash your check,that is a real inconvienience.It has been stated that the bombers family was recieving entitlements from the day they arrived and during the time they were planning the attack.
Buster

Palmdale, CA

#4 Apr 29, 2013
wondering wrote:
I find it unusual that you state you have to be legal for 5 years to recieve ENTITLEMENTS.Actually its very easy,you just cross the border right befor you give birth,have a now american baby,befor you go home get a p.o. box and recieve gov. checks and benefits.Of course you will cros the border once a month and cash your check,that is a real inconvienience.It has been stated that the bombers family was recieving entitlements from the day they arrived and during the time they were planning the attack.
The information I posted is factual. What you state is uninformed myth-making. I know public policy is hard to comprehend for some people but you shouldn't just make things up or repeat what some illiterate yokel told you over the pickel barrel at the General Store.

Read the post and do a little rudimentary research before you spout foolishness.
by definition

Livonia, LA

#5 Apr 30, 2013
So,as a yokel at the pickle barrel,you are telling me that illegals having a child in the u.s. does not qualify for entitlements,maybe you need some time at the ole pickle barrel or better yet investigate this before proving your lack of facts.I understand enough of policy to know that a federal program called matoc has effectively killed off the rights of free market bidding on federal projects and created a monopoly that are the only companies allow to be prime contractors and are awarded federal contracts while 1,000's of american contractors are going broke since the federal dollars are held with 12 companies in this state as an example and many projects ran thru foriegn countries,i know my constitutional rights are being carved up and my healthcare is going down and my insurance going up.I know that the interest on my saving accounts is so low as to be non-existant while banks are still racking in huge credit card interest.May be you need to invest in a pickle barrel of your own.Living in country areas does not equate with lack of intellegence,we choose not to live stacked like rats in a big city and believe in personal freedom and don't desire a socialist state.Stay in the city and arm yourself with a baseball bat when your home is threatened and feel superior.
by definition

Livonia, LA

#6 Apr 30, 2013
Oh, i forgot,those in california,there's a push to allow people who are not u.s. citizens to serve on a jury.Federal lawbreakers allowed to pass judgement on u.s. citizens.Maybe we should send them humanitarian aid in the form of pickle barrels.
jeee

New Roads, LA

#7 Apr 30, 2013
by definition wrote:
Oh, i forgot,those in california,there's a push to allow people who are not u.s. citizens to serve on a jury.Federal lawbreakers allowed to pass judgement on u.s. citizens.Maybe we should send them humanitarian aid in the form of pickle barrels.
How are they federal lawbreakers if they are here legally? The law is for permanent legal residents, not illegal immigrants. And fluency in English is required. It's the same as legal residents being allowed to serve in the US military as they work towards citizenship. Do you feel that people who fight for our freedom to have a trial by jury should not be allowed to serve on that jury simply because they were not born here?
by definition

Livonia, LA

#8 May 1, 2013
They are federal lawbreakers if they are not registered legally in the u.s..f we open the door for this law,who's to limit this right to judge legal residents.This should be available only to born u.s. citizens,i'm sure the drug cartels would love this legislation as they could threaten peoples families left in hispanic countries at their trials,they just murder witnesses in mexico.Also,if this passes the boston bomber could have testified at your trial.
alan

