Fatal crash probe goes on

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The Pennsylvania State Police accident reconstruction report on the April 13 accident on Grant Drive that killed one Hanover teen and seriously injured three of her friends is expected to be completed next month, according to a public information officer.
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Jan 31, 2011
 
I just don't understand, we (or at least we do) raise our kids to wear their seat belts, I'm pretty sure they enforce it when you are learning to drive, so why don't people where them? it is the law, and there is a reason for them, I just don't get it.

My next comment has nothing to do with this article, but just want to make parents aware, when you know your child is driving, to school, home, to work, to a friends, YOU know the time frame that this drive is taking place, check your cell phone activity on line to make sure there was no texting during this time frame. If anyone watched Extreme Makeover Home Edition last night, you saw the parents of a teen who died while texting and driving, they now have an organization which travels to schools to spread the word.
http://www.rememberalexbrownfoundation.org/
No family should have to go through this, it is completely avoidable. Remember parents, I don't know how old anyone is here, but back in the day we did not have cell phones, we lived without them then, and teens today can live without them now. If you know your teen is texting while driving, either tun off the phone, or take the keys away, don't put everyone else on the road in danger.
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My heart still goes out to the parents who lost this child...no matter the cause, accident or preventable. As was stated earlier, no parent should ever have to go through such an horrendous ordeal.

If anything does come out of it and the young person driving should receive any fine/etc, the only thing I can hope is that it will help to serve as a life lesson to other teens who are driving around in cars. Remember, teens, you are truly not immortal!!!

God bless you all!
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Do you really think Erica would want her freind held accountable,, After all they were just a couple of girls having some fun,, Accidents do happen,,and seat belts are'nt always the answer,in some cases seat belts are a hazard. Taking this long to reconstruct this accident is another bunch of crap, How would you like to be living with not only the accident on your concience,, but the thought of possible involuntary manslaughter charge! It is a terrible thing,, I feel sorry for everyone it affected.
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Thank you, Evening Sun, for the update.
I pray for peace for all family members.
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Do you really think Erica would want her freind held accountable,, After all they were just a couple of girls having some fun,, Accidents do happen,,and seat belts are'nt always the answer,in some cases seat belts are a hazard. Taking this long to reconstruct this accident is another bunch of crap, How would you like to be living with not only the accident on your concience,, but the thought of possible involuntary manslaughter charge! It is a terrible thing,, I feel sorry for everyone it affected.
I feel terrible also, but I dón't think any of us would know what Erica would want. At this point it should be whatever Erica's family wants. Not to mention there were others who were severely injured in that crash.
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Just one more reason to cease and desist the use of vehicles by students to travel to and from school. I'm sure there is more to this story then posted in the media. WHY are the School Officials not being investigated ? In my day, the only students that were permitted to drive a car to school had to show a need. Like a "job" which showed support of the family structure. As of now, this tragic story is just another case of kids racing about in a car--"having fun" .
DID the Police check their cellphones to see if they might have erased all calling history too ? I bet not. The charge-homicide by vehicle is most appropriate. An example must be made. I've had my fill of scraping up people from roadways.
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The loss of life can never be replaced and that family is hurting. She was a bright young lady with a full future ahead of her only to have life be taken away from a young friend, who was wreckless, careless and did not use the right judgement when operating that SUV. All the girls could have been killed, they each suffered some serious injuries and their families had to endure great expense.

This driver killed a passenger and as bad as it sounds, needs to be held accountable for the death and injuries to all. I hope the DA seeks the toughest penalty possible.

I am anxious to see the tox report on this driver.
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It is not a matter of what Erica would want. It is whether a law was broken or not. If a law is found to have been broken, the offender needs to suffer the consequences of the action. We cannot let feelings and emotions cloud this line or justice would rarely be served.

That being said, I do feel for all involved including the girl who was driving. She made a dumb mistake which teenagers often do and unfortunately there were terrible consequences. One can only hope that these girls and others learned their lesson and will come out as better people on the other side because of it.
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Wreckless in Hanover wrote:
The loss of life can never be replaced and that family is hurting. She was a bright young lady with a full future ahead of her only to have life be taken away from a young friend, who was wreckless, careless and did not use the right judgement when operating that SUV. All the girls could have been killed, they each suffered some serious injuries and their families had to endure great expense.
This driver killed a passenger and as bad as it sounds, needs to be held accountable for the death and injuries to all. I hope the DA seeks the toughest penalty possible.
I am anxious to see the tox report on this driver.
Just check her facebook.
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Just check her facebook.
Doesn't look like she learned any lessons.
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Just check her facebook.
So, I did check out her FB, definetely did not learn anything, or she has complete amnesia!
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Searched for her facebook and cant find it. What did you use to find it? I'm very interested in seeing how she is completely incoherent to the situation.

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A tragedy all the way around, I have not seen any of these girls FB, not being "friended" by them, but I have family that has and are friends and I have heard about what seems to be a lack of remorse from the driver.

I hope and suspect that it is just a facade and her immature way to handle what must be a very devastating thing to have caused the death of a friend even inadvertently.

It was a group of teenagers, doing what silly, immature teenagers do, she is not the first and she will not be the last.

