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Fatal Shooting Outside Empire State Building

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Retards

United States

#1 Aug 24, 2012
Bloomberg and the rest of the gun gabbers might want to start by disarming Americas police departments after todays shooting in New York. Several innocent people were gunned down by police officers apprehending a suspect. The police should be issued battons to apprehend criminals like they do in England so tragedies like this don't occur anymore!
Retards

United States

#2 Aug 25, 2012
Bloomberg claimed the shooting in New York was not terrorist attack, but a disgruntled worker. When I was using the subway system yesterday in New York, there was a large military presence at Penn and Grand Central stations with fully automatic AR-15's walking around. Obviously for a show of force, but I don't understand for what???
Bloomberg

United States

#3 Aug 25, 2012
were not going to get killed .........if a few innocent get killed to protect and save our lives..... oh well...
Neighbor

Reddick, IL

#4 Aug 25, 2012
On WLS, it stated the goof shot & killed 1 man, then the police chased this guy fireing 16 bullets at him, hitting him 8 times, and the other 8 bullets hit civilians. It was the police that accidentially shot some 7 people.

Anybody else here this story?
Neighbor

Reddick, IL

#6 Aug 25, 2012
Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#7 Aug 25, 2012
Me too. What a joke.

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Retards

United States

#8 Aug 25, 2012
Neighbor wrote:
On WLS, it stated the goof shot & killed 1 man, then the police chased this guy fireing 16 bullets at him, hitting him 8 times, and the other 8 bullets hit civilians. It was the police that accidentially shot some 7 people.
Anybody else here this story?
You are correct. I'm in new york visiting my sister. the cops shot many civilians. Bloomberg was all over the news yesterday defending the cops. He claims he saw the video from the empire state building cameras and the cops lives were in jeopardy. From a man running away from them who never fired one time at the cops. I believe the final number was 10 civilians shot. Bloomberg stressed they all will survive.
Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#9 Aug 25, 2012
Bloomberg is a shitstain on the world. His gun laws sure worked out well for everyone in this case! NOT! All I want is a chance to defend myself. Level the playing field with the whackjobs like Politico.
Gunny

United States

#10 Aug 27, 2012
Unincorporated wrote:
Bloomberg is a shitstain on the world. His gun laws sure worked out well for everyone in this case! NOT! All I want is a chance to defend myself. Level the playing field with the whackjobs like Politico.
Yeah, it would have turned out much better if a bunch of poorly trained civilians pulled out their concealed weapons and started shooting at anyone holding a gun on a busy NY street. This happened outside, in broad daylight, with trained law enforcement officers. Yet many still think it would have been a good idea for armed civilians to pull their weapons and start shooting in a dark, crowded theater in Colorado.
Neighbor

Streator, IL

#11 Aug 27, 2012
Gunny? It's like this... If you're the Bad Guy and you see a person with a gun on their hip, is it more or less likely you will attack them? If you're in a concealed cary state, and you see a person you want to rob, are you going to assume they are unarmed or hessitate? If you are in a City like Chicago with some 1,000 anti-gun laws, and you see a person you want to rob, it's pretty safe that you can assume they are defenseless. Also Gunny, with over 1,000 Chicago anti-gun laws in place, tell us how many bad guys shot someone over the weekend. Was it 17? 18?

Gunny, your don't hunt.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#12 Aug 27, 2012
Neighbor wrote:
Gunny? It's like this... If you're the Bad Guy and you see a person with a gun on their hip, is it more or less likely you will attack them? If you're in a concealed cary state, and you see a person you want to rob, are you going to assume they are unarmed or hessitate? If you are in a City like Chicago with some 1,000 anti-gun laws, and you see a person you want to rob, it's pretty safe that you can assume they are defenseless. Also Gunny, with over 1,000 Chicago anti-gun laws in place, tell us how many bad guys shot someone over the weekend. Was it 17? 18?
Gunny, your don't hunt.
None of your examples pertain to Gunny's point. While concealed carry will very likely deter crime in many ways, it would be less than fair if you did not recognize that it has the potential of making some situations worse.
Neighbor

Streator, IL

#13 Aug 27, 2012
Give me an example where your point occurred please. IMO, that very point has been used over & over & over, with no evidence to support it. It "might" happen; it "could" happen; has the "potential" to happen. No disrespect, but have you ever read a story where Gunny's point actually took place, caused a problem? I have never read about such a case, but that's me.

