Remember New Ken nightlife
olderndirt

El Paso, TX

#682 Oct 29, 2008
Rat wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Stevep,
Yep, you're correct, it was the Elks at 4th & 7th but you raised another interesting point. Where was the VFW when it was downtown? Sounds like a place that Dirt may have haunted.
I thought it was on 7th st. between 4th and 5th. ave. I was in there a time or two with my dad who was a WWII vet. but you guys have me wondering if I'm right about the location.
I wasn't elegable to join since I was not in what was considered a shooting war. I was in the "cold war". I did border guard duty on the Chech. border with Russian tank guns a couple hundred yards away trained on us. When we moved, their guns moved. Pretty scary. We flipped the bird back and for and exchanged insults but since there was no shooting going on I couldn't join the VETS club.
good old boys

New Castle, PA

#683 Oct 29, 2008
bob kamist wrote:
TO STEVEP ,
THE SAMS CONNECTED TO THE MANNERINO'S WAS A WILLIE SAMS. HE AND HIS WIFE ALICE HAD 2 CHILDREN , SONNY (STILL LIVING IN NK) AND NORMA (BABE )LIVING IN NYC. WILLIE WENT TO PRISON FOR A CANADIAN BOND ROBBERY AND PASSED AWAY QUITE A WHILE AGO. BOTH SONNY AND NORMA GRADUATED 2 TO 3 YEARS AFTER 1954. I DO SEEM TO REMEMBER A GETRUDE SAM BUT I DO NOT THINK HER FAMILY WAS CONNECTED.
I GRADUATED IN 1954.
Willie Sams wife Alice is still alive and doing great she's got to be pushing 90yrs old.she still drives, she lives in the arnold towers.
Margie

Pittsburgh, PA

#684 Oct 29, 2008
Willie Sams was a partner with the Mannarinos in a scrap yard business. He was also involved in at least one of their vending businesses, and was conviced of income tax evasion in connection with that business, as was Sam.(Nu Ken Novelty, I think.) According to FBI records, he was an important part of the bookmaking end of the Mannarino operation.

I don't ever recall seeing his name connected with the Canadian bond case. I believe those tried in that case were Sam Mannarino, Norman Rothman, William Rabin and George Rosden. I think the only one convicted was Rabin.

According to FBI records, it appears that Edward "Ky" Sams may have worked for the Mannarinos at various gambling venues over the years. I think he was arrested in at least one of the raids in the 50s or 60s.

In answer to a question someone had a while back, those tried and convicted in the gun-running case were Stuart Sutor, Victor Carlucci, Daniel "Speedo" Hanna, Joseph "Red" Giordano, Norman Rothman, and Joseph Merola.
My Town

Wheeling, WV

#685 Oct 29, 2008
Hey Margie...I'm impressed, sounds like you are in the know. Were all of these people from the area, most names don't sound familiar.
Margie

Pittsburgh, PA

#686 Oct 29, 2008
Norman Rothman was from Florida. He had apparently dealt with the Mannarinos over the years Some say he fronted for them in their Cuban casino. He had Cuban connections.

William Rabin, of Chicago, knew Sam at least back to the late 40s/early 50s, associated in an ill-fated enterprise set up to manufacture juke boses. Apparently they didn't have patent rights to the juke boxes.

George Rosden was an attorney, from Washington, D.C.

Stuart Sutor was the pilot of the plane used to transport the guns. He got involved through a Dr. Pessolano, originally from NK and then living in Florida, friend of Sam's.

Joseph Merola was originally from the Pittsburgh area, a jewelry thief, may have been associated with Abe Zeid, also relocated to Florida. I think I read that he may have been a government (FBI and/or CIA) informat at some time, either before or after the gun-running.
Margie

Pittsburgh, PA

#687 Oct 29, 2008
Does anyone remember a mansion on top of Bouquet Hill? By the time I saw it, in the late 60s, it appeared to have been abandoned for some time. Does anyone know its history?
Deb

Latrobe, PA

#688 Oct 29, 2008
If I am thinking of the right place it belonged to the Hessom family.
Atlantan

