Republican who opposed SB 5 punished

Republican who opposed SB 5 punished

There are 186 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Apr 7, 2011, titled Republican who opposed SB 5 punished. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

First, he clashed with his leadership over the collective-bargaining bill. Now, outspoken Sen.

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chuck

Overland Park, KS

#167 Apr 7, 2011
Wow, sounds like Senator Seitz could use a union!What do you think is going to happen when they get rid of the unions all together?
30 yr Cop

Columbus, OH

#168 Apr 7, 2011
Tennessee, I agree with some of what you said. When I testified at the House Committee on this bill, I touched on the subject you brought up. We voters last election made a terrible decision, we swept out one party for another. Now the Republican Party has the bigger "pack of Hyenas" and are tearing up the smaller pack. I now believe, as a disalusioned ex-Republican, we need a 50/50 split in all forms of government, so they compromise and fix our State. You mentioned that those who had their toes stepped on, didn't offer solutions? So where you there at the hearing? I was - They didn't want to hear the solutions that were offered. A lot went on at the hearing that was absurd and pathetic....a six month rookie out of the academy could've run that sham better. If I ever come back to my party...it will be because of men like Sen's. Seitz and Jim Hughes. And you're also right...we will survive this, but Kasich has no backing by the majority of any public servants. He has failed us in Leadership 101, and he spits on the very people he needs to pull this State out of this mess. He/They have not made one effort to call upon any of my Union leaders for any concessions. Nor has he led by example except to show he gives his Dept. heads raises on day one! Has any of us ever been given a raise on day one? Have you? You earn the raise as you earn respect. Quit talking about Celeste, Gilligan, Taft or Strickland. Let's all agree to blame Bush and move on to solutions.

You worry about Tenn, we WILL take care of Ohio. The solution is coming in a different form than SB 5.
Black Lion

Columbus, OH

#169 Apr 7, 2011
Be efficient please. Put the Kasich recall and SB5 on the same ballot in November so the silent majority can shove it down your tax and spend liberal throats like you shoved obamacare down ours.
Jim

Hilliard, OH

#170 Apr 7, 2011
Summer Kelley wrote:
<quoted text>
Kasich has nothing to do with legislative appointments. You should be more informed about how this state works before you go making comments like that.
Sure he don't...Just keep thinking that .
Sally

Mckinney, TX

#171 Apr 8, 2011
Isn't a little bit of honest dissent healthy? Keep the party in check? Someone who isn't swept away by party politics?
Apparently not.
Thanks for being intolerant republicans.
Just Sayin

Columbus, OH

#172 Apr 8, 2011
powell sinclair wrote:
Good.
There's the attitude. We can't have legislators thinking for themselves. Walk the party line or be gone!
political hater-hater

Westerville, OH

#173 Apr 8, 2011
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know that Uncle Ted removed him, but rather did the same thing that Obama is doing with Kadafy, asking him to leave. Marc Dann and his circus were going to bring accountability back to the office, remember...
And how'd that work out?
Tea Party Tim

Blacklick, OH

#174 Apr 8, 2011
The GOP has completed its first goal of getting political revenge on the unions, and now it's time to get political revenge on Republicans who had the audacity to deviate from the party line.
dee

Bellefontaine, OH

#175 Apr 8, 2011
Marsala Corvus wrote:
Please do not slander the memory of Adolph Hitler with the besmirching of his first name with "Pennsylvania" Kasucks!
Remember, the Gestapo will knock on your door if you do not put a stop to it now!
<quoted text>
well said.
DAK

Columbus, OH

#176 Apr 8, 2011
Tea Party Tim wrote:
The GOP has completed its first goal of getting political revenge on the unions, and now it's time to get political revenge on Republicans who had the audacity to deviate from the party line.
And after both of those are accomplished, it is on to any person who isn't as rabid as the ones doing the hunting. So in order to "prove" you are a true Republican, you have to be even farther to the right of those in power and so that pushes those in power even farther to the right. Welcome back to the 1930-1940's Germany. All we need now is groups of armed, uniformed men kicking in our doors and dragging us out of bed in the middle of the night because we dared to disagree.
mckeestown

Morristown, TN

#177 Apr 8, 2011
Allen wrote:
Got to love when the grammar police misspells teacher.
by design
mckeestown

Morristown, TN

#178 Apr 8, 2011
Black Lion wrote:
Be efficient please. Put the Kasich recall and SB5 on the same ballot in November so the silent majority can shove it down your tax and spend liberal throats like you shoved obamacare down ours.
But I beleive that I am a member of the silent majority and I don't agree with you.
mckeestown

Morristown, TN

#179 Apr 8, 2011
30 yr Cop wrote:
Tennessee, I agree with some of what you said. When I testified at the House Committee on this bill, I touched on the subject you brought up. We voters last election made a terrible decision, we swept out one party for another. Now the Republican Party has the bigger "pack of Hyenas" and are tearing up the smaller pack. I now believe, as a disalusioned ex-Republican, we need a 50/50 split in all forms of government, so they compromise and fix our State. You mentioned that those who had their toes stepped on, didn't offer solutions? So where you there at the hearing? I was - They didn't want to hear the solutions that were offered. A lot went on at the hearing that was absurd and pathetic....a six month rookie out of the academy could've run that sham better. If I ever come back to my party...it will be because of men like Sen's. Seitz and Jim Hughes. And you're also right...we will survive this, but Kasich has no backing by the majority of any public servants. He has failed us in Leadership 101, and he spits on the very people he needs to pull this State out of this mess. He/They have not made one effort to call upon any of my Union leaders for any concessions. Nor has he led by example except to show he gives his Dept. heads raises on day one! Has any of us ever been given a raise on day one? Have you? You earn the raise as you earn respect. Quit talking about Celeste, Gilligan, Taft or Strickland. Let's all agree to blame Bush and move on to solutions.
You worry about Tenn, we WILL take care of Ohio. The solution is coming in a different form than SB 5.
So we agree, one party is as bad as the other. How do you correct it?
DAK

