Queens couple dead in a murder-suicide

Queens couple dead in a murder-suicide

There are 38 comments on the New York Daily News story from Apr 21, 2009, titled Queens couple dead in a murder-suicide. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

A Queens couple died Monday night in a murder-suicide following an evening argument inside the woman's Queens apartment, police said.

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Brooklyn, NY

#1 Apr 21, 2009
God Bless them both, God only knows what was really happening between them. For those of you who have nothing better to do than talk garbage shut up! Rest in Peace H.
Grand St Williams B


#2 Apr 22, 2009
Rest in peace Susanna, No body has the right to take another life, May God forgive you Havoc.

New York, NY

#3 Apr 22, 2009
Nobody has the right to take someones life no matter what the Situation..So Suzie may God Lead your way to rest in Peace..
You will be missed..

Bronx, NY

#4 Apr 22, 2009
No one ever knows what goes on in ppls lives behind those closed doors...But this was a Senseless & trajic act...May God have mercy on his soul...Suzie may yours Rest In Peace Doll

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Apr 22, 2009
Words cannot express what I feel today. Only that I lost one of my best friends.Only people who truly knew who Havoc was could understand him. He was one of the best people true to his friends and family. im truly heartbroken. To all the friends and family who knew Havoc please just remember that he was a good person. Just please ignore what you read and who says what and remember the HAVOC that you knew.

I love you Havoc, more than words can express.

may god rest both of the souls !!

Hampton Bays, NY

#6 Apr 22, 2009
Do you know when and where will be the viewing, I would like to pay my respect. She was a beautiful person and a great mom.RIP

Bronx, NY

#7 Apr 23, 2009
4/23 the funeral service at N.F. Walker funeral home, 87-34 80th St., Woodhaven (off Jamaica Ave.)@ 2-5pm and 7-9pm.
Flaca wrote:
Do you know when and where will be the viewing, I would like to pay my respect. She was a beautiful person and a great mom.RIP

New York, NY

#8 Apr 24, 2009
"Those without sin shall case the first stone" is whats written from the Almightly..And I am sure none of you including myself can say we are saints.No one but God knows what was happenning how they both felt the pain the hardship they were both going through. but with that said I knew Havoc all my life, he was a good friend a great person loved by many..don't believe all the nonsence you may hear, just know we lost a friend that can never be replace. My the Lord keep you both in his arms RIP.
mr brooklyn ny


#9 Apr 24, 2009
I really didn't know Robert as some of you all did or Sue, but I know Robert's mom very well and I saw last night the hurt and the pain that she is going through as well as his father and sister.
To lose a child is one of the most hurtful thing you can imagine, but to lose a mom is the same. Bothparents have to live with losingtheir son and daughter and thisis something that will always be with them and asking :WHY!!!
I was at Robert's wake and all I saw was heart-break from his family. It's wrong what he did and to have his mom, dad, sister and other family members as well as friends to grieve as they did at the wake was so sad. The same goes for the other family members as well. To lose their mommy, their daughter and other family members and friends as well.
This will affect each individuals in different ways and the most important thing to do now is not name callings, and holding responsibility on the families, because their innocent people whom are in a lot of pain and this will continue and I don't think it will get better at rhe moment.
As I stated I know Robert's mom for many, many years and you couldn't ask for a better lady to know. She loved her son and the love, joy and the relation she had with her son and daughter was special.
I know this is bothering her alot just by seeing her cry and praying. To lose someone that way something I can't explain, but I can feel the pain and sorrow to both families. May God Bless bothfamilies and pray that their sorrows become a strength and love for them . Please stop with accusations toward the two that aren't here anymore. There is enough sadness already. Let the families heal.
mr brooklyn ny


#10 Apr 25, 2009
As I said above this was a wrong thing to do , but we don't know what he was feeling at that moment. We all have been under some kind of pressure feeling like we are losing everything in our lives that we loved. Let's go on and remember the goods things about both of them and may God Bless their souls,because God is forgiven.Once again to the Gruber family may this tragedy become much easier as the days go by,and remember those beautiful memories, and to the family of Susanna may you remember those beautiful memories. One more thing I have to add that I know Robert come from a decent family and he was brought up in a respectable home and his family loved him dearly as many of his family members and friends did as well. He will definitely be MISS!! God bless you Robert!!!
My Opinion

Eden Prairie, MN

#11 May 1, 2009

Atlantic City, NJ

#12 Jun 7, 2009
RIP Auntie

Long Island City, NY

#13 Jun 8, 2009
My Dear Friend - My Mentor - My Sister.
Suzie, I always pray that when I grow-up I wanted to be just like you. Compassionate and kind so gentle and patient with others. I will never forget you for as long I live. The coward who took your life away from you will never see the face of god. May your soul rest in peace my friend!!!

Love, Auntie Diane.

