Wyllie retiring for LW

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HUGE

Mountain View, CA

#1 Dec 13, 2012
http://lw210.org/news/stories.php...

Wyllie and Eddy retiring
Anonymous

Des Plaines, IL

#2 Dec 13, 2012
2 great guys, who built a great district.
Confused

Frankfort, IL

#3 Dec 14, 2012
IllinoisBean wrote:
2 great guys, who built a great district.
I think you mean empire.
Mom of two

West Chicago, IL

#4 Dec 14, 2012
Hope some things change for the better in 210, such as adding some Manhattan kids into West.

What a waste of our tax money having those kids bussed past West to get to Central.

Maybe small change compaired to other things,
but it all adds up.
NotAntiUnionAnti Greed

Lisle, IL

#5 Dec 14, 2012
Put this on Patch and figured I'd throw it up here too.

So the district announces two top-level retirements and their replacements at the same meeting? Only at LW... Every other large suburban district would go through a nationwide search for replacements given that scenario. Even if those districts hire from within, they still go through the process of interviewing highly qualified candidates from great districts across the country.

LW is stale and needs fresh leadership. They don't need handpicked successors who were groomed in the "Lincoln Way". The same "Lincoln Way" that overbuilt a district and focused more on land speculation and building Olympic size swimming pools than installing technology in the classrooms.

Wyllie would have been a great CEO. I always thought he wished he would've gone that route. He always seemed more comfortable hosting Rotary meetings and mingling with business professionals than he did meeting with students and teachers. He spent his time at LW making it as businesslike as possible. He used the district and its resources as a vehicle for economic development, speculated on land when real estate values were high and built a district that can house 12,000 students when the enrollment is only 7,400.

He was a great leader. No one can deny that. He just may have been in the wrong profession. Best of luck in retirement.
Christmas Came Early

Lisle, IL

#6 Dec 14, 2012
11 days ahead of schedule, Christmas came early to the Lincoln-Way area.

Wyllie and lieutenant Eddy have run District 210 into the ground.

1) We have a capacity of 12,000 in four buildings for which we have only 7,000 students.

2) The schools are hugely staffed with friends of Wyllie, friends of Eddy, relatives of both, and a lot of younger people who aren't there for the kids or the taxpayers.

3) PSAT and ACT scores are stagnant at best and L-W grads are no longer seen by employers and colleges as being a cut abocve the rest.

4) Among would-be teachers and student-teachers, L-W has made the list of "Don't Go There" due to its regressive policies, micro-management, and Mickey Mouse administrators.

What a shame, District 210 has long been the garden spot of the south suburbs that is otherwise strewn with weeds and rubble. Under Wyllie and Eddy it has slipped badly.

When I say my prayers tonight, I'll include Mr. Tingley. He's inheriting a dfistrict that's in tatters, is also losing a quality principal in Mike Gardner (in June 2013), and has a financial predicament that would've caused the late Lee Rosenquist to have nightmares.
Forum reader

Manhattan, IL

#7 Dec 14, 2012
From where in Manhattan? My daughter and the kids she knows are bussed down Smith Rd. to School House or down Cedar.
Mom of two wrote:
Hope some things change for the better in 210, such as adding some Manhattan kids into West.
What a waste of our tax money having those kids bussed past West to get to Central.
Maybe small change compaired to other things,
but it all adds up.
Concerned Citizen

Joliet, IL

#8 Dec 14, 2012
Christmas Came Early wrote:
11 days ahead of schedule, Christmas came early to the Lincoln-Way area.
Wyllie and lieutenant Eddy have run District 210 into the ground.
1) We have a capacity of 12,000 in four buildings for which we have only 7,000 students.
2) The schools are hugely staffed with friends of Wyllie, friends of Eddy, relatives of both, and a lot of younger people who aren't there for the kids or the taxpayers.
3) PSAT and ACT scores are stagnant at best and L-W grads are no longer seen by employers and colleges as being a cut abocve the rest.
4) Among would-be teachers and student-teachers, L-W has made the list of "Don't Go There" due to its regressive policies, micro-management, and Mickey Mouse administrators.
What a shame, District 210 has long been the garden spot of the south suburbs that is otherwise strewn with weeds and rubble. Under Wyllie and Eddy it has slipped badly.
When I say my prayers tonight, I'll include Mr. Tingley. He's inheriting a dfistrict that's in tatters, is also losing a quality principal in Mike Gardner (in June 2013), and has a financial predicament that would've caused the late Lee Rosenquist to have nightmares.
I have to disagree. I am a LW grad from the 70's era and the school is better now than it ever has been.

