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Trial on hold for boy charged in shotgun death

There are 51 comments on the PittsburghLive.com story from Nov 24, 2011, titled Trial on hold for boy charged in shotgun death. In it, PittsburghLive.com reports that:

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Politically Incorrect

Russellton, PA

#1 Nov 24, 2011
I'm SO damned tired of hearing about poor little Jordan's rehabilitation, and poor little Jordan, this and poor little Jordan that! It's a damned shame he didn't give his victims, one of them his unborn brother, consideration, before he fired that gun. I despise defense atty's who argue that a person they KNOW KILLED SOMEONE (Wait! That encompasses ALL of them, pretty much...speaking from my own experience), and NOT in self defense. No one cares a damn about the victims...they haven't for decades. But then again, I don't suppose Kenzie and Christopher suffered, the way the defense and some of the judges are portraying that poor little Jordan Brown has (SARCASM!!).

I realize that hie father doesn't want to see him punished for this. I doubt that he punished him for much at all, in the years prior to his KILLING Kenzie and his brother. I'd be ashamed. It isn't like he'll be in jail, forever, like Kenzie 'n Christopher will be DEAD< FOREVER!! Shame on our court system!!!!!!!!

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#3 Nov 29, 2011
Tell me why this child should get a second chance at life??? Does Kenzie??? Christopher didn't even get a chance at life cause Jordon Brown MURDERED them in cold blood! This boy should be trailed as an adult period. Our court system is a complete joke anymore
Yea let him out when he is 21 and when something he is not happy with or jealous over someone, he can kill them too cause after all what punishment did he receive for murdering two people? I don't think the child ever receive any kind of punishment in his life!
Any child that has a gun and knows how to shoot guns know what guns can do, cause believe me if you teach your child how to shoot guns you teach them what harm can be done. So this child knew what he was doing when he went and picked up the gun loaded it and walked to her room. then go put it back get ready and go to school like nothing ever happened that is a evil boy! So you tell me if you think that Jordon Brown should spend the rest of his life in jail? Our court system should hang their heads in shame!!!!!!

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#4 Nov 30, 2011
This has turned into a real side show, our court system needs to change. This young man will be able to retire when this goes to trial. The people responsible should be ashamed and WHATEVER HAPPENED TO A TIMELY AND SPEEDY TRIAL???
intheknow

Pittsburgh, PA

#5 Dec 2, 2011
Too many inconsistencies... A shotgun blast isn't enough to wake anyone else in the house or the neighbors, but a little girls screaming can be heard at the neighbor's clear as day? A shotgun blast at close range, even with birdshot, would explode her head like a soup can, yet they had an open casket funeral. There is no such things as a silenced shotgun blast, and no, a pillow won't change anything. Blood would be everywhere, and all over him. I doubt he just turned around and got on the school bus like nothing happened, taking a life changes people, just ask a veteran...

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Pittsburgh, PA

#6 Jan 21, 2012
He has showed NO remorse, if he committed the crime, neither has he shown any emotion, one would express at the life of even someone he disliked, being slain in the house he called his home...maybe being in the house himself, while the killer lurked...waiting his chance to end Kenzie's life. Wouldn't that phase a person, even a smidgeon? It would phase me, knowing I was that close to perhaps having my life ended too. Now, I s'pose you're gonna argue that he wasn't mature enough then, nor is he yet, to realize what he could have walked in on.

IF the investigators paid attention to the footprints in the newly fallen snow, they'll be able to tell if it was an adult man, or an 11 yo boy, who dropped that shell in the yard. Heck, even without the shell being there, they'd be able to tell what age (adult/innocent little tyke) the prints belonged to...how many sets left the house that morning, and how many entered. There's NO SUCH THING as a perfect crime...only lax/inferior investigations.

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intheknow

Pittsburgh, PA

#7 Jan 23, 2012
I don't have a horse in this race. I just think that with everything that has been released there isn't enough evidence to say it was him or anybody. The Houk family can judge my posts all they want, I don't care... I understand they're hurting, but taking it out on the most available person isn't going to help. What good is it going to do for them by Jordan going to prison? Is it going to make them feel better? Not really and not for long anyways.