Atlanta, GA

#14 Jun 9, 2009
Those we love remains with us for love itself live on. Cherished memory never fades because a love one is gone, those we love can never be more than a thought apart, for as long as there are memories, they will live on in our hearts. To Susie Family - Please remember our loving God knows best! To Havoc family - Please pray that he find peace and eternal life with his creator. May all of you tkae comfort in knowing that death is a part of life and someday we all are going to answer to that call.
A Friend

Atlanta, GA

#15 Jun 9, 2009
To all those who wrote saying this S.O.B is a nice person! Letís just start with his alias name.Ē HavocĒ and what is signifies: Chaos, Mayhem, Destruction, Disorder, Mess, Disaster, Confusion and Devastation. This man has abuse this lady by beating, raping and torturing her in every regards, and the last straws was he put a gun to her head and blows her brains out. Think about it! The family cannot have a viewing because of the way he murdered her! Wake up you all and see for yourself, donít justify this man as being a good person. He is a criminal and a coward. He will burn in hell.

New York, NY

#16 Jun 9, 2009
I agree with "a friend" it is just disgraceful what he did and those of you who called him a good person where just fooled by his multiple personality syndrome and manic depressive along with all the other things he suffered from. I am afraid his soul will not elevate for a long time and he will suffered the consequences of his actions in pergatory. Suzie will be a guardian angel to her babies and surrounded by the divine light of the Lord!

I Got Flowers Today

Atlanta, GA

#17 Jun 9, 2009
I Got Flowers Today

We had our first argument last night, and he said a lot of cruel things that really hurt me. I know he is sorry and didn't mean the things he said, because he sent me flowers today. I got flowers today.
It wasn't our anniversary or any other special day.

Last night he threw me into a wall and started to choke me. It seemed like a nightmare, I couldn't believe it was real.
I woke up this morning sore and bruised all over. I know he must be sorry cause he sent me flowers today.

I got flowers today, and it wasn't mother's day or any other special day.

Last night, he beat me up again, it was much worse than all the other times. If I leave him, what will I do? How will I take care of my kids? What about money?
I'm afraid of him and scared to leave. But I know he must be sorry because he sent me flowers today.

I got flowers today. Today was a very special day. It was the day of my funeral!
Last night, he finally killed me. He shot me to death. If only I had gathered enough courage to leave him, I would not have gotten flowers today.......

If you are against domestic abuse, please pass this along to everyone, NOT just women.

Brooklyn, NY

#18 Jun 9, 2009
We sometimes forget that... not only do we need to pray for those who have done or did wrong. I pray for those of you who talk out there elbows. Domestic abuse is never right. Neither is verbal or any type of other abuse for that matter. The past is gone but never forgotten. WE are the ones who need to make our futures right. I was there at their funerals. They are gone and F-ed to say but life is just going on. So instead of bashing people add to the solution and make yourself useful.
Missing You

Memphis, TN

#19 Jun 9, 2009
When Tomorrow Starts Without Me...
When tomorrow starts without me,
and I'm not there to see;
If the sun should rise and find your eyes,
all filled with tears for me;
I wish so much you wouldn't cry,
the way you did today,
while thinking of the many things,
we didn't get to say.
I know how much you love me,
as much as I love you,
and each time that you think of me,
I know you'll miss me too;
But when tomorrow starts without me,
please try to understand,
that an Angel came and called my name,
and took me by the hand,
and said my place was ready,
in heaven far above,
and that I'd have to leave behind,
all those I dearly love.
But as I turned to walk away,
a tear fell from my eye,
for all life, I'd always thought,
I didn't want to die.
I had so much to live for,
so much yet to do,
it seemed almost impossible,
that I was leaving you.
I thought of all the yesterdays,
the good ones and the bad,
I thought of all the love we shared,
and all the fun we had.
If I could relive yesterday,
just even for awhile,
I'd say goodbye and kiss you
and maybe see you smile.
But then I fully realized,
that this could never be,
for emptiness and memories,
would take the place of me.
And when I thought of worldly things,
I might miss come tomorrow,
I thought of you, and when I did,
my heart was filled with sorrow.
But when I walked through heaven's gates,
I felt so much at home.
When God looked down and smiled at me,
from His great golden throne,
He said, "This is eternity,
and all I've promised you".
Today for life on earth is past,
but here it starts anew.
I promise no tomorrow,
but today will always last,
and since each day's the same day,
there's no longing for the past.
But you have been so faithful,
so trusting and so true.
Though there were times you did some things,
you knew you shouldn't do.
But you have been forgiven
and now at last you're free.
So won't you take my hand
and share my life with me?
So when tomorrow starts without me,
don't think we're far apart,
for every time you think of me,
I'm right here, in your heart
Until we meet again - Good Bye!
Rest in Peace Susie

Memphis, TN

#20 Jun 9, 2009
The Soft Goodbye
when the light begins to fade
and shadows fall across the sea,
one bright star in the evening sky.
your love's light leads me on my way.
there's a dream that will not sleep,
a burning hope that will not die.
so I must go now with the wind,
and leave you waiting on the tide.
time to fly, time to touch the sky.
one voice alone, a haunting cry.
one song, one star burning bright,
may it carry me through darkest night.
rain comes over the gray hills,
and on the air, a soft goodbye.
hear the song that I sing to you
when the time has come to fly.
when I leave and take the wind
and find the land that faith will bring,
the brightest star in the evening sky
is yours to find for me.
is yours to find for me.

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