The New Lenox Police

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Since: Dec 11

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#263 Dec 27, 2011
Carmen San Diego wrote:
<quoted text>I could have guessed that you would have a hard time following along. But then you out did yourself and used Paul Modrowski as your support. The Paul Modrowski that is a convicted murderer and in prison. Give majority of prisoners a chance to blog to the outside and see how many say they are innocent. A little biased, don't you think? Have you checked the facts of the case, or filed a FOIA and looked at the evidence? Or just read a blog by a convicted murderer and treat it as gospel? I am pretty sure that every guilty person tells the truth. Now what were you saying about the good stuff? Did you leave any for everyone else?

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-04-28...
Yes. Blogs arent gospel?! My comparison about modrowski case is not about the conviction, which I have read transcripts, interviews and actually saw some friggin'
Real life evidence! What I WAS referring to was ONLY the days that modrowski was held, "in custody" and under the protection of the police?!?
Again, if I really have to explain everything in full detail, I lose interest..

“my-take-on-truth .blogspot.com”

Since: Dec 11

New Lenox, IL

#264 Dec 27, 2011
Carmen San Diego wrote:
<quoted text>
Here ya go Bobby,
http://www.isp.state.il.us/crime/domesticviol...
"According to Illinois law, police officers must take steps to protect a victim of domestic abuse whenever a "family or household member" has committed any act of "abuse."
Pretty self explanatory, but I am sure you can twist it to try and make it fit.
I was actually aware of that. I stumbled upon it when researching.

But here's the thing: If police negligence lead to someone's death would the police officers who were acting in a negligent manner be legally responsible for their actions? In other words are there consequences for not protecting people? Let's take it a stop further and say the officer simply said "Eh, I don't feel like protecting him" and he died as a result. Would he be legally punished? Well, according to the law what he did was wrong although a specific punishment isn't outlines. However, if it were outlines and something was carried out against him it would be struck down by the courts due to the precedent that was set by the case that I referenced earlier.

Since: Nov 11

Bolingbrook, IL

#265 Dec 27, 2011
Carmen San Diego: Y u no be smart?

http://troll.me/people-y-u-no-be-more-smart/

“my-take-on-truth .blogspot.com”

Since: Dec 11

New Lenox, IL

#266 Dec 27, 2011
Appalled wrote:
<quoted text>
.....and you cannot predict the unquestionable failure of an entire institution based on those same laws.
Unquestionable failure? What? When did I ever say that? The entire point was that it should be looked at. And even if the police don't have any duty to protect people it's not an instutitionalized failure unless you define failure as the police not protecting people, which I never did.

I'd certainly prefer if the police did have to protect people, but I wouldn't say that the institution has "failed" simply because they don't have to.
Carmen San Diego

United States

#267 Dec 27, 2011
Blago2020 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes. Blogs arent gospel?! My comparison about modrowski case is not about the conviction, which I have read transcripts, interviews and actually saw some friggin'
Real life evidence! What I WAS referring to was ONLY the days that modrowski was held, "in custody" and under the protection of the police?!?
Again, if I really have to explain everything in full detail, I lose interest..
So people should just guess your point because you lose interest in explaining or supporting it. You tell people to read the words of a convicted murderer, but don't explain why. But then in the same post you describe cases against the police. So from now on we should guess your points, got it. I am going to guess that your points are idiotic at best, but you are right, I am losing interest as well.
Carmen San Diego

United States

#268 Dec 27, 2011
Edhunter93 wrote:
Carmen San Diego: Y u no be smart?

http://troll.me/people-y-u-no-be-more-smart/
Hey it's the guy that makes the story up as he goes. Did you every figure out your conspiracy theory, sport?
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#269 Dec 27, 2011
An Anonymous Student wrote:
<quoted text>
It frankly doesn't matter what the "majority" of police think. What matters is the structure of the institution. Let me give you a few examples:
Case 1: 99% of police think it is their duty but laws decided otherwise. It is in this case that the 1% of cops who do not feel that way and perhaps some of the 99% who feel it is their job but do not do their job well CAN get away with not protecting people because they have no legal responsibility to do so. It also seems likely that in such an institution cops belonging to the 1% would rise to the top at equal rates to those in the 99% due to it not being advisable either way when it comes to legality.
Sounds like a prediction of failure to me.
Marsha Brady