My counter view certainly was based upon my opinion. However, the facts speak for themselves in Chicago's gun laws results.

Why is it Rahm has body guards that carry guns, and I cannot defend myself, or my family, or "you" with my concealed gun?

IMO it is far more likely you would be greatful I stepped up to protect/save you, than your happiness that Rahm passed yet another gun law. I could be wrong?
Retards

United States

#14 Aug 27, 2012
I question if these officers were trained. I was in New York last week. The shooter was EIGHT FEET from the cops. The two officers discharged SIXTEEN ROUNDS from only right feet away. Hitting the shooter SEVEN times, killing him. SHOOTING NINE other innocent citizens in the process. One has to question the training these officers had and/or their decision. Thank god the innocent weren't killed. I think BATTONS ARE BETTER SUITED FOR THE POLICE VS GUNS. SCHUMER HAD NO COMMENT ON GUN CONTROL IN THE AFTERMATH OF THIS TRAGEDY????
Retards

United States

#15 Aug 27, 2012
Appalled wrote:
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None of your examples pertain to Gunny's point. While concealed carry will very likely deter crime in many ways, it would be less than fair if you did not recognize that it has the potential of making some situations worse.
maybe if the victim of the shooter was allowed to carry, the shooter might of never attempted this, the victim might have been able to defend himself and still been alive today, other other nearby concerned conceal carry civilians, might have been able to stop the incident like the two men who witnessed the shooting? It just might have been a good ending as well????? I bet if you could ask the dead victim and his family if they wish law makers would have allowed him to carry to defend himself they would say YES????
Retards

United States

#16 Aug 27, 2012
Bottom Line............no innocent law abiding citizen should ever be disallowed to defend themselves against violent physical attack like just happened on the streets of New York City.
columbo

United States

#17 Aug 27, 2012
Retards wrote:
I question if these officers were trained. I was in New York last week. The shooter was EIGHT FEET from the cops. The two officers discharged SIXTEEN ROUNDS from only right feet away. Hitting the shooter SEVEN times, killing him. SHOOTING NINE other innocent citizens in the process. One has to question the training these officers had and/or their decision. Thank god the innocent weren't killed. I think BATTONS ARE BETTER SUITED FOR THE POLICE VS GUNS. SCHUMER HAD NO COMMENT ON GUN CONTROL IN THE AFTERMATH OF THIS
TRAGEDY????
sounds like something gang bangers would do. not the police.
Neighbor

Streator, IL

#18 Aug 27, 2012
Yup!
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#19 Aug 27, 2012
Neighbor wrote:
Give me an example where your point occurred please. IMO, that very point has been used over & over & over, with no evidence to support it. It "might" happen; it "could" happen; has the "potential" to happen. No disrespect, but have you ever read a story where Gunny's point actually took place, caused a problem? I have never read about such a case, but that's me.
My counter view certainly was based upon my opinion. However, the facts speak for themselves in Chicago's gun laws results.
Why is it Rahm has body guards that carry guns, and I cannot defend myself, or my family, or "you" with my concealed gun?
IMO it is far more likely you would be greatful I stepped up to protect/save you, than your happiness that Rahm passed yet another gun law. I could be wrong?
The New York incident is itself a very good example of trained gun slingers making mistakes. Can you imagine if good samaritans had jumped into the mix? If cops could do that kind of damage under those circumstances, what makes you think you would have done better?
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#20 Aug 27, 2012
Retards wrote:
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I bet if you could ask the dead victim and his family if they wish law makers would have allowed him to carry to defend himself they would say YES????
Good point, but I wonder if the friendly fire victims might have another perspective about the flying bullets.
Retards

United States

#21 Aug 27, 2012
Appalled wrote:
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Good point, but I wonder if the friendly fire victims might have another perspective about the flying bullets.
One innocent victim was quoted in the wall street journal saying no big deal he got shot, stuff happens and he is okay with it? I think he must have been shell shocked???? I feel the officers were extremely negligent in their decisions. This incident is not saying much for the training the NYPD is given.

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