While the referendums were expensive, you don't build a public building for your needs currently - you build for the future. Referendums are difficult to pass and the voters do not take kindly to being asked year after year for money. In time this area will be all rooftops. I don't think anyone anticipate the crash in the housing market. Had that not happened, we would probably be well on our way by now.

Finally, I'm glad the students have access to pools. Wish they would have had them when I was there. I had to take swiming lessons at Carl Sandburg HS.
Christmas Came Early

Lisle, IL

#9 Dec 14, 2012
Concerned Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to disagree. I am a LW grad from the 70's era and the school is better now than it ever has been.
While the referendums were expensive, you don't build a public building for your needs currently - you build for the future. Referendums are difficult to pass and the voters do not take kindly to being asked year after year for money. In time this area will be all rooftops. I don't think anyone anticipate the crash in the housing market. Had that not happened, we would probably be well on our way by now.
Finally, I'm glad the students have access to pools. Wish they would have had them when I was there. I had to take swiming lessons at Carl Sandburg HS.
Oh boy, LW is all about those four swimming pools. Get real!

You state that you are a "70's era grad". Have you seen the PSAT and ACT stats that have been com ing down the pipe the last few years? For a district that's blue collar/white collar and middle to upper middle class the scores are abysmal. Oh sure, the LW schools rank high in this area. What district couldn't outdo Joliet Central, Romeoville, Rich South, and Hillcrest (among others close by)?

When Larry Wyllie decided that junior high graduating classes would never be broken up to create attendance groups for new schools, that was the kiss of death for this area. If Mr. Tingley's first act is to revoke that silly idea, he'll find that the district needs but three schools and that one should be mothballed.
Anonymous

Des Plaines, IL

#10 Dec 14, 2012
Christmas Came Early wrote:
11 days ahead of schedule, Christmas came early to the Lincoln-Way area.
Wyllie and lieutenant Eddy have run District 210 into the ground.
1) We have a capacity of 12,000 in four buildings for which we have only 7,000 students.
2) The schools are hugely staffed with friends of Wyllie, friends of Eddy, relatives of both, and a lot of younger people who aren't there for the kids or the taxpayers.
3) PSAT and ACT scores are stagnant at best and L-W grads are no longer seen by employers and colleges as being a cut abocve the rest.
4) Among would-be teachers and student-teachers, L-W has made the list of "Don't Go There" due to its regressive policies, micro-management, and Mickey Mouse administrators.
What a shame, District 210 has long been the garden spot of the south suburbs that is otherwise strewn with weeds and rubble. Under Wyllie and Eddy it has slipped badly.
When I say my prayers tonight, I'll include Mr. Tingley. He's inheriting a dfistrict that's in tatters, is also losing a quality principal in Mike Gardner (in June 2013), and has a financial predicament that would've caused the late Lee Rosenquist to have nightmares.
What a bunch of BS. I went to a very good university for four years, and LW was the reason college was so easy. The athletics are fantastic no matter the Wins. Teachers have energy and coaches try 100% no matter the talent level. If you close a building then you risk putting your kids taxes, if they live here, at risk. But it's easy to put the burden on others. I would rather pay high taxes and have these buildings. But hey who I am, just a family guy who values my kids schools, and not having a large home. Move to Joliet, or plainfeild if you want that, see if you like the schools three. Excuse grammar, this done on iPhone and quickly.
Concerned Citizen

Joliet, IL

#11 Dec 14, 2012
Christmas Came Early wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh boy, LW is all about those four swimming pools. Get real!
You state that you are a "70's era grad". Have you seen the PSAT and ACT stats that have been com ing down the pipe the last few years? For a district that's blue collar/white collar and middle to upper middle class the scores are abysmal. Oh sure, the LW schools rank high in this area. What district couldn't outdo Joliet Central, Romeoville, Rich South, and Hillcrest (among others close by)?
When Larry Wyllie decided that junior high graduating classes would never be broken up to create attendance groups for new schools, that was the kiss of death for this area. If Mr. Tingley's first act is to revoke that silly idea, he'll find that the district needs but three schools and that one should be mothballed.
No need for sarcasm. I'm not sure what you intend to mean by saying "get real"

Our ACT and PSAT scores compare favorably with most schools in the area. Nothing to complain about there.

