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Dismissal Sought In Murder Case Of Pa. Boy, 11

There are 132 comments on the Kdka.com story from Aug 27, 2009, titled Dismissal Sought In Murder Case Of Pa. Boy, 11. In it, Kdka.com reports that:

Share + Aug 26, 2009 9:29 pm US/Eastern NEW CASTLE, Pa. Attorneys for an 11-year-old western Pennsylvania boy accused of fatally shooting his father's pregnant fiancee are again asking a judge to dismiss key evidence.

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#121 Apr 28, 2012
STICKS AND STONES wrote:
There are many mentally ill people walking about the world. Sometimes they are people that just are sitting around calling everyone else mentally ill. A psychopath could be someone who lies, cheats,deals drugs,(which by the way very much "kills" a person and their family), takes drugs, takes what does not belong to them, yet still feels "everyone" else is mentally ill and their behavior is fine. It could be a person who feels "everyone" thinks like them or someone who thinks a "child" is an adult.
It is a tragedy certainly no person should ever have to experience. Terribly sad but I will never agree with the manner in which you talk about a child. It is an open forum. We are all free to speak freely.
Now your saying the child has to pay for everyone's statements. In actuality your are wishing it. This is where you sicken me. I will never agree with the public persecution of a child, no matter what happened. You cannot shame me for being compassionate for a child. You cannot use Bible quotes to try to make me feel my thinking is wrong. God is better than this. He holds compassion to such a high standard, you obviously do not understand.
Many comments recently after the news articles expressed concerns for the child. It is all sad but many people do not want to persecute a child with you, nor do we have to sit and be silent when you do. So please quite trying to say people are cruel. People have compassion for the victims, the family, and yes, Jordan. Everyone knows an unwed mother, a welfare recipient,and people of many races. Your still trying to anger people but they are smarter than this. Your even trying to say he is not getting what he deserves. No matter what you say, he is a child.
Pray for your healing, the healing of a child, families that have been through hell these past years, and do it with an honest heart. It will come.
Quote from the Houk website-if it weren't true, I'm quite sure it would have been legally removed by now: ""Jordan was a bully. Several letters from parents whose children went to school with Jordan has witnessed his behavior. Jordan was cutting off cats and dogs heads of the neighbors at a trailor park. He was throwing wet sponges at people he never knew. Jordan threw down a student's pictures on a school bus, and stepped all over them. This is just a few things that he has done, there is much more. Jordan never took blame for his actions. His teacher at the Erie facility says this in her report. She also states, "he has no remorse." This is in the Court Transcripts""
And I do believe that all of the bigoted remarks you all have made against so many people in society WILL affect him-never said I wished it on him, just that YOU and your kind have caused a lot of anger from the very people he will be incarcerated with. YOUR remarks against those in society that you all feel deserved what happened. The remarks were revolting when you all made them, still are, and these things don't go away. YOU and the others showed no compassion when you made the hateful comments that you did, so you will share in the blame of any retaliation that he might go through.
STICKS AND STONES

Elyria, OH

#122 Apr 28, 2012
Again your trying to accuse me of something I did not do. Your doing this to try to promote anger and it is wrong. You need to stop. You really need to stop lying and trying to say something totally and completely untrue of me, as well as a child. I have spent countless hours caring for unwed, welfare, homeless, drug inflicted, abused children, elderly, sickly, and incarcerated persons. I do not judge anyone and I am simply saying, I do not like how you people talk about a child. No matter what happened.

Your trying to cause a "revolt" but people are smarter than this. They understand a person can have compassion for multiple people all at the same time. You keep wishing for bad things to happen, nothing can change you. I won't sit back.

The real truth is, YOU people have been promoting all the negative talk all along. No one has to sit back and agree with you. That does not mean people do not feel compassion, it simply means we do not agree with how you promote trouble. You have caused, with your own words, people to speak negatively towards you. You have extinguished compassion at a certain level with you own words.

What I really want to understand is, the day that verdict was about to be announced, you made a point to pray in a circle for the newspapers to acknowledge. Was that real? How can you come on here after you got what you wanted and still try to cause problems? How can you spout out all your evil thoughts and not expect that YOU are offensive to others?

Like I said before. Your got your verdict. Move on. We are.
Not Easily Forgotten

Jersey City, NJ

#123 Apr 29, 2012
Loved ones try to soldier on day by day. But two bodies lie moldering in a cemetary. Your admonishment to move on is callous . Let them rage and grieve as you would if the child murderer destroyed your hopes and dreams.

