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Appalled

Joliet, IL

#1 Sep 24, 2012
Neighbor

Wheaton, IL

#2 Sep 24, 2012
I agree.

And....
If you can legally vote, I want you to vote!!!! If you have a hard time proving you are legal, I am sorry for you, but ask you to do the work to prove you are legal. ID's are free, people have had a year to get one, you are responsible for yourself, and your own vote.
Jack

San Francisco, CA

#3 Sep 24, 2012
Suppress all the votes you want. It's shameful and anti-American, but in this election, it still won't matter.
Retards

United States

#4 Sep 24, 2012
No illegals should be entitled to anything from this country until they make the commitment to become a legal citizen of the United States.
Jack

San Francisco, CA

#5 Sep 24, 2012
Where is this voting fraud epidemic? What evidence is there that dead people and illegals are voting in droves?

The truth is, there is no fraudulent voting issue in this country. Everybody knows that the GOP is desperate and tactfully making it difficult to vote in this country. The less people voting, the better it is for the GOP.

Again, in this election, it doesn't matter. Romney doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning, but I can't think of anything that threatens our free democratic society than this despicable act. This is a new low for the GOP.
Neighbor

Wheaton, IL

#6 Sep 24, 2012
Jack, I got the exact words from you that another Liberal used on me. After I sent him a dozen references to those found guilty of voter fraud, he changed the subject.

Voter fraud comes in many flavors too Jack. ACORN people went inside elderly retirement homes, and gathered absentee votes for their candidates, one place Felons were voting, look at the history in Chicago elections too.

You can ignore the facts, but you can't change them Jack.
Jack

Chicago, IL

#7 Sep 24, 2012
Yes, voter fraud exists, but research shows that it happens most with absentee ballets, and even then it's at .001%.

We all know what this is, and I find it despicable.
all talk all the time

Glendale Heights, IL

#8 Sep 24, 2012
Appalled wrote:
Have you done anything about those illegals yet? You are as bad as Neighbor posting on here but doing nothing. Talk, talk, talk...
Neighbor

Wheaton, IL

#9 Sep 24, 2012
DesPlaines... You come to a neighnorhood blog to discuss, and you accuse others (with no evidence) of not taking action? You're kind'a silly
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#10 Sep 24, 2012
Jack wrote:
Suppress all the votes you want. It's shameful and anti-American, but in this election, it still won't matter.
This is not suppression of votes. It is suppression of illegal activity. If there is no illegal activity as you state, then what are you so afraid of?
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#11 Sep 24, 2012
Jack wrote:
Yes, voter fraud exists, but research shows that it happens most with absentee ballets, and even then it's at .001%.
We all know what this is, and I find it despicable.
What is so despicable about making sure that fraud does not occur? Are you in favor of illegal activity as long as it benefits your cause? I find that despicable.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#12 Sep 24, 2012
all talk all the time wrote:
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Have you done anything about those illegals yet? You are as bad as Neighbor posting on here but doing nothing. Talk, talk, talk...
Your assessment of me is way off base. My discussion of my views on illegal immigration on Topix is only one area where I promote my postion. I feel it is important to make people aware and I use Topix as a tool.

I research the illegal immigration positions of candidates to decide who to vote for. I have sent checks to and voted for politicians that I feel will make some kind of move, any kind of move, in the area of enforcement. I included Arizona in my last two vacations in support of their postion when others were boycotting and I let Jan Brewer know I was coming and why. I put my money where my mouth is.

I make sure that all workers I hire are documented as well as those I hire for an organization that I volunteer for. I was very vocal at the school I work for when the registration policy did not include proof of legal citizenship. I was told the policy comes from higher up. So I went higher up who told me that the policy comes from higher up, who told me that the policy comes from higher up. Are you getting the picture?

Short of getting a job with ICE and standing at the border and checking ID's myself, I am not sure what else I can do other than continue to spread the word.

I do not think though that I qualify as someone who just talks, talks, talks and you certainly don't qualify as someone who knows me.
Neighbor

Wheaton, IL

#13 Sep 25, 2012
You go girl!
My man mitt

Springfield, NJ

#14 Sep 25, 2012
Jack wrote:
Where is this voting fraud epidemic? What evidence is there that dead people and illegals are voting in droves?
The truth is, there is no fraudulent voting issue in this country. Everybody knows that the GOP is desperate and tactfully making it difficult to vote in this country. The less people voting, the better it is for the GOP.
Again, in this election, it doesn't matter. Romney doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning, but I can't think of anything that threatens our free democratic society than this despicable act. This is a new low for the GOP.
I can think of something that threatens our free democratic society. It's when we create a voting base that is dependent on our government for all of there needs. We then elect politicians that run the country into the ground as they attempt to provide and pay for all these things. Then the government realizes they can't do it all so they hunt down people with any wealth left and they take it, so that they can redistribute it to all of the government dependents. Eventually there will be no money left and the government will own and provide everything for everyone. Sound good? It's called communism, all courtesy of Barack Obama.
For Appalled

Wheaton, IL

#15 Sep 27, 2012
Not me

Mokena, IL

#16 Sep 27, 2012
Jack wrote:
Suppress all the votes you want. It's shameful and anti-American, but in this election, it still won't matter.
You are too funny! What are YOU afraid of? Some form of ID with proof of residency is needed to register in the first place, isn't it?

