EARP to assist other departments

EARP to assist other departments

There are 47 comments on the Evening Sun story from Jun 12, 2011, titled EARP to assist other departments. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

For the past several years Eastern Adams Regional Police officers working on duty alone knew not to expect backup from other local police agencies.

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Duh

Wrightsville, PA

#1 Jun 13, 2011
What a joke. EARPD has individually superior officers but the regional politics makes it a farce and the laughing stock of the county.

Maybe the commission should adopt a policy that doesn't permit criminals to leave the regional area too...I wonder if that would work?

Kick the hillbillies out of office and let the police department function without interference from uneducated local politicians.
Dumb thinking

Harrisburg, PA

#2 Jun 13, 2011
Now I am liable for one of my whackers going to another township. Great. Sirens and red lights will be headed to all parts but where they are not supposed to be. Why don't we just allow the other whackers to come into Berwick twp.

EARP officers are just dumb - man up and quit crying. I am sure the state cops work alone all the time.
Interesting

Houston, TX

#3 Jun 13, 2011
So Duh.....how many meetings have you attended to make such an educated statement? EARP officers superior???? Well like all forces they have their exceptions to that statement. I assume by superior you are not referring to the officer that I witnessed sit in his car to scold someone instead of getting out of it because it was too hot???
Justice

York, PA

#4 Jun 13, 2011
When I read this I thought I was reading a 30 year old newspaper article. Was the chief born with a pair? If so, show the local politicans that YOU are the chief. They need to stop trying to micromanage the police department. They have no supervisory knowledge and no police training. Stay out of police business!
Also, a text message on your phone when a car is out of the area? GET A LIFE!
Think

Hanover, PA

#5 Jun 13, 2011
Well Duh..another unthought out statement by you.Should we allow them to patrol anywhere in the State. The cost is on the shoulders of the EARP members.Funny how New Oxford as no issue with policy change but is unwilling to accept full liability issues for change.As a resident of Berwick I do not want the addition risk . I do not what my Supervisors gambling on nothing going wrong and ending up on the wrong side of a large civil settlement.
Justice

York, PA

#6 Jun 13, 2011
Think wrote:
Well Duh..another unthought out statement by you.Should we allow them to patrol anywhere in the State. The cost is on the shoulders of the EARP members.Funny how New Oxford as no issue with policy change but is unwilling to accept full liability issues for change.As a resident of Berwick I do not want the addition risk . I do not what my Supervisors gambling on nothing going wrong and ending up on the wrong side of a large civil settlement.
Well then why don't YOU put on a uniform and answer calls by yourself for bar fights, domestics with weapons, crimes in progress. You would be yelling for your mommy. Step up or shut up little boy!
Get real

United States

#7 Jun 13, 2011
Just this past Saturday night I was listening to the scanner and heard dispatch say EARP was requesting assistance. There was police coming from as far away as Biglerville and Gettysburg. If I understand this correctly EARP can't go help them if needed. This sounds one way to me.
Interesting

Houston, TX

#8 Jun 13, 2011
So Justice....I take it by your posts you are an EARP officer? Probably one of the two that brought the Teamsters in and cost the taxpayers even more money. Probably one of the two constantly whining and filing grievances which again.....costs tax payers money. I think your main problem is the Commissions authority. Kindly explain to me where you can get a job where you have total free rein on what you can do?
Justice

York, PA

#9 Jun 13, 2011
Interesting wrote:
So Justice....I take it by your posts you are an EARP officer? Probably one of the two that brought the Teamsters in and cost the taxpayers even more money. Probably one of the two constantly whining and filing grievances which again.....costs tax payers money. I think your main problem is the Commissions authority. Kindly explain to me where you can get a job where you have total free rein on what you can do?
The last time I checked, police officers are included in labor groups that are allowed to form unions, and negotiate for a fair contract, including benefits and job safety. Would you prefer to attend ANOTHER officer's funeral because we are playing games with back-up? Please tell me you are not that uncaring.
Bryan J Felix

Biglerville, PA

#10 Jun 13, 2011
Actually, by law, any group of employees is allowed to form a union.