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#124 Apr 29, 2012
REPLY TO "STICKS AND STONES"::
Well, as I've told you countless times, I am unrelated, & was not involved in the prayer circle. Now, although I've only included 2 of your hundreds of posts re: this situation (from this thread only-you've been a lot more hateful under your many other alias's on some of the other threads), you might recall A FEW of the awful comments you all have made against:unwed moms, welfare recipients, bikers, marines, blacks, anyone with a record, etc. Even worse statements from Dailey that you all back up and report as gospel. I'm not stretching this--it is fact, and anyone can look up any of it just by searching this site-although you use different names constantly, it is obvious who is writing.
2 examples::
Jordan should be free
Youngstown, OH
#47
Oct 3, 2009
""Ignorant people. What you see is not what you get all the time. My wish to all of you: That your perfect children grow up and have multiple sex partners and multiple children with them. That they may lie to their lovers and collect child support from men who are not the biological fathers. That they may have children and give them bombs, and knives, and place them in a changed environment with siblings that call their father, daddy. That they may be forced to live with a strange woman who's belly is growing with a alien they are afraid to meet. Finally, that they may get some great guns as gifts, to try to ease their sorrow of being tossed in a whirlwind with no real warning. And that their guns scream out to them, "I CAN SOLVE ALL YOUR PROBLEMS", when no adult around cares to F___ en listen! It only takes a fraction of a section to act on impulse. A child this age acts on impulse. This boy needs an alternative program and he needs to be home with his dad and mom needs to work back in. Go suck an egg, a__holes.""
Mary
Youngstown, OH
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Oct 8, 2009
""Yes, you are right, we cannot make excuses, we must just go by the facts here. The fact is that the victim (God rest her soul) had two children, from two men. This baby that passed (God rest his soul) makes three men. She was all of 26 yrs old. One can assume she would know right from wrong by now. This little boy had to move from his home to a home with her and her two children in a very short time. The fact is the victim met the boy's father and got pregnant it appears within the month they met. This little boy had a good relationship with his dad and now had to adjust to a whole family with no say in it. The fact is any child would take a good woman in his heart. What happened? The fact is a good woman would make sure a little boy was comfortable with the situation beforehand, but that was out right from the get go. The fact is young people today think nothing about having multiple children with different men and they think nothing about making good choices to teach their children how to deal with life in a responsible manner. The victim was very young and likely may have put her children ahead of this little boy instead of giving this little boy the extra attention a responsible, patient, and compassionate person would do in this situation. After all, the fact is she was the adult there. The fact is the victim had children in the home and was not responsible enough to locked up guns. The fact is a good woman who puts their children first, gets up in the morning and makes sure they eat a good breakfast, have clean clothes on, and wash their faces and brush their hair, before they go off to school. And don't hand me the "she was pregnant and tired line". We've all been there.
The fact is this little boy is a child who was put in a trashy situation and has to learn life the hard way because of an irresponsible young woman who had to get knocked up to land a guy. Your the piece of trash here. Ass___.""
STICKS AND STONES

Elyria, OH

#125 Apr 29, 2012
Seriously...It appears Mary was passionately responding to you and your nauseating statements....

Like this one...

Gas chamber

Mckeesport, PA

Oct 8, 2009

He is a murdered, a lost cause, a piece of trash.

Quit making excuses for him, that is the problem - everything is always someone else's fault.

This kid was a hunter, he knew pulling the trigger would kill this woman. He was jealous that she was getting the attention of his father.

He MURDERED her and an unborn child while she slept.

He should be executed, or put in prison for life.

He is a monster and a murder.

..........

Now my response to you...

Like I said before, YOU people started all the negative talk. YOU provoke people to talk to your level. This has been your method for a long time.
STICKS AND STONES

Elyria, OH

#126 Apr 29, 2012
Just for the record. I have a good friend, unwed. She married the father of one of her children, it didn't last long. Few years later, she got pregnant with a guy she was dating. They never married. Both fathers pay child support. Both are actively fathering their children, as they should. My friend works full time. Last I heard she was making $80,000.00 (no college degree).

I have another friend that left an abusive relationship. She has three school-aged children. She is on welfare, looking for work. He is in prison for the abuse on her and the youngest child.

I have numerous friends in the marines. One very close family friend who has honors from his service in the Marines. I have many family members that are veterans of WWII. A couple with purple hearts.

I have many, many, black friends. I see no color, only people I love.

I use to ride with a friend who had a Harley. I have "biker" friends. They love bikes. I have had a couple friends die on them, so the older I get, the more fearful I am of trusting other drivers.