Looking at things from the outside, without emotion creeping in, it's impossible. Look at all the statements given in the newspapers and by the family.

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Columbia, MO

#8 Jan 23, 2012
intheknow wrote:
Too many inconsistencies... A shotgun blast isn't enough to wake anyone else in the house or the neighbors, but a little girls screaming can be heard at the neighbor's clear as day? A shotgun blast at close range, even with birdshot, would explode her head like a soup can, yet they had an open casket funeral. There is no such things as a silenced shotgun blast, and no, a pillow won't change anything. Blood would be everywhere, and all over him. I doubt he just turned around and got on the school bus like nothing happened, taking a life changes people, just ask a veteran...
this is so true how would no one hear the shot fired and he wouldent just get on the school bus that is insane there pinning this on the easiest suspect im not saying the boy dident do it but come on people

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Columbia, MO

#9 Jan 23, 2012
wait i just read more do any of you think a 11 year old boy could kill someone and get on the bus and act like nothing happend the artcie says nothingg about weather he is inocent or not just that his trial is yet to come

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Columbia, MO

#10 Jan 23, 2012
and think even if it was him he was 11 you cant try an 11 year old as an adult that is why there is the part in the law were the tryed as a minor if he did than i say he wasent in his right mind or that he was to young to think it through you all dicust me that you this easally blame a little boy a boy not a man he does not need to be in prison with men

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Pittsburgh, PA

#11 Jan 23, 2012
I didn't say he belongs in prison with adults. I'm all for him staying where he is, then moved to an adult jail at the age of 18...or is that STILL too young? And yes, one of the early articles said the snow had just fallen that night. There were many more than one lone article.
jfk

East Liverpool, OH

#12 Jan 23, 2012
intheknow wrote:
I don't have a horse in this race. I just think that with everything that has been released there isn't enough evidence to say it was him or anybody. The Houk family can judge my posts all they want, I don't care... I understand they're hurting, but taking it out on the most available person isn't going to help. What good is it going to do for them by Jordan going to prison? Is it going to make them feel better? Not really and not for long anyways.
Looking at things from the outside, without emotion creeping in, it's impossible. Look at all the statements given in the newspapers and by the family.
Apparently, not everything HAS been released--there is certainly enough evidence (both public and not known to public yet) to hold him for close to 3 years now! And WHY do you think the Houks are judging your posts--they made it known long ago that they aren't following or commenting on any of these blogs due to the horrific and hurtful things people have said about their family and their daughter. Do you honestly think it is just the Houks that want justice served? There are a lot of people that agree with the evidence that he is guilty and needs to be punished. Also, if one were to apply your logic to other circumstances--does it do anyone any good to put other killers behind bars? How about Manson, or Gacy, or Bundy, or any other dangers to society--do you feel that they should have gone free since the "damage was done already"? Did their imprisonment make anyone 'feel better"? And the fact that he did jump on the bus without batting an eyelash after the fact makes him even more scary and dangerous--the textbook definition of a sociopath if not psychopath

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East Liverpool, OH

#13 Jan 23, 2012
agree wrote:
and think even if it was him he was 11 you cant try an 11 year old as an adult that is why there is the part in the law were the tryed as a minor if he did than i say he wasent in his right mind or that he was to young to think it through you all dicust me that you this easally blame a little boy a boy not a man he does not need to be in prison with men
perhaps you wouldn't be so "dicusted" if you learned to do a little research prior to sticking your foot in your mouth. Try the g-o-o-g-l-e search feature on your computer (along with the spell-check) and you just might learn a little something about the subject that you are ranting on about.
wouldnt want to be ya

AOL

#14 Jan 23, 2012
Perhaps it was a VERY botched investigation. You seem to have stuck your foot in your mouth. He doesn't even fit the profile of a sociopath or psychopath.