New Lenox, IL

#270 Dec 27, 2011
Why is anyone interested in debating with an eighteen year old who finds reading blogs, articles, statements, books more important than going to school or earning a paycheck? The
kid spends more time on Topix commenting and constant quoting of things he reads but has NEVER experienced (oh wait he did say he was pepper sprayed and put into hand cuffs- so that is why the police are corrupt- me bad!)
My grandfather was a cop, my uncle, and brother- they are not corrupt, they protect and serve the people in the city/county that employs them. If you break the law their job is to enforce it. If you require assistance they have no problem providing it. This is made perfectly clear everyday at roll call. This is their job (something the kid knows nothing about). There's a beautiful world out there - much
different than the pics on Google Images!

Since: Nov 11

Bolingbrook, IL

#271 Dec 27, 2011
Carmen San Diego wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey it's the guy that makes the story up as he goes. Did you every figure out your conspiracy theory, sport?
if u accuse me of making up story's i will not be too annoyed by it even though what i say is true. but id like to know where you got the making it up as i go part. my arguemeant and accusation about and too the NLPD have stayed the same so saying i am making it up as i go is invalid. please point out an example with the exact quote of when i contradicted myself and i might consider your arguemeant valid.
Marsha Brady

New Lenox, IL

#272 Dec 27, 2011
Carmen San Diego wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey it's the guy that makes the story up as he goes. Did you every figure out your conspiracy theory, sport?
C'mon give the guy a chance- he's only had 10 years to think about it! Thank God there is NOTHING going on in the United States TODAY that he should be concerned about! Lmfao!
Carmen San Diego

United States

#273 Dec 27, 2011
Marsha Brady wrote:
<quoted text>C'mon give the guy a chance- he's only had 10 years to think about it! Thank God there is NOTHING going on in the United States TODAY that he should be concerned about! Lmfao!
Maybe he can start digging into that whole JFK thing next. Lol

Since: Nov 11

Bolingbrook, IL

#274 Dec 27, 2011
Marsha Brady wrote:
<quoted text>
C'mon give the guy a chance- he's only had 10 years to think about it! Thank God there is NOTHING going on in the United States TODAY that he should be concerned about! Lmfao!
my curiosity towards 9/11 should not be reflected in a topic about harassment by the police. yes wondering about what could be a reason for the war we are currently in is nothing i should be concerned about.
Carmen San Diego

United States

#275 Dec 27, 2011
Edhunter93 wrote:
<quoted text>if u accuse me of making up story's i will not be too annoyed by it even though what i say is true. but id like to know where you got the making it up as i go part. my arguemeant and accusation about and too the NLPD have stayed the same so saying i am making it up as i go is invalid. please point out an example with the exact quote of when i contradicted myself and i might consider your arguemeant valid.
I have given sources and points. You have given a story that you manipulate to refute any detractors.

“my-take-on-truth .blogspot.com”

Since: Dec 11

New Lenox, IL

#276 Dec 27, 2011
Appalled wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like a prediction of failure to me.
The example that I used as an explanation for my thought process where the numbers were completely made up to emphasize the point and weren't based on any known system? Okay.

“my-take-on-truth .blogspot.com”

Since: Dec 11

New Lenox, IL

#277 Dec 27, 2011
No arguing with that.

“my-take-on-truth .blogspot.com”

Since: Dec 11

New Lenox, IL

#278 Dec 27, 2011
Marsha Brady wrote:
Why is anyone interested in debating with an eighteen year old who finds reading blogs, articles, statements, books more important than going to school or earning a paycheck?
Okay, so your assertion is that I'm wrong because I'm younger than you and I read books, articles, and people's opinions?