I have a couple friends in prison due to crimes they committed while addicted to drugs. Many a good people have gone to prison and they don't deserve "life-time" labels.

Finally, I don't believe that an unwed woman, a person who is a biker, a marine, a person who was incarcerated, or a welfare recipient, deserves to be labeled. Everyone has a different character. Unfortunately, all the mudslinging pushed people to look at the character of the deceased and question it, just as people questioned the accused and their family.

Too ugly on here. Brings out the ugly in me.
Tears

Newark, NJ

#127 Apr 30, 2012
It is the ugly from you and the other simpering apologists that baffle me and others. For example, Wander's recent incredible blog: "Victims oh Really? And, "Put aside the cruel nature of family and freinds", kind of puts your murderer as victim theme as being lame in comparison. Having read your posts from the beginning, your attempts to show yourself as being something other than a victim blamer is laughable. Most sane people will continue to argue with you after they read here. The innocence and purity of "the child"blather will continue to be counteracted by people who know the reality that "the child" is in fact inherently evil and a self absorbed malcontent.
Disgusted

East Liverpool, OH

#128 Apr 30, 2012
criminal minds wrote:
<quoted text>Quote from the Houk website-if it weren't true, I'm quite sure it would have been legally removed by now: ""Jordan was a bully. Several letters from parents whose children went to school with Jordan has witnessed his behavior. Jordan was cutting off cats and dogs heads of the neighbors at a trailor park. He was throwing wet sponges at people he never knew. Jordan threw down a student's pictures on a school bus, and stepped all over them. This is just a few things that he has done, there is much more. Jordan never took blame for his actions. His teacher at the Erie facility says this in her report. She also states, "he has no remorse." This is in the Court Transcripts""
And I do believe that all of the bigoted remarks you all have made against so many people in society WILL affect him-never said I wished it on him, just that YOU and your kind have caused a lot of anger from the very people he will be incarcerated with. YOUR remarks against those in society that you all feel deserved what happened. The remarks were revolting when you all made them, still are, and these things don't go away. YOU and the others showed no compassion when you made the hateful comments that you did, so you will share in the blame of any retaliation that he might go through.
CUTTING HEADS OFF CATS AND DOGS??? Why wasn't this kid locked up long before the murder ever happened? If he acted up with this kind of behavior before he was even 11, seems like he is a serial killer waiting to happen, scary that he will be out in a few years. This is one of the danger signs that some of the worst killers in history showed.
I believe in Jordan

Toledo, OH

#129 Apr 30, 2012
I Love My Attorney –

After living what I felt was a 'decent' life, my time on earth came to the end.

The first thing I remember is sitting on a bench in the waiting room of what I thought to be a court house.

The doors opened and I was instructed to come in and have a seat by the defense table.

As I looked around I saw the 'prosecutor'.

He was a villainous looking gent who snarled as he stared at me. He definitely was the most evil person I have ever seen.

I sat down and looked to my left and there sat My Attorney, a kind and gentle looking man whose appearance seemed so familiar to me, I felt I knew Him.

The corner door opened and there appeared the Judge in full flowing robes.

He commanded an awesome presence as He moved across the room. I couldn't take my eyes off of Him.

As He took His seat behind the bench, He said,'Let us begin.'

The prosecutor rose and said,'My name is Satan and I am here to show you why this man belongs in hell.'

He proceeded to tell of lies that I told, things that I stole, and In the past when I cheated others. Satan told of other horrible perversions that were once in my life, and the more he spoke, the further down in my seat I sank.

I was so embarrassed that I couldn't look at anyone, even my own Attorney, as the Devil told of sins that even I had completely forgotten about.

As upset as I was at Satan for telling all these things about me, I was equally upset at My Attorney who sat there silently not offering any form of defense at all.

I know I had been guilty of those things, but I had done some good in my life - couldn't that at least equal out part of the harm I'd done?

Satan finished with a fury and said,'This man belongs in hell, he is guilty of all that I have charged and there is not a person who can prove otherwise.'

When it was His turn, My Attorney first asked if He might approach the bench. The Judge allowed this over the strong objection of Satan, and beckoned Him to come forward.

As He got up and started walking, I was able to see Him in His full splendor and majesty.

I realized why He seemed so familiar; this was Jesus representing me, my Lord and my Savior.

He stopped at the bench and softly said to the Judge,'HI, DAD,' and then He turned to address the court.

'Satan was correct in saying that this man had sinned, I won't deny any of these allegations. And, yes, the wage of sin is death, and this man deserves to be punished.'

