Shrewsbury notifies Southern Regional...

Shrewsbury notifies Southern Regional of intent to withdraw

There are 42 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Dec 14, 2010, titled Shrewsbury notifies Southern Regional of intent to withdraw. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Shrewsbury has notified the Southern Regional Police Commission of its intention to withdraw at the end of 2011.

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Street, MD

#1 Dec 14, 2010
Good, cant get a officer to come out here anyhow. Teens drag race up and down the road all night and we call. I guess we will be calling an ambulance next time one of these kids gets crushed. "I'm sorry we dont cover that side of the road", but we will take your tax money.

New Freedom, PA

#2 Dec 14, 2010
New Freedom should stick with Southern Regional and see how the new chief does first.

Spring Grove, PA

#3 Dec 14, 2010
Its amazing how terrible local policing is in PA. What is the incentive to work here as a police officer?

Harrisburg, PA

#4 Dec 15, 2010
We don't need tha po po

New Freedom, PA

#5 Dec 15, 2010
Why isnt there just a countywide York police department? Better coverage & less overall cost w/ a single, unified police department. Who "owns" SRPD & where will their office be if NF expels them since they are in the NF borough office?
Dan O

York, PA

#6 Dec 15, 2010
There is no way that Southwestern Regional can make a promise to provide double the patrol time that Southern's area is currently receiving. Southern Regional's taxpayers need to take a hard look at who is serving on their boards and vote them out. There is a huge conflict of interest with one of the boro managers which appears to the driving force for this entire process. Stop lying to the taxpayers and resolve the issues with your current police services and stop being the laughing stock of York County local government.

Gaithersburg, MD

#7 Dec 15, 2010
We in Shrewsburry pay high taxes but yet have a volunteer fire department, a police force that doesn not belong to us, roads that look bad, and the downtown is falling apart. Who is getting a large paycheck? When is the next town hall meeting so I can ask these questions?
Mr T

York, PA

#8 Dec 15, 2010

"New Freedom should stick with Southern Regional and see how the new chief does first."

I'm pretty sure the article said Shrewsbury submits letter. Why the reference to New Freedom? Unless, i guess, you are clueless to geography and are to stupid to know it's 2 completly different places.

Gaithersburg, MD

#9 Dec 15, 2010
Mr T wrote:
"New Freedom should stick with Southern Regional and see how the new chief does first."
I'm pretty sure the article said Shrewsbury submits letter. Why the reference to New Freedom? Unless, i guess, you are clueless to geography and are to stupid to know it's 2 completly different places.
You seem to be the stupid one, it's all covered under the same budget, and same local contract. Maybe you need to look at a map yourself.

Dover, PA

#10 Dec 15, 2010
The problem with police issues is they are under binding arbutration. They do not strike and a arbutrator sets the salaries. If you have a home grown police, taxpayers have some control of costs. The issue is costs, one bad incident (murder)and the budget goes out of control.

Shrewsbury, PA

#11 Dec 15, 2010
Mr T wrote:
"New Freedom should stick with Southern Regional and see how the new chief does first."
I'm pretty sure the article said Shrewsbury submits letter. Why the reference to New Freedom? Unless, i guess, you are clueless to geography and are to stupid to know it's 2 completly different places.
I believe the guy was referring to the part in the article where it said New Freedom was doing the same thing. Did you even read it?
Death of an Agency

Shrewsbury, PA

#12 Dec 15, 2010
It sounds to me like this is the beginning of the end of Southern Regional. Boddington couldn't save Childs' sinking ship.

York, PA

#13 Dec 15, 2010
So much for the whole regional policing concept.... I bet right now each municipality is wishing they had their OWN and ORIGINAL police departments right about now!

But unfortunately, some slick salesman sold them the regional policing song and dance, and they have been jacking up taxes and getting less and less police protection year after year!!!

THe regional policing concept is a week and inept attempt to increase police coverage and efficiency, just take a look back over the years at all the other boroughs and townships within York County that flip flop from one year to the next year, debating which police department to "contract" services from.

The ONLY and I repeat the ONLY way to modernize and expand police protection, resources and minimize costs is to establish a YORK COUNTY police department!!!