And I don't think anyone reasonably believes that LW is "all about those 4 pools" as you say. My statement (which I stand by) is that I am glad the kids have swimming and life safety programs. Most top tier schools have them.
Christmas Came Early

Lisle, IL

#12 Dec 14, 2012
Many area residents have been sold a bill of goods about their schools: elementary, junior high, and high school.

It's great to know "Illinois Bean" thought college was 'easy' because of the LW days. To read his/her post, however, one instantly notes the low level of composition exhibited. If THAT'S what college material is we're indeed in trouble these days. IB, did you even graduate from a college?

And to "Concerned Citizen", it's simply not enough to say that LW standardized test scores "compare favorably" with schools in the area. One is setting the bar pretty low when matching up with Joliet Central, Lockport, Rich South, Peotone, and Wilmington.

District 210 provides a good education but it does not come close to accomplishing what it could. There are many reasons for this and Wyllie's departure could improve things. Conversely, I doubt it.

By the way, there is a high school board election next April and FIVE seats are up for grabs. Let's see what sort of turnout we have. 35% of all possible NL voters didn't bother to show up five weeks ago so I'm making a bet that not even 35% WILL show up this time. I'd predict the Cubs winning a World Series before I believe that people around here really give a sh** enough to be bothered to take 15 minutes to vote.
someone

Hazel Crest, IL

#13 Dec 14, 2012
Pools? Thats a funny thing to attack. High Schools all over have pools. Lmao! I think Bean and Concerned offer very good rebuttals to he typical 'blame everyone with responsibility' post.
Mom of two

Palatine, IL

#14 Dec 14, 2012
Forum reader wrote:
From where in Manhattan? My daughter and the kids she knows are bussed down Smith Rd. to School House or down Cedar.
<quoted text>
Is not Cedar & Illinois hwy closer to West than to central?
Mom of two

Palatine, IL

#15 Dec 14, 2012
When Larry Wyllie decided that junior high graduating classes would never be broken up to create attendance groups for new schools, that was the kiss of death for this area

Totally agree.
The high school a student attends should be based on where they live, not what grade school they went to.
Forum reader

Manhattan, IL

#16 Dec 14, 2012
That is New Lenox, not Manhattan. There is probably a little over a mile distance to either school from that intersection.
Mom of two wrote:
<quoted text>
Is not Cedar & Illinois hwy closer to West than to central?
Appalled

Wilmington, IL

#17 Dec 14, 2012
LOL. Your stripes are showing.
Please

New Lenox, IL

#18 Dec 14, 2012
Forum reader wrote:
That is New Lenox, not Manhattan. There is probably a little over a mile distance to either school from that intersection.
<quoted text>
Manhattan is way closer to Lincoln Way West. It's a waste of time and money to bus Manhattan kids to Central. It makes no sense at all. They bus kids over near Parker Road in New Lenox over to West. In what world does this make sense? Those kids should be going to central. They go to west because all Liberty kids go to west and Martino kids go to Central. It is a ridiculous and plain stupid way of doing things. I was never impressed with Wylie and I'm not sorry to see him retire.
non smoker

Frankfort, IL

#19 Dec 15, 2012
Mom of two wrote:
Hope some things change for the better in 210, such as adding some Manhattan kids into West.

What a waste of our tax money having those kids bussed past West to get to Central.

Maybe small change compaired to other things,
but it all adds up.
Yes, Manhattan kids should go to West!
Forum reader

Manhattan, IL

#20 Dec 15, 2012
I agree. It is totally a waste of money and resources. We were hoping our kids would go to West.
Please wrote:
<quoted text>
Manhattan is way closer to Lincoln Way West. It's a waste of time and money to bus Manhattan kids to Central. It makes no sense at all. They bus kids over near Parker Road in New Lenox over to West. In what world does this make sense? Those kids should be going to central. They go to west because all Liberty kids go to west and Martino kids go to Central. It is a ridiculous and plain stupid way of doing things. I was never impressed with Wylie and I'm not sorry to see him retire.

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