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#15 Jan 26, 2012
wouldnt want to be ya wrote:
Perhaps it was a VERY botched investigation. You seem to have stuck your foot in your mouth. He doesn't even fit the profile of a sociopath or psychopath.
Have YOU ever tried that google feature? Here is a part of the Wikipedia definItion (remember, he is young--givehim a few years to fulfill the rest).
""Psychopathy (/sa&#618;&#712;k& #594;p&#601;&#952;i/[1 ][2]) is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for, or violation of, the rights of others. It is defined in different ways, but can involve a lack of empathy or remorse, shallow emotions, selfishness, grandiosity or deceptiveness; it can also involve impulsiveness, irritability, aggression, or recklessness.""
Sure sounds like someone that can hop on the schoolbus without a second thought to me! He was known to have issues with the former spouse and family, also, so much that counseling was strongly recommended even back a few years prior to this. Smart girl to ditch that daddy, too bad Kenzie couldn't have found this out and "dodged the bullet", also!

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Pittsburgh, PA

#16 Jan 26, 2012
There are friends and family who are determined to believe he couldn't have done such a horrible thing...just as some of we who see his guilt, would do, if he were our child. The inner reason for that, is their association with him. It's better to be associated with a shy, somewhat backward kid who has walked thru fire, and been supported by all who are related to him, or even associated with him...than to be the same, in regard to a killer.

People who know this boy, have seen his personality...and have ignored it. They know, deep within themselves, that he is pretty much as the professionals have described him. It's all about saving face.
intheknow

Pittsburgh, PA

#17 Jan 27, 2012
jfk wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently, not everything HAS been released--there is certainly enough evidence (both public and not known to public yet) to hold him for close to 3 years now! And WHY do you think the Houks are judging your posts--they made it known long ago that they aren't following or commenting on any of these blogs due to the horrific and hurtful things people have said about their family and their daughter. Do you honestly think it is just the Houks that want justice served? There are a lot of people that agree with the evidence that he is guilty and needs to be punished. Also, if one were to apply your logic to other circumstances--does it do anyone any good to put other killers behind bars? How about Manson, or Gacy, or Bundy, or any other dangers to society--do you feel that they should have gone free since the "damage was done already"? Did their imprisonment make anyone 'feel better"? And the fact that he did jump on the bus without batting an eyelash after the fact makes him even more scary and dangerous--the textbook definition of a sociopath if not psychopath
You take a kid accused of murder and compare him to adult serial killers? What evidence says he is guilty? Go ahead and tell me. The kid is an easy target, plain and simple. He could've done it, I don't know, but I don't see a dang thing that says it's him. People are letting emotion, not facts, drive their opinion on innocence or guilt. Take the emotion out of the picture and just look at the FACTS...

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New Castle, PA

#18 Jan 31, 2012
intheknow wrote:
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You take a kid accused of murder and compare him to adult serial killers? What evidence says he is guilty? Go ahead and tell me. The kid is an easy target, plain and simple. He could've done it, I don't know, but I don't see a dang thing that says it's him. People are letting emotion, not facts, drive their opinion on innocence or guilt. Take the emotion out of the picture and just look at the FACTS...
Are you sure there isn't evidence???
Politically Incorrect

Pittsburgh, PA

#19 Feb 1, 2012
People who have an emotional interest in a case like this one, ex: family and friends, can easily deny the evidence before them. There's nothing wrong with that, ino. The mind is a complex thing. Survival depends on denial, sometimes...but to call those of us who are removed from the emotional, names, etc, is wrong. I don't think I have looked at this case with blinders on. I don't want the kid to be punished for something he didn't do. For one reason, if that happens, a true murderer walks free.
RIGHT HERE

New Castle, PA

#20 Feb 1, 2012
I think since it is in Juvenile court now, by the time they try him, if he is found guilty, he will get time served! This process is taking so long has to be exhausting for both sides of this ordeal. My heart goes out to them all
wow

Columbia, MO

#21 Feb 1, 2012
what are the fathers comments

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