THe regional concept, albeit good intentioned, is FLAWED! There should only be three municipal law enforcement agencies within York county!

1) Create a York County PD ( merge all regional/township together and police the entire county) PSP coverage is lousy and lackluster for residents that do NOT have their own depts.!
2) York City PD (add North York and West York boroughs to the city)
3) York County Sheriff Office (decrease their size and just handle warrants/civil and court issues)- county could cut this department in half!

The interstate could then be patrolled by the State Police.

Until this happens, York county residents, regardless of which borough or township you reside, will spend and waste lots of money on police services!

Once this is accomplished, then we can merge the school districts and for the first time in the history of our county and our state, PROPERTY TAX RELIEF!!!!

But, this will NEVER happen, because this requires forethought and work! Not too mention, these townships and boroughs would not want to relinquish their little kingdoms to some other agency or group of commissioners!

Baltimore, MD

#14 Dec 15, 2010
I encourage everyone to attend your local council meetings, the problem does not lie with the Police Dept. the problem lies with your elected officials, officials who call the shots, these local councils are no different than big government. They seek things to only benefit themselves, and their close knit group. These council members are making decisions with little input from the tax payers and its happening right under your noses. They have no clue how to run a police dept, zero knowledge about public safety, yet they are making decisions that effect your safety, and the safety of your community. Do not complain as you sit in your house and not attend the meeting's and offer input. You get what pay for and who you elect. Mark my words it will shock you what goes on in these meeting's!!!!!

York, PA

#15 Dec 15, 2010
Well i think the Southern police dept is done. If they were able to get the township they would be fine. How many officers do they have? If they go with Southwestern how would they be better off? Aren't the depts the same size? Most of the small depts shouldn't be police depts. It seems that money is a big issue if your police dept has less than 15 officers.
the machine

Hanover, PA

#16 Dec 15, 2010
Politics as usual. Little municipal governments with huge Egos trying to milk the bureacratic cow for all its worth. Who are we going to replace them with? I say abolish these good ol boy twp and municipalities and go to a County and State form of Gov't. 2 levels of Govt are better then 3.

York, PA

#17 Dec 15, 2010
Reality, you make some excellent points. And the idea of two departments in York County - one for the city and one for the entire county - is one possible option that could emerge from the regional police study YorkCounts will provide to the community. It was one of the options provided to Berks County Commissioners earlier this year when Berks County ordered a study on regional policing options.

Here's the link:

York, PA

#18 Dec 15, 2010
Better yet what will the Southern do when officers start leaving? It seems to me that the "Titantic" is about to go down. Are the officers going to jump ship or go down with it? If i was in their shoes i would jump ship. I think the other area police depts will be hiring.I know i would be looking around if i worked for Southern.
lost in the woods

Newville, PA

#20 Dec 15, 2010
@Reality Stinks & Cheers ... I agree with both of you. Back years ago when our township had it's own police department, it worked! You knew the police officers and they knew what was going on...then politics got involved. We heard all of the promotion of a regional police department. It would be more cost effective, better policing, better resources, on and on. Well the only thing we get now out here lost in the woods is a bill to pay for policing we never see, unless it is a trap to generate revenue for not putting on a turn signal on a intersection that has only you and a crow flying over head. It is a joke. It is not the police's fault either. It is those township officials that are clueless and got us into this mess. I don't believe we should abolish our township governments though. I don't think our country township should be sharing the cost with those now over populated townships. It is not fair for us. Those townships can keep their big boxmarts and traffic signals and all of the cost they hae to go with it! I do believe we should either go back to having our own Township police departments or separate out the law enforcement from the townships, borough and York city and go to a county wide police department that is better organized to cover the whole county and leave our township governments alone otherwise. We'll keep paying for our cows and the other townships can keep paying for their traffic lights and crime! No matter though, regional police departments is just bad politics and we the taxpayer suffers!
Bill Webb

Philadelphia, PA

#21 Dec 15, 2010
It is very encouraging to see that there are several thoughtful and constructive comments and suggestions on this topic. I agree that local governments need much more citizen input on this kind of issue. If you are concerned, go to the Township or Borough Supervisors meetings and make your opinion known. There is opportunity for each taxpayer to speak their mind and to question local politicos. Hold their feet to the fire folks!

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