Columbus, OH

#180 Apr 8, 2011
mckeestown wrote:
<quoted text>
So we agree, one party is as bad as the other. How do you correct it?
If I may offer my 2 cents worth...
We correct it be paying attention to what actually happens, not the political spin thrown out by talking heads on TV and radio that have a politican axe to grind. We do it by holding elected leaders accountable for what they DO as well as what they SAY. We do it by electing people that owe their allegiance to the voters other than a political party, some corporation or a political lobby. We do it be demanding honesty and integrity, compassion and empathy from those we choose to govern in our name. We do it by asking questions BEFORE the election and if an answer sounds vague or untrue, we keep asking the question until we get an honest answer. I am not opposed to "bad" news or hearing things that may be "bad" for me and mine, but I am oppsed to being lied to, misled, overwhelmed with "facts" that have no bearing on the issue at hand in an attempt to muddy the waters and get attention off the actual problems. We do it by looking at problems long-term rather than from one election cycle to the next.
Hoppy1234

Herndon, VA

#181 Apr 8, 2011
Black Lion wrote:
<quoted text>Reminds me of how democrats openly bribed senators with huge payoffs to get the votes for Obamacare passed. Reminds me of why I became a Republican.
Looks like Republicans doing the same thing here. Guess this is what is right for our government. If you don't like someone either buy him off or kick him out. That's great for good government. Remember, all parties change over time. Lincoln was a liberal in a liberal party and Douglas was a conservative in a conservative party. Go figure, it will all change again.
SB5 will be defeated

Hilliard, OH

#182 Apr 8, 2011
SB 5 Rocks wrote:
Imbecile, SB5 is the law now, it's not a bill.
IT IS THE LAW
<quoted text>
Not for long...once this piece of junk is overturned in the referendum. Make sure your vote is counted.
30 yr Cop

Columbus, OH

#183 Apr 8, 2011
mckeestown wrote:
<quoted text>
So we agree, one party is as bad as the other. How do you correct it?
I don't need any more Democrats or Republicans (Politicians) in my life. I need a Statesman or Stateswoman of either party that will step up and do the right thing at the right time...for the right reason. Irregardless of party affiliation. We obviously need to do a better job at vetting these Legislators, as has been mentioned. The Republican Senators and Representatives that voted against this bill, will surely feel the wrath of the almighty Kasich and his ilk. I may someday come back to the Republican Party.....because it was these Republicans that stood up....and ironically...they are the first causalties of this war. The first battles have been lost, as was Pearl Harbor and Wake Island. Remember history...
"They have awakened a sleeping Giant and filled it with a terrible resolve"

Join me tomorrow at the Statehouse, Broad and High....High Noon!
Tennessee Jerry

Fayetteville, TN

#184 Apr 8, 2011
30 yr Cop wrote:
Tennessee, I agree with some of what you said. When I testified at the House Committee on this bill, I touched on the subject you brought up. We voters last election made a terrible decision, we swept out one party for another. Now the Republican Party has the bigger "pack of Hyenas" and are tearing up the smaller pack. I now believe, as a disalusioned ex-Republican, we need a 50/50 split in all forms of government, so they compromise and fix our State. You mentioned that those who had their toes stepped on, didn't offer solutions? So where you there at the hearing? I was - They didn't want to hear the solutions that were offered. A lot went on at the hearing that was absurd and pathetic....a six month rookie out of the academy could've run that sham better. If I ever come back to my party...it will be because of men like Sen's. Seitz and Jim Hughes. And you're also right...we will survive this, but Kasich has no backing by the majority of any public servants. He has failed us in Leadership 101, and he spits on the very people he needs to pull this State out of this mess. He/They have not made one effort to call upon any of my Union leaders for any concessions. Nor has he led by example except to show he gives his Dept. heads raises on day one! Has any of us ever been given a raise on day one? Have you? You earn the raise as you earn respect. Quit talking about Celeste, Gilligan, Taft or Strickland. Let's all agree to blame Bush and move on to solutions.
You worry about Tenn, we WILL take care of Ohio. The solution is coming in a different form than SB 5.
And you think I give a rat's behind about Tn. I lived in Ohio all my working life and retired from Ohio Public employment after 30 years of service. I have many family members and friends in Ohio and as most, they are hurting from the economic conditions. After all those years, I had a career of Ohio politics and I will not just throw darts at Bush as though he was all the problem. We are focusing on Ohio problems and my point was that both parties have had a history in heavy handed policies. I suppose you would love to forget Celeste & Gulligan. Most who worked through those years would like to forget them as well.
As far as solutions, SB 5 may not be the solution but it's going to get a chance to make a difference. Whether the good outweighs the bad, history will tell. The union isn't the answer now anymore now than it was a solution when Celeste introduced it. You're not going to fix a thing, that's what Kasich was elected to do and he doesn't have to hold your hand a sing Kumbaya with you to do it. His BIO from his years in Washington show he may be the right man for the job, as unpopular as the solutions are.
Black Lion

Columbus, OH

#185 Apr 8, 2011
mckeestown wrote:
<quoted text>
But I beleive that I am a member of the silent majority and I don't agree with you.
That is ok. I respect your opinion. We only need half the silent majority to win.
doyle

Medina, OH

#186 Apr 8, 2011
Summer Kelley wrote:
<quoted text>
Kasich has nothing to do with legislative appointments. You should be more informed about how this state works before you go making comments like that.
are you really that clueless

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