Crash delays northern I-83 traffic

Crash delays northern I-83 traffic

There are 36 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Jul 21, 2008, titled Crash delays northern I-83 traffic. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

A crash involving two tractor-trailers is delaying traffic on Interstate 83 in Cumberland and York counties.

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Enough

York, PA

#21 Jul 22, 2008
Yahoo for some states banning cell phone use on the while driving. You know that there also are some states that ban eating food while driving. I understand Conneticut is one of them. You can be pulled over and fined.
Hog Wild

Myerstown, PA

#22 Jul 22, 2008
CEB wrote:
To everyone that wants to blame this and other accidents on truckers...
Please explain to me again how this poor woman died on I-83?

I remember years ago of a similar accident on 283 when a trucker plowed into stopped traffic and killed a family of four. There was construction going on, with many warning signs. The trucker couldn't stop in time because he wasn't paying attention. What was he doing? "Watching them pour cement." was his reply.

There are many bad drivers out there (and many good truckers), but not enough truckers seem to be aware of the increased responsibility they have while in charge of their massive rigs.

Why is it called "common sense" when there is so little of it?
Amazed

Meshoppen, PA

#23 Jul 22, 2008
I personally am so pleased to see all you concerned citizens hard at work, I am sure, and still manage to have time to bash on other people who want to voice their opinions on the matter. Get a freaking life, get off the internet at work, and start earning your salaries! Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that is what our constitution is for. Or did you not graduate from high school?

In relation to this particular article, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the deceased, and my prayers are with the families of the injured.
ELVIS54

United States

#24 Jul 22, 2008
If you drive 83, tell your wife and kids you love them each day, cause it might be your last.
Eagle

Westminster, MD

#25 Jul 22, 2008
Pissed off wrote:
Just drove this piece of S4it road.
+ Truckers suck.- I'm tired of trucks in far left lane on three lane hills clearly marked "no trucks in left lane"
+ And whats so hard about staying to the right unless passing. These jackasses create huge jams by floating side by side at slow speeds.
You are the jackass! You people are ridiculous blaming all accidents on truck drivers. You would not have much of the stuff you have everyday if it weren't for truck drivers. Including gas. Our world would stop without them. You act like drivers of cars don't cause accidents. You just want to have someone else to blame your problems on; I guess its easier that way. GROW UP!
another concerned citizen

AOL

#26 Jul 22, 2008
I was involved in a chain collision accident at the I-83N split two years ago. A tractor trailer driver was too busy looking at his GPS to see which way to go on the split to notice the stopped traffic. He hit another tractor trailer, which hit a car, which hit another car, which hit me. I was driving a single cab pickup, upon impact my head slammed against the glass partition. I have two ruptured discs in my neck.

Even though the accident was his fault and I was injured, the insurance company for the trucker has treated me like a criminal. I have been subjected to humiliating depositions, they have had my family and I surveiled and they've even tried to claim my neck was already injured. But this is nothing compared to the woman who has lost her life. God bless her family as they go throught this difficult time.

Car accidents happen. This stretch of 83, however, facilitates accidents because of it's outdated and poor design. How many people have to suffer and/or die until something is done?
83 rider

Middletown, PA

#27 Jul 22, 2008
I was right there yesterday, 3 vehicles behind the accident on my motorcycle. I have driven this route for close to 11 years and I know that traffic always slows down at the top of the hill as people are switching lanes to hit the split. The truck driver did pass the large digital sign that was flashing caution - stopped traffic at exit 40B, so there was warning as there is most mornings. Everyone just needs to slow down and pay more attention. You can see slower traffic and brake lights as soon as you come down from reeser's summit by the turnpike.
Suzanne

Etters, PA

#28 Jul 22, 2008
CEB wrote:
To everyone that wants to blame this and other accidents on truckers. I agree there are truck drivers that should not be driving because of medical or other reasons. Yes, people have lost their lives in accidents with trucks. But if you were to compare the percentage of accidents, fatal and non-fatal involving commercial vehicles it is not as high as passenger vehicles.
I have driven charter buses, dump trucks and tractor-trailers in the past. I was also an on the road saleperson and in these jobs I put around 100K miles a year on. I had 3 accidents in the time I had these jobs. Only 1 was my fault, the other 2 were the fault of the other driver. How many of you have tried to stopped 80K pounds at 65mph when someone cuts you off or stopped without any warning?
I have seen people in cars and pick-up trucks putting on make-up. They have had a newspaper spread out over the steering wheel and reading it. The have had their laptop computer on their seat or steering wheel and were typing while driving. There have been many times I have seen drivers reading a book. These examples don't include shaving, doing your hair, and of course talking or texting on a cell phone.
Let's not forget about the magic exit game. It sems that every night the exit gremlin moves peoples exits. People will take the same exit every day, yet they will stay out in the left lane until the last minute. Then all at once they see where the gremlin moved their exit to this time. They will then shoot across in front of all the cars to get into the exit ramp.
Before you blame all accidents that involve a truck on the truck make sure it really was the truck drivers fault. It may take days or weeks to get the final answer.
It may take the "government officials" weeks to get the answer, thats typical. The answer is obvious to any reasonable person. The truck failed to stop and killed an innocent woman.

Will we ever put a stop to these idiot truck drivers killing people? I don't know where you get your stats or how you interpret them, but almost every time I see a bad accident it involves a tractor trailer.