Maringouin, LA

#9 May 1, 2013
Buster wrote:
You still have to use your brain when you Google something..you can't just fall for the first
hysterical propaganda hit piece you find. Idiot
Read all 3 major points. Facts are good things.
"First of all, the program was actually started by George W. Bush in 2004, not Obama. Here’s then-Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman announcing the new program in July of 2004:
Many Mexican Americans and Mexican nationals working within the United States have limited awareness of eligibility for Food Stamps and other nutrition programs such as Women, Infants and Children program and school meals. Additional barriers such as the language heightens the need for specialized outreach. The objectives under this agreement include new partnerships, communications outreach in both English and Spanish, and other activities to educate eligible populations.
Secondly, the program doesn’t actually provide food stamps to immigrants — that too was a product of a Bush-era Farm Bill — but merely information. And it does this not in Mexico, as some claim, but at the country’s 45 consulates across the U.S., which Veneman called “an ideal network to help with outreach for USDA nutrition programs.”
What this entails is educating consulate staff about the program (hence binational meetings on the program) and making sure brochure racks are adequately supplied with literature on the program, a USDA official, who asked not to be named because of the political delicacy of the issue, told Salon. The USDA does exactly the same thing with local charities, faith organizations and other places they might reach vulnerable populations, the official said.
Third, you can’t even qualify for food stamps as a non-citizen until you’ve been in the country legally for five years.“Undocumented workers are in no way eligible,” Melissa Boteach, who studies poverty at the Center for American Progress, told Salon.
Indeed, official USDA guidance notes,“SNAP eligibility has never been extended to undocumented non-citizens.” An immigrant hoping to take advantage of American food stamps would have to get a green card, move here, wait five years, and then cash in. It’s not exactly a get-rich-quick scheme.
There are some exceptions for children and the infirm, but fewer than 4 percent of food stamp users are non-citizen legal immigrants.
Why would the U.S. want to educate Mexican-Americans about nutrition assistance? Because Latinos have disproportionately high hunger rates."
you have just proven that tax payers are getting screwed by the feds!its time for it to stop!!!
jeee

New Roads, LA

#10 May 3, 2013
by definition wrote:
They are federal lawbreakers if they are not registered legally in the u.s..f we open the door for this law,who's to limit this right to judge legal residents.This should be available only to born u.s. citizens,i'm sure the drug cartels would love this legislation as they could threaten peoples families left in hispanic countries at their trials,they just murder witnesses in mexico.Also,if this passes the boston bomber could have testified at your trial.
You didn't read what I wrote, did you? How can a person here legally be a federal law breaker in regards to their citizenship?

Do you honestly believe that cartels are only made up of illegal immigrants? Do you think their crimes only effect illegal immigrants? They threaten families all the time ... families of illegals, residents, and citizens.

As I've never had a trial, the Boston bomber could not have testified at it. If I did have a trial though, and there was some sort of connection between him and myself, he could have testified at it. Even Vladimir Putin could have testified at my non-existent trial, if there was a reason for him to testify. Do you know what it means to testify at a trial? Do you know that citizenship has nothing to do with testimonies?

There are many valid arguments against the law. I can provide some myself and I'm sure others here could, as well. What you did was the complete opposite, though. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
what

Livonia, LA

#11 May 3, 2013
I didn''t say testify ,i said serve on the jury.
Yessir

United States

#12 May 3, 2013
Good simple to the point reply.....i like that!

Sounds like someone else was rambling incoherently.....some folks do like to hear themselves talk. Especially the self proclaimed savy smart lawyer types!
what wrote:
I didn''t say testify ,i said serve on the jury.
Gun Owner

United States

#13 May 3, 2013
Just enforce the laws we have now on immagration. Seal the border 1st and send the illegals back to Mexico. Apply if you want to come in this country, if you sneak in you have just broke our laws.
jeee

New Roads, LA

#14 May 3, 2013
what wrote:
I didn''t say testify ,i said serve on the jury.
Are you the person I quoted? If so, this is exactly what was said, "Also,if this passes the boston bomber could have testified at your trial." If you aren't the person that I quoted, then I didn't say you said anything.
what

Livonia, LA

#15 May 5, 2013
Jee,you are correct,i meant serve on a jury,that is even worse in my opinion.But i sure wouldn't want to be judged by a person who is from a foriegn country.73
jeee

New Roads, LA

#16 May 8, 2013
what wrote:
Jee,you are correct,i meant serve on a jury,that is even worse in my opinion.But i sure wouldn't want to be judged by a person who is from a foriegn country.73
Judged? You don't have to be American born to become a judge in the United States. Thankfully, we live in a country where people from Italy, England, Australia, Paraguay, Brazil, Zambia, Honduras, etc... can become citizens, get educations, and join us in our democratic process.
Cheese

Opelousas, LA

#17 Jun 13, 2013
Yep po
same ole

Livonia, LA

#18 Jun 14, 2013
Just enforce the laws on the books currently and the immigration problem is solved.We don't need new laws.Yes,i hope many different nationalities will come here,legally and enjoy the country.We must secure our borders as does every other country in the world.How are we really fighting terrorist when they can just cross our borders with any items they want and be ghosts in our society who are not watched and monitored as are american citizens.

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