As far as punishment goes, if they find she was at fault because she was texting/drinking/using, speeding or whatever, then I hope the appropriate punishment is levied against her.

I am so sorry for Erica's family, my thoughts and prayers are with you.

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Who's facebook did you check? Jaska does not have a Facebook account.
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Are you guys serious?????? read the paper..it was an "ACCIDENT." NONE of them were wearing seat belts. So, how can you just point the driver out in this? an who are you to say she hasn't learned her lesson? i doubt anyone on this page has taken the time to talk to her so you wouldn't know.
They were all friends, driving around having fun. unfortunately, it didn't end that way. but why are we just pointing the blame out on one person? an by everyone on here sayin she hasn't learned her lesson an that her facebook proves it? its a SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE! Facebook has Absolutely nothing to do with the accident.
this is a 17 year old girl were talkin about seekin the highest level of punishment for??? but they wanna keep DUIs as Misdemeanors when that shows so much higher level risk of a "Fatal Crash." why is everyone creeping on her facebook anyways? is this just a way for all the brown nosers to dig up trash? if so then you'd notice right on her FB page says "RIP Erica, I love you an i'm sorry." now just because she dosent post something every hour about the accident means she hasn't learned her lesson??
Fact is, This girl has been through more in the past 9 months than most of us have our entire lives. No one hear can say she hasn't learned her lesson when you all probably wouldn't even know her whole name if it wasn't printed out in the paper right in front of your eyes.
Grow up.
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Searched for her facebook and cant find it. What did you use to find it? I'm very interested in seeing how she is completely incoherent to the situation.
If you find one of the other girls in the crash, on facebook, go thru her friends and you will find Jaska.

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Some of what you are saying is true, but when you get behind the wheel, when you take on the responsibility of driving then you are RESPONSIBLE.

I feel for Jaska, I do...I cannot imagine what she must have gone through, but unfortunately she was the one driving and that means that knowingly or not she took the lives of her friends into her hands, now the only question remaining is was she taking that responsibility seriously enough?

Regardless of how we may feel about it, if she was doing something she shouldn't have and caused the accident, she should be held accountable.
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Are you guys serious?????? read the paper..it was an "ACCIDENT." NONE of them were wearing seat belts. So, how can you just point the driver out in this? an who are you to say she hasn't learned her lesson? i doubt anyone on this page has taken the time to talk to her so you wouldn't know.
They were all friends, driving around having fun. unfortunately, it didn't end that way. but why are we just pointing the blame out on one person? an by everyone on here sayin she hasn't learned her lesson an that her facebook proves it? its a SOCIAL NETWORKING SITE! Facebook has Absolutely nothing to do with the accident.
this is a 17 year old girl were talkin about seekin the highest level of punishment for??? but they wanna keep DUIs as Misdemeanors when that shows so much higher level risk of a "Fatal Crash." why is everyone creeping on her facebook anyways? is this just a way for all the brown nosers to dig up trash? if so then you'd notice right on her FB page says "RIP Erica, I love you an i'm sorry." now just because she dosent post something every hour about the accident means she hasn't learned her lesson??
Fact is, This girl has been through more in the past 9 months than most of us have our entire lives. No one hear can say she hasn't learned her lesson when you all probably wouldn't even know her whole name if it wasn't printed out in the paper right in front of your eyes.
Grow up.
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Sherri Martin wrote:
Some of what you are saying is true, but when you get behind the wheel, when you take on the responsibility of driving then you are RESPONSIBLE.
I feel for Jaska, I do...I cannot imagine what she must have gone through, but unfortunately she was the one driving and that means that knowingly or not she took the lives of her friends into her hands, now the only question remaining is was she taking that responsibility seriously enough?
Regardless of how we may feel about it, if she was doing something she shouldn't have and caused the accident, she should be held accountable.
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Sherri Martin wrote:
Some of what you are saying is true, but when you get behind the wheel, when you take on the responsibility of driving then you are RESPONSIBLE.
I feel for Jaska, I do...I cannot imagine what she must have gone through, but unfortunately she was the one driving and that means that knowingly or not she took the lives of her friends into her hands, now the only question remaining is was she taking that responsibility seriously enough?
Regardless of how we may feel about it, if she was doing something she shouldn't have and caused the accident, she should be held accountable.
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so you are saying that when you play free taxi and the other people in the car are partying and having a good time the driver should be punished just because they were driving. a friend of mine was taking her friend home, ya know being one of those friends that dont let their friends drive drunk and the girl puked all over her and inside the car and it made her run off the road. so i guess its still the drivers fault

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When you get behind the wheel and you have people in the car then yes you take responsibility for those lives.

If someone ELSE in the car caused the accident, then THEY should be held accountable.

As any parent will tell you, children are the biggest distraction there is....it doesn't relieve me of my responsibility.

I stated earlier that IF Jaska was doing something she shouldn't have AND she caused the accident then she should be held accountable.
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<quoted text>so you are saying that when you play free taxi and the other people in the car are partying and having a good time the driver should be punished just because they were driving. a friend of mine was taking her friend home, ya know being one of those friends that dont let their friends drive drunk and the girl puked all over her and inside the car and it made her run off the road. so i guess its still the drivers fault

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