And they are not only killers, but they are the most inconsiderate drivers out there. I don't drive 70MPH in the fast lane on I83 if someone is behind me but I ALWAYS incounter truckers driving 55MPH in the fast lane and will not move. I wish they would all DIE!!
CEB

Shelbyville, IN

#29 Jul 22, 2008
Suzanne wrote:
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It may take the "government officials" weeks to get the answer, thats typical. The answer is obvious to any reasonable person. The truck failed to stop and killed an innocent woman.
Will we ever put a stop to these idiot truck drivers killing people? I don't know where you get your stats or how you interpret them, but almost every time I see a bad accident it involves a tractor trailer.
And they are not only killers, but they are the most inconsiderate drivers out there. I don't drive 70MPH in the fast lane on I83 if someone is behind me but I ALWAYS incounter truckers driving 55MPH in the fast lane and will not move. I wish they would all DIE!!
The information I had at the time I wrote did not say who or what caused the accident. Today it was released that the trucker was the cause of the accident. He says he didn't see traffic was slowing.It didn't say what he was doing instead. I agree with those who do not understand why drivers of any vehicle don't pay attention. As I said in my earlier post, their are too many distractions for all of us on the road. The safest way to drive is by not doing anything except driving. All of us are guilty of making mistakes on the road.

Suzanne; please do not wish death on anyone. You have some valid points and comments. Until you have put 100K plus miles a year on driving it is hard to say that all accidents you see involve trucks. Yes there are trucks in the left lane when it says no trucks, and that could be because of all the cars passing on the right that won't let them get over. Alot of trucks are governed so they cannot go faster than a set speed so they can't run more than 65 or 70. I wish you and I could sit and talk to explain that your concerns are legit and that some of them could maybe change while others can't. Things can only change when done in a calm and respectful manner. Cursing, wishing harm on others, screaming, etc. doesn't accomplish anything.

safenut

Greencastle, PA

#30 Jul 22, 2008
Digger69 wrote:
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Think about It is better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
Excellent quote!
was one of my mom's favorites, thanks for jogging my memory.
wannabe

Greencastle, PA

#31 Jul 22, 2008
ustaxpayer wrote:
Where are the State Police? I never troopers patroling 83. Speeding, tailgating, clearly aggressive drivers, unsafe lane changes. Your tax dollars NOT working.
What?
Do you think the police are stupid?
They know where not to be when.
Dale

New Egypt, NJ

#32 Jul 22, 2008
Digger uses this quote everyday, but still cannot construct a decent sentence. Which proves without a doubt his lack of intelligence. If one has nothing intelligtent to say, make fun of it. Sure sign of stupidity.
heart broken

Carlisle, PA

#33 Jul 22, 2008
Everyone needs to always remember something. When you get into a vehicle, it is a death trap. You wouldn't let your family in a lions den without taking caution. Making sure there is a cage to keep the lion in. Thats what everyone needs to be thinking of when you set out for work, school, or any type of road trip. Always look out for that other person. But I will agree there are alot of truck drivers that do think they own the road. All you truck drivers need to THINK!!! It could be your family or loved ones in front of you!!! How would you feel if it was one of yours being killed?
YOUS Police Rock

Gettysburg, PA

#34 Aug 23, 2008
Concerned Citizen wrote:
altlandf,
If you had a clue you would be dangerous. The area patrolled by the State Police is huge. They are responsible for not only the interstate but also every little burg that does not have its own police force. There are very few State police troopers on the road. Our illustrious Governor has seen fit to not increase the size of the force for several years. The jobs keep piling up with no more people to do them.
How would you like it if your bosses fired three people and then told you that you now have to fulfill not only tour job but their jobs also. Oh! and by the way, you are not entitled to overtime.
The point is, before you shoot off your mouth, get a few facts.
This area (83) is indeed horrible. There are so many stupid drivers in a hurry that have no clue what traffic laws are and like someone else posted, the ride in the left lane and at the last second at the split they try to push into the right lane. Very few people truly know what the little triangular sign at the on ramp means, they think you must give them a spot or if not they will just push in. Unfortunately, we will continue to see people dying senselessly in this area.
Thank you Mr. Concerned Citizen, your comments regarding the State Police and their coverage area is absolutely accurate. It is impossible for them to be everywhere all the time.
Hawkhill

Brogue, PA

#35 Aug 23, 2008
I just went northbound on I-83 this afternoon. I was in the right hand lane...doing 55-60mph, approaching the Leader Heights exit (where a fatality just occured the other day)...going up a "grade"...
Out of "nowhere" came 2...yes 2, trucks...(can't remember the exact name on them)they were some type of environmental disposal trucks....in the LEFT lane...cut across in front of me, going like bats out of hell, to get to the Leader Hts exit ramp....then slammed on their brakes because the light at the end of the ramp was red.
They were CLEARLY NOT going the speed limit and obviously did not care.
I REALLY wish our "fine, exhaulted, dear, caring, concerned governor" would get his priorities in order. Quit pi***ing our tax money away on his "favorites"..and put more State Police on the road. I know these men & women are already overworked and underpaid.....
What the hell is going on in this state & country????
david

Middletown, PA

#36 Aug 24, 2008
This "update" seems to be the same article from July; the update should have stated that the driver was asleep coming up that hill at 7am on his trip from Baltimore.

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