Okay, I could just as easily make the assertion that you're wrong because you're older than me and because you don't read those things, but I won't.

No, I'll assert that you're an idiot for typing all of that up, looking at it, and saying "yup, that's what I want to convey to the world!"
Marsha Brady wrote:
The kid spends more time on Topix commenting and constant quoting of things he reads but has NEVER experienced (oh wait he did say he was pepper sprayed and put into hand cuffs- so that is why the police are corrupt- me bad!)
Clearly that was what my argument was based on *rolls eyes*
Marsha Brady wrote:
My grandfather was a cop, my uncle, and brother- they are not corrupt, they protect and serve the people in the city/county that employs them.
What would your uncle and brother do if a homeless man went to the store and started eating food?

If they'd use force to stop him then they are both his enemies and mine.
Marsha Brady wrote:
If you break the law their job is to enforce it. If you require assistance they have no problem providing it. This is made perfectly clear everyday at roll call. This is their job (something the kid knows nothing about).
Law =/= just.

Try to think outside of you and your family's perspective for once.

Here's a different (that I don't necessarily endorse) one:

Marsha Brady wrote:
There's a beautiful world out there - much different than the pics on Google Images!
Err. I beg to disagree on Google Images. Much of Google Images is beautiful. It didn't really take much work to find that:

http://www.google.com/search...
inspectorBlago

New Lenox, IL

#279 Dec 27, 2011
Carmen San Diego wrote:
<quoted text>What exactly does shit in your mouth have to do with learning? Wouldn't it be the ears? Or in this case the eyes, because this is a website forum? I don't know or care to know what your fetishes are, but this probably isn't the place for it. But I am glad you were able to "find" the discrepancy, after all you did write it. I guess we should all be glad you are not a detective.
I just figured if you weren't concentrating on the shit in your mouth, you may be able to digest what is actually being said here.. And don't be so certain ;-*

“Cawww!”

Since: Dec 11

In my tree

#280 Dec 27, 2011
Murder is Murder. Not all police are bad, but there is no real accountability when it comes to wrongdoings buy law enforcement, because it is a government organization.

I just wish due process meant something these days. But words on a piece of paper, don't really matter anymore. They are just words, to the powers that be.

Watch this video and just think of the victim as a dog. Cause that is how the system treats people these days.

http://youtu.be/Bl9H5dL2w1E

Since: Nov 11

Bolingbrook, IL

#281 Dec 27, 2011
Carmen San Diego wrote:
<quoted text>
I have given sources and points. You have given a story that you manipulate to refute any detractors.
which story is that? the one about the cops sitting on the bottom of a hill on Haven Ave. with a speed trap? Or the one about how the only minority at the park was searched and then had his marijuana stolen. But please give me your sources id be very interested to read them and see where i "manipulated" my point. either way at least i have a point. you dont or if you do your point is wat anonymous said wich is "I DONT WANNA HEAR IT *covers ears and screams* DFLGHDFLGHDFLKJFGHFDJGHDFJGHDF JLKHGJLDSHGKJDLHGKJDFGHDFHGLKD
inspectorBlago

New Lenox, IL

#282 Dec 27, 2011
Edhunter93 wrote:
<quoted text>which story is that? the one about the cops sitting on the bottom of a hill on Haven Ave. with a speed trap? Or the one about how the only minority at the park was searched and then had his marijuana stolen. But please give me your sources id be very interested to read them and see where i "manipulated" my point. either way at least i have a point. you dont or if you do your point is wat anonymous said wich is "I DONT WANNA HEAR IT *covers ears and screams* DFLGHDFLGHDFLKJFGHFDJGHDFJGHDF JLKHGJLDSHGKJDLHGKJDFGHDFHGLKD
My kids and I sing this song by Johnny bregnar, it's called bladalada la. I'd like to dedicate that to my sweet Carmy; along with a pretty cool rendition of the alphabet song.. Again, by Johnny bregnar.

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