UA and KSU students share loss of ram...

UA and KSU students share loss of rampage

There are 10 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Apr 18, 2007, titled UA and KSU students share loss of rampage. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

As details emerge of the deadly shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, there's a shared sense of loss among students at Kent State and the University of Akron.

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Bill

AOL

#1 Apr 18, 2007
This sort of thing scares the hell out of me. The long lapse of time in getting information out to the campus is unexcusable. A plan for all college campus' to warn their students immediately if this sort of thing happens needs to be adopted on a national basis. The campus cops should plus the local police, should have been driving around the campus announcing the problem over their police car PA system, NOT sending out emails to students.

Since: Mar 07

Tulsa, OK

#2 Apr 18, 2007
Bill wrote:
This sort of thing scares the hell out of me. The long lapse of time in getting information out to the campus is unexcusable. A plan for all college campus' to warn their students immediately if this sort of thing happens needs to be adopted on a national basis. The campus cops should plus the local police, should have been driving around the campus announcing the problem over their police car PA system, NOT sending out emails to students.
With 11,000 student and staff comin' into the campus, how did y'all propose that they warn them about a nut case that no-buddy knew about??
Get Real

United States

#3 Apr 18, 2007
Bill, what you said is absurd. When the police showed up after the first shooting, it looked like a cut and dry case of a domestic dispute gone bad. There was an argument and then shots fired. There was absolutely no reason to believe that the shooter would go elsewhere and shoot all of the others. You don't promote chaos and mass hysteria unless or until you have enough facts to justify it.
Speaker of Fact

Cleveland, OH

#4 Apr 18, 2007
Bill wrote:
This sort of thing scares the hell out of me. The long lapse of time in getting information out to the campus is unexcusable. A plan for all college campus' to warn their students immediately if this sort of thing happens needs to be adopted on a national basis. The campus cops should plus the local police, should have been driving around the campus announcing the problem over their police car PA system, NOT sending out emails to students.
Oh give me a break. It's easy for everyone to sit back and play quaterback on this, but a situation like this was unprecendented. There is no playbook or manual on this. The Police had bigger issues at hand than driving around. Especially since the freaking shooter was still out.

Anyone attempting to criticize the timeline or what they should have/didn't do should be ashamed of themselves. This is NOT the time for it. I am sure college campuses have plans on how to deal with emergencies, especially after Columbine.

NO PLACE has a solid plan on how to deal with a massacre on this level. NO ONE! It's impossible. And if they say they do, they'll full of it. All it takes is ONE LITTLE VARIABLE to throw that entire plan out the window.
Concerned Akronite

Akron, OH

#5 Apr 18, 2007
After speaking with friends that attend Virginia Tech, Bill, they would really like people to stop chastising their school. The police and school officials did what they could to protect their students. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge.
A Mom

Herndon, VA

#6 Apr 18, 2007
I am currently a student at the University of Akron and if the University attempted to warn its students to stay in via email I for one would not receive the message until late. The method of emailing students to stay in was the most ineffective way to communicate an emergency. Virginia Tech should have used the local television and radio stations to communicate the threat (when it was determined) to both the students AND the community. The emergency broadcasting sytem should have been used as well as university police going from building to building alerting the students and staff of the danger.
Big Difference

Akron, OH

#7 Apr 18, 2007
Get Real wrote:
Bill, what you said is absurd. When the police showed up after the first shooting, it looked like a cut and dry case of a domestic dispute gone bad. There was an argument and then shots fired. There was absolutely no reason to believe that the shooter would go elsewhere and shoot all of the others. You don't promote chaos and mass hysteria unless or until you have enough facts to justify it.
But, this domestic dispute happened on a college campus, not at a residential location. Considering the person was on the loose, I am also stymied at the lack of communication across campus. I'm not pointing blame, just stymied. In my opinion, after the incident, extra police forces should have been brought on campus to guard all buildings until more information was learned about the killer. And, information should have been communicated in muliple ways to students and staff of what happened so not as much to induce panic, but, to put people on guard (and let students or personnel coming to school decide whether or not to attend that day). Doing little or nothing during the 2 hour period resulted in many additional deaths -- that is a fact we know.
Matthew Finlay

United States

#8 Apr 18, 2007
My God be with all affected by this.
we all have rights

Pasadena, MD

#9 Apr 18, 2007
"Doing little or nothing during the 2 hour period resulted in many additional deaths -- that is a fact we know."

No -- what we 'know' is that police made a logical assumption as to the situation and took immediate action -- which is why they stopped a 'person of interest'[the boyfriend of the initial girl killed] and were questioning him when the follow-up shootings occurred.

Other actions may have lead to more or less fatalities -- we don't and won't ever know.
Big Difference

United States

#10 Apr 18, 2007
we all have rights wrote:
"Doing little or nothing during the 2 hour period resulted in many additional deaths -- that is a fact we know."
No -- what we 'know' is that police made a logical assumption as to the situation and took immediate action -- which is why they stopped a 'person of interest'[the boyfriend of the initial girl killed] and were questioning him when the follow-up shootings occurred.
Other actions may have lead to more or less fatalities -- we don't and won't ever know.
Logical assumption? I would hardly call that logical in the context of a major University. Please don't ever go into the security business.

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