Jesus took a deep breath and turned to His Father with outstretched arms and proclaimed,'However, I died on the cross so that this person might have eternal life and he has accepted Me as his Savior, so he is Mine.'

My Lord continued with,'His name is written in the Book of Life, and no one can snatch him from Me. Satan still does not understand yet. This man is not to be given justice, but rather mercy.'

As Jesus sat down, He quietly paused, looked at His Father and said,'There is nothing else that needs to be done. I've done it all..'

The Judge lifted His mighty hand and slammed the gavel down. The following words bellowed from His lips.....

'This man is free. The penalty for him has already been paid in full. Case dismissed.'

I asked Jesus as He gave me my instructions where to go next,'Have you ever lost a case?'

Christ lovingly smiled and said,'Everyone that has come to Me and asked Me to represent them has received the same verdict as you,~Paid In Full.'

'Stop telling God how big your storm is. Instead, tell the storm how big your God is!'












Tears

Newark, NJ

#130 Apr 30, 2012
Well! An impressive attempt to bible blast a suggestion to forgive a homicidal maniac. Karma, the universal scale will even the score. For all of us.

Since: Feb 10

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#131 Apr 30, 2012
I believe in Jordan wrote:
I Love My Attorney –
After living what I felt was a 'decent' life, my time on earth came to the end.
The first thing I remember is sitting on a bench in the waiting room of what I thought to be a court house.
The doors opened and I was instructed to come in and have a seat by the defense table.
As I looked around I saw the 'prosecutor'.
He was a villainous looking gent who snarled as he stared at me. He definitely was the most evil person I have ever seen.
I sat down and looked to my left and there sat My Attorney, a kind and gentle looking man whose appearance seemed so familiar to me, I felt I knew Him.
The corner door opened and there appeared the Judge in full flowing robes.
He commanded an awesome presence as He moved across the room. I couldn't take my eyes off of Him.
As He took His seat behind the bench, He said,'Let us begin.'
The prosecutor rose and said,'My name is Satan and I am here to show you why this man belongs in hell.'
He proceeded to tell of lies that I told, things that I stole, and In the past when I cheated others. Satan told of other horrible perversions that were once in my life, and the more he spoke, the further down in my seat I sank.
I was so embarrassed that I couldn't look at anyone, even my own Attorney, as the Devil told of sins that even I had completely forgotten about.
As upset as I was at Satan for telling all these things about me, I was equally upset at My Attorney who sat there silently not offering any form of defense at all.
I know I had been guilty of those things, but I had done some good in my life - couldn't that at least equal out part of the harm I'd done?
Satan finished with a fury and said,'This man belongs in hell, he is guilty of all that I have charged and there is not a person who can prove otherwise.'
When it was His turn, My Attorney first asked if He might approach the bench. The Judge allowed this over the strong objection of Satan, and beckoned Him to come forward.
As He got up and started walking, I was able to see Him in His full splendor and majesty.
I realized why He seemed so familiar; this was Jesus representing me, my Lord and my Savior.
He stopped at the bench and softly said to the Judge,'HI, DAD,' and then He turned to address the court.
'Satan was correct in saying that this man had sinned, I won't deny any of these allegations. And, yes, the wage of sin is death, and this man deserves to be punished.'
Jesus took a deep breath and turned to His Father with outstretched arms and proclaimed,'However, I died on the cross so that this person might have eternal life and he has accepted Me as his Savior, so he is Mine.'
My Lord continued with,'His name is written in the Book of Life, and no one can snatch him from Me. Satan still does not understand yet. This man is not to be given justice, but rather mercy.'
As Jesus sat down, He quietly paused, looked at His Father and said,'There is nothing else that needs to be done. I've done it all..'
The Judge lifted His mighty hand and slammed the gavel down. The following words bellowed from His lips.....
'This man is free. The penalty for him has already been paid in full. Case dismissed.'
I asked Jesus as He gave me my instructions where to go next,'Have you ever lost a case?'
Christ lovingly smiled and said,'Everyone that has come to Me and asked Me to represent them has received the same verdict as you,~Paid In Full.'
'Stop telling God how big your storm is. Instead, tell the storm how big your God is!'
The fact that you have failed to mention in your little "facebook forward" is that before the prisoner accepted Christ as his savior and received Eternal salvation, he FIRST had to ask forgiveness and repent. That has been the issue here all along.
STICKS AND STONES

Elyria, OH

#132 Apr 30, 2012
The point was....

YOU TOO WILL BE JUDGED.

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