Roll this recent "suppressing the vote" unfounded cry with the fabricated "war on women," and you have a very nervous Democrat machine.
My Man Mitt

Merrillville, IN

#17 Sep 27, 2012
Jack wrote:
Where is this voting fraud epidemic? What evidence is there that dead people and illegals are voting in droves?
The truth is, there is no fraudulent voting issue in this country. Everybody knows that the GOP is desperate and tactfully making it difficult to vote in this country. The less people voting, the better it is for the GOP.
Again, in this election, it doesn't matter. Romney doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning, but I can't think of anything that threatens our free democratic society than this despicable act. This is a new low for the GOP.
This is the most ridiculous argument I've heard. Why do we keep hearing about this at all? Because libs don't want to talk about the economy.

Why is it so hard to obtain an i.d.? It's not hard for legal citizens. You need to possess an I.D. for virtually everything you do. Go to the bank to get money out, need an I.D. Drive a car, you are required by law to have your license in your possession. My kids have to wear i.d.'s at school.

Why in the hell would we not require an I.D. to do something as important as voting? We need to verify who you are in order to keep the integrity of the election because not everyone in this country is entitled to vote and everyone is only entitled to one vote. This is common sense but dems make this out to be some sort of ridiculously unreasonable requirement to vote. Most things you do in this country that are important, require an i.d. to do them.

And if you don't think voter fraud is a problem in this country and you live near Chicago, you are a fool. Do you remember how close the 2004 race was? Wasn't it decided by a couple hundred votes in Florida? Do you honestly believe that voter fraud can't change the outcome of an election? You know it can. You don't care though because that is exactly what you are trying to do.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#18 Sep 27, 2012
For Appalled wrote:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/09 /26/republicans-dhs-attempting -to-conceal-information-from-t he-american-people-about-immig rant-welfare-policies/
Interesting. Every single taxpayer should be outraged that rules are being ignored that result in more and more immigrants being supported by our dollars. IT HAS TO STOP!

And if you combine the Department of Homeland Security's attempt to lighten immigration restrictions with their attempt to deny Florida and all other states access to vital federal database information that will help identify illegal voters( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/us/politics... ) you get a pretty clear picture of an effort to protect an illegal voting base.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#19 Sep 27, 2012
My Man Mitt wrote:
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This is the most ridiculous argument I've heard. Why do we keep hearing about this at all? Because libs don't want to talk about the economy.
Why is it so hard to obtain an i.d.? It's not hard for legal citizens. You need to possess an I.D. for virtually everything you do. Go to the bank to get money out, need an I.D. Drive a car, you are required by law to have your license in your possession. My kids have to wear i.d.'s at school.
Why in the hell would we not require an I.D. to do something as important as voting? We need to verify who you are in order to keep the integrity of the election because not everyone in this country is entitled to vote and everyone is only entitled to one vote. This is common sense but dems make this out to be some sort of ridiculously unreasonable requirement to vote. Most things you do in this country that are important, require an i.d. to do them.
And if you don't think voter fraud is a problem in this country and you live near Chicago, you are a fool. Do you remember how close the 2004 race was? Wasn't it decided by a couple hundred votes in Florida? Do you honestly believe that voter fraud can't change the outcome of an election? You know it can. You don't care though because that is exactly what you are trying to do.
Well said. I just do not understand how anyone can even come up with an intelligent argument in support of fraud.
Shades

Beecher, IL

#20 Sep 29, 2012
The number of legitimate citizens who should would be otherwise entitled to vote, but denied for lack of ID, far exceeds the number of fraudulent voters. The Pennsylvania law would stop around 6% of CITIZENS from voting because they have no ID, many of hem being the very elderly. The State of Pennsylvania admitted in court it does not know of a single case of voter fraud. Laws like this are unpatriotic and UnAmerican by any measure. In the handful of states where in person voter fraud has been identified, it's around .001%. So you think we should deny 6% of our population the right to vote- some of those people being elderly vets who fought in WWII- to stop fraud that is .001%?

Many think the ID requirement is reasonable because most of us have one. But some elderly voters do not. Moreover, there is a signature requirement, and if the signatures don't match than the vote can be challenged. And let's be intellectually honest here, it's not really being done to stop fraud, it's being done to win elections. I think it's disgusting and anyone who supports it should go live in a place akin to nazi Germany. I don't care who you vote for, but VOTE.

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