Mr. Nugent. Your questions may not have been answered, but think back to when you made the decision to remove Chief Dougherty from the EARP. No questions were even asked, and our area lost a great police Chief, which Gettysburg has since capitalized on. No offense to Chief Then in this remark. But when the decision doesnt go your way, its not ok, but it is when it does go your way. The three member commission is a democracy, and it looks as if the members on the commission are not just going to with what you say, as seems to have been the case in the past.
Interesting

Houston, TX

#11 Jun 13, 2011
Yes Bryan you are correct about unions. Pretty strong statement you made about Mr. Nugent. Considering he was a strong supporter of implementing United Hook and Ladders requested fire tax. Maybe he should have been ignored then as well.
judy

Salisbury, MD

#12 Jun 13, 2011
Although pa state police only have 2 or 3 troopers working in the county at one time they have immediate backup wherever they are because they are always near a local jurisdiction which has a local officer on duty to respond to back them up, where as it is the opposite for local police because troopers are keep busy from call to call with there short staff and hardly ever close by or around. I thought pa officers were covered under state law when they have to respond to other jurisdictions. Local council members should support there police in emergency situations and allow other officers to respond in and out of there areas for officer safety.
bob

York, PA

#13 Jun 13, 2011
why do you have to bring fire company in this. bryan said this as a resident of one of the area they cover . I do not live in the area any more but I agree with bryan . the area did loose a chief that was vocal about commish . ponders the thougt , the commish didn't like that so they got him out. they now have a puppet in as chief that does not have a back bone. I hope none of the officers get hurt or get killed due to this policy. pray to god NOONE GETS KILLED OR PERMANENT HURT.IT COST THE TAX PAYERS MORE MONEY IN THE END.
Just me

Huntingdon Valley, PA

#14 Jun 13, 2011
We should consider safety for anyone ( expectally the ones that protect us!) stop crying and trying to control everything union no union who cares treat them fair and there wouldn't be a union safety is where it's at stop worrying exactly where they are I'm sure he gets a text when they go take a $hit come on give these guys a little respect and yes I got a ticket from them but I don't hate and bash them for doing there job . I think cheif has a little to much control and time to worry exactly where they are give them room and let them do there job it sounds like they go to work to be at the sitters not work!!!
Pete

Hanover, PA

#15 Jun 13, 2011
There are a few facts that need to be known.

Fact #1 - There are many case examples in the state of PA dealing with the liability issues Berwick is concerned about. These involve large sums of settlement money and include situations on both sides of the fence. Examples include officers from other jurisdictions entering the township as well as the townships officers leaving their jurisdiction to assist. A simple Google search will yield all the examples you want.

Fact #2 - Oxford Twp and New Oxford representatives were told of the liability issues that they were going to be opening themselves up to by the EARP solicitor prior to the vote. A wise decision would have been to table the motion and return to the boards of their municipalities to discuss.

Fact #3 - Chief Then has changed his reasoning in recent weeks. A look at the recently approved EARP meeting minutes from the May meeting shows when Chief Then presented the idea it was to "improve officer morale". This is a weak reasoning for placing tax payer monies in potential jeopardy.

Fact #4- There are more creative ways to limit the one officer on duty exposure. What Chief Then failed to mention was the officer’s schedule which he recently changed. The reason officers are on duty by themselves 34% of the time was because of a work schedule that gave them 6 consecutive days off. A new schedule goes into effect July 1 giving them a max of 2 consecutive days off. This schedule change alone drops the one officer on duty percent to 17%.
Ramoan Rodman

Hanover, PA

#16 Jun 13, 2011
You should respect and look up to these officers like they are our role models, just like we respect and look up to our President Obama.
Smith and Jones

Gettysburg, PA

#17 Jun 13, 2011
We need more police, well-educated, well-paid, respectful, with high morals and morale, who should never have to be at a scene of potential trouble alone.
Interesting

Houston, TX

#18 Jun 13, 2011
Sure I respect the uniform. I do not respect individuals who consume $240,000 of a budget and perform as follows.

Drive past cars parked along Rte. 194 in front of No parking signs.

Fail to ticket attendees of Lincoln Speedway when they are parked on the road.

Fail to ticket people when they are parking in front of No Parking this side of road at Summit Court.

Fail to followup with citizen complaints of cars doing donuts in the Lincoln Speedway parking lot. This after they were given plate number and vehicle I'd.

Arrogant individuals that head into contract arbitration with the feeling that everything they want can be given to them...the municipalities can simply raise the taxes.

Need I go on????
Deb

Hanover, PA

#19 Jun 13, 2011
Interesting wrote:
Sure I respect the uniform. I do not respect individuals who consume $240,000 of a budget and perform as follows.
Drive past cars parked along Rte. 194 in front of No parking signs.
Fail to ticket attendees of Lincoln Speedway when they are parked on the road.
Fail to ticket people when they are parking in front of No Parking this side of road at Summit Court.
Fail to followup with citizen complaints of cars doing donuts in the Lincoln Speedway parking lot. This after they were given plate number and vehicle I'd.
Arrogant individuals that head into contract arbitration with the feeling that everything they want can be given to them...the municipalities can simply raise the taxes.
Need I go on????
Do you complain about the noise when Lincoln runs late because of a rain delay?
Interesting

Houston, TX

#20 Jun 13, 2011
Deb wrote:
<quoted text>Do you complain about the noise when Lincoln runs late because of a rain delay?
Should I and if you have what response did you get?

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