Atlanta, GA

#689 Oct 30, 2008
Margie wrote:
Does anyone remember a mansion on top of Bouquet Hill? By the time I saw it, in the late 60s, it appeared to have been abandoned for some time. Does anyone know its history?
I remember exploring it around 1966, abandoned but probably savable. Would have made a great night club or restaurant. It was called Hite House, I think there is still a Hite Road up
there. It burned when I was in high school, probably 1968, and the fire could be seen all around the valley. Burrell Construction owned the property. I believe the last occupants were two sisters who, as they got older, just could not maintain it any more. I can't remember their name.
Bouquet Hill

Medina, OH

#690 Oct 30, 2008
Did any of you climb Bouquet Hill? It was the thing to do along with going through the "pipes" along Powers Drive.
bob kamist

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#691 Oct 30, 2008
Margie,
Could you please contact me at [email protected] . I want to reply to your comment but I do not wish to post it.
Bob
valley camper

Loma Linda, CA

#692 Oct 30, 2008
Bouquet Hill wrote:
Did any of you climb Bouquet Hill? It was the thing to do along with going through the "pipes" along Powers Drive.
Was Bouquet Hill the hill across the Ninth St bridge? If if was we Valley Camp kids use to climb it almost every day during our lunch hour at 4th Ave Jr High while in 7th grade. We took our lunch and ate it on top of the hill.
stevep

AOL

#693 Oct 31, 2008
Bouquet Hill wrote:
Did any of you climb Bouquet Hill? It was the thing to do along with going through the "pipes" along Powers Drive.
The Bouquet Hill that I know of was across the river on the Creighton side.The Hite mansion that was mentioned a little while back was on the hill along with W.K.P.A's radio tower.Dirt & I climbed that hill many a time.Agan Park is located up there too.Years back you would have some "A-holes" go up there & burn crosses for the hell of it.They had no ties with the Klan but they seemed to get their Jolly's from burning the crosses. I knew a few of them.
deb

Latrobe, PA

#694 Oct 31, 2008
Yep Bouquet Hill the old house was the Hessom home
Benjamin Hessom. His wife was Anna
My Town

Wheeling, WV

#695 Nov 1, 2008
Back in the late 60's we went up to the "mansion" and were exploring the place...it was dark and spooky! The police came by and were going to arrest us for trespassing...Burrell Construction bought it and after the fire demolished it, is that where the townhouses are now?
I never climbed the hill to get there, you must have been some kinda kids to do all of that at lunch time?? How long was that lunch?
Wonder if the Hessoms were the ones with the restaurant?
Hey Margie, did you ever have the lamb and syrian bread at the Bachelors Club?
deb

Latrobe, PA

#696 Nov 1, 2008
Hessom Restaurant was indeed a relation to the Hessom family you are talking about. I think Homer Hessom (benjamins brother) his son is the one who opened Hessoms Restaurant
Beetle Bailey

Pittsburgh, PA

#697 Nov 2, 2008
xnewken wrote:
<quoted text>I was talkng to an old timer yesterday about the trolley system & he recalls when he was a kid the trolley would come from N.K thru Springdale- Cheswick & so on, on that side of the river.His family would take him to visit family in Blawnox ,but he doesn't recall it going any further than that.
I'm from Blawnox and I remember they took the trolley tracks out around 1949, we had to go to Aspinwall at the Loop to catch it, we also could take it to Kennywood and the conductor would get out and change the the tracks. I wasn't surprised to hear Cassie Sams is still a bit wild.
My Town

Wheeling, WV

#698 Nov 2, 2008
The Arnold Drug Store had a Pharmacist that left the country and was involved in some drug thing?? Anyone know anything about that?? Also isn't it a shame that the CGH building is almost empty, sure wish there was some way of making it useful...maybe a residence for young people that attend Penn State NK or CCAC in New Ken. The way it is set up with the bathroom in each room seems ideal??

“Ken Hi and Springdale Hi”

Since: Jul 08

Glendale CA,

#699 Nov 2, 2008
new ken betty wrote:
Hello all....I can't keep up with you guys. John Young was my clasmate. He was in my home room, very quiet and seemed shy...I didn't know him well at all. He was smart. Another friend told me that he became a geologist and went missing in the Arizona ddesert... not found for a year. Sad. I did not know KennyRussell's family...didn't know Kenny until my committee worked with his committee on the 2000 reunion. Didn't know Bert Russell either. Sorry.
The Keystorne Dairy was on Sixth Ave in the 300 block and was a hang-out for kids before it was called hanging out. The tracks are still there although there has not been passenger service for years. We used to ride the Kennywood train on those tracks and the stations in N.K. and Parnassus were crowded with Pittsburgh commutters every morning of the week.
It's almost Halloween and I am reminded of the N.K. city Halloween parades long ago when children dressed up and paraded past the City Building on 4th avenue just below 11th steeer on Halloween night. There were prizes and it was a big deal with a big turnout of kids and parents.
When I was a teenager I worked at Storm's Hosiery shop on Saturdays and school holidays. N.K. was crowded on saturdays. 5 movie theaters, the Kenmar, the clubs, the stores...everybody came to N.K. then.
Forgive me if I don't answer quickly or completely. The small print is really hard to read but worth the effort.
Hi Betty: I, also, am slow at responding. When a teenager I worked in Silverman's Department Store as a stock boy, and for two seasons, I was the Santa Claus. That was fun - my first step towards show biz. I have a funny story about my first day as Santa Claus.
This year I had fun at Halloween. Created a set in front of my little house from part of a set from one of my plays. www.bogwig.com will show you three photos of it as it grew dark. If you also click on "enter" you will be taken to my book "Cancel Christmas." My first publication is in large print, but doesn't have any illustrations.
In the yearbook, did it have photos of the seventh and eighth grade students? If so I am in the book. Sure would love to see that class page.
Betty, please keep sending your memories, they are welcome, I am sure. In this day of so much negativity, this thread, with its wonderful memories, and the great people on it, is good therapy. Sam

“Ken Hi and Springdale Hi”

Since: Jul 08

Glendale CA,

#700 Nov 2, 2008
olderndirt wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought it was on 7th st. between 4th and 5th. ave. I was in there a time or two with my dad who was a WWII vet. but you guys have me wondering if I'm right about the location.
I wasn't elegable to join since I was not in what was considered a shooting war. I was in the "cold war". I did border guard duty on the Chech. border with Russian tank guns a couple hundred yards away trained on us. When we moved, their guns moved. Pretty scary. We flipped the bird back and for and exchanged insults but since there was no shooting going on I couldn't join the VETS club.
I know the Elk's Club was on the corner of 4th Ave. and 7th St. because, I almost grew up in the Elk's Club. My Grandfather belonged and from a small kid until I left New Ken, the elk's club was one of my stops. I became an Elk when I turned 21. My Dad was Exalted ruler at the time. If you remember going in the side door and walking down a set of steps to get to the bar, you remember the Elk's Club. I thought the VFW was near the Moose Club and the White Tower hamburger joint. Across the street was the phone company. I loved those five cent hamburgers.

“Ken Hi and Springdale Hi”

Since: Jul 08

Glendale CA,

#701 Nov 2, 2008
Margie wrote:
Willie Sams was a partner with the Mannarinos in a scrap yard business. He was also involved in at least one of their vending businesses, and was conviced of income tax evasion in connection with that business, as was Sam.(Nu Ken Novelty, I think.) According to FBI records, he was an important part of the bookmaking end of the Mannarino operation.
I don't ever recall seeing his name connected with the Canadian bond case. I believe those tried in that case were Sam Mannarino, Norman Rothman, William Rabin and George Rosden. I think the only one convicted was Rabin.
According to FBI records, it appears that Edward "Ky" Sams may have worked for the Mannarinos at various gambling venues over the years. I think he was arrested in at least one of the raids in the 50s or 60s.
In answer to a question someone had a while back, those tried and convicted in the gun-running case were Stuart Sutor, Victor Carlucci, Daniel "Speedo" Hanna, Joseph "Red" Giordano, Norman Rothman, and Joseph Merola.
Margie: I remember one of the bartenders was part of the gun running bust, could that have been "Speedo"? Whoever the bartender was, he told me personally that he had been busted along with others. Seems like I knew a couple of those guys.

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