Area leaders meet to start tackling gang problem

There are 20 comments on the Mar 6, 2009, Stamford Advocate story titled Area leaders meet to start tackling gang problem. In it, Stamford Advocate reports that:

After hearing from law enforcement experts about the sophisticated ways that gang members communicate -- through MySpace, graffiti and prison visitors -- Stamford's Assistant Superintendent of Schools Eileen ...

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Travis the Chimp

Lebanon, CT

#1 Mar 7, 2009
I can teach a class on manners to these kids....Where do I sign up ?
CantHelptheStupi d

Germany

#2 Mar 7, 2009
The best way to deal with gangs is to deport the members back to their native countries of origin. Let the Congolese government and the Mexican/puerto rican governments deal with them. To bad its not 1880. Men of that era would definitely have thought to do something like that to solve the problem.
Other than that there is NOTHING you can do. People have been "doing something about gangs" for 40 years and they still exist and are getting worse.
Stamford

Stamford, CT

#3 Mar 7, 2009
Your right....why are we still having a "war on drugs" We talk & talk and nothing gets done!
CantHelptheStupid wrote:
The best way to deal with gangs is to deport the members back to their native countries of origin. Let the Congolese government and the Mexican/puerto rican governments deal with them. To bad its not 1880. Men of that era would definitely have thought to do something like that to solve the problem.
Other than that there is NOTHING you can do. People have been "doing something about gangs" for 40 years and they still exist and are getting worse.
Vox Pop

Higganum, CT

#4 Mar 7, 2009
Hello, even "good" kids are communicating in their own universes.
Note: A lot has happened since November.
The ideas at work here are good, but are neither being implemented nor adapted anywhere quickly enough to enter the stream of events, much less have an impact for the better.
here we go again

Matawan, NJ

#5 Mar 7, 2009
maybe its time to stop talking about gangs,seems when the heat is turned up in Norwalk its gangs and defense is its the parents.Our city is full of crap when it comes to dealing with problems.Northeastern back in Mass has seminars like this but they follow through weekly.Cruiser crashed, girl stabbed and 100 drunks and homeless been brought to the ER since this article.

The city should be ashamed of itself for not taking care of, listening too the residents after each shooting and the simple crime that basically goes on each night.The gangs are not nickle and diming patrons trying to use the train station,eating downtown,stealing tires off of cars in driveways ect the gangs are selling drugs and guns.

Be nice if the police dept had someone to speak spanish most gangs speak spanish Mr mayor and if your an officer,then expect a extra 100 bucks a year extra where is the incentive.NCC teach spanish? Idiots who run these things thinking they have brainstormed some soloutions.what about teaching the officers basics.

I have idea have an airstrike using JDAM's and plenty of them.

can't find gang members go to the Lowe street bridge monday with ICE they speak spanish and arrest felons all day. Over 250 day workers are there each day warmer weather will bring more wake up Norwalk!

The city need help they need leadership the officers are fine these experts got in their cars and left the city like the rest of should until law enforcement gets help lots of help.

productive meeting yes,tell the mayor the police needs more money there goes your momnetum folks!
patrick berger

Chicago, IL

#6 Mar 9, 2009
I is cool to be in a gang.The latin kings.I am going to joen the gang.
jhon

Chicago, IL

#7 Mar 9, 2009
whats up

Since: Jan 08

Norwalk, CT

#9 Mar 9, 2009
Vox Pop wrote:
Hello, even "good" kids are communicating in their own universes.
Note: A lot has happened since November.
The ideas at work here are good, but are neither being implemented nor adapted anywhere quickly enough to enter the stream of events, much less have an impact for the better.
Unfortunately, although a lot of people are quick to voice their opinions and quick fixes, very few people from the public show up to any meetings designed to help the situation with our teens. Norwalk Neighbors Helping Teens was set up as a forum to help our kids and to strategize on ways to make a change. Even with meetings announced in the papers and on Channel 12 News, eventually the group had to put their efforts on the back burner. It takes more than a half dozen people to fix this.

People need to ACT, rather than just inject their opinions. It starts with the parents! Do you think parents of any at-risk kids showed up at the meetings? Maybe 2! Where are all the parents?
Vox Pop

Higganum, CT

#10 Mar 9, 2009
wlwshannon wrote:
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Unfortunately, although a lot of people are quick to voice their opinions and quick fixes, very few people from the public show up to any meetings designed to help the situation with our teens. Norwalk Neighbors Helping Teens was set up as a forum to help our kids and to strategize on ways to make a change. Even with meetings announced in the papers and on Channel 12 News, eventually the group had to put their efforts on the back burner. It takes more than a half dozen people to fix this.
People need to ACT, rather than just inject their opinions. It starts with the parents! Do you think parents of any at-risk kids showed up at the meetings? Maybe 2! Where are all the parents?
You sound a lot like my comments on the Mayor being unhappy with the Guardian Angels.
Of course it is going to take a grassroots effort.
What stopped all the schools and churches in town from getting the ball rolling?
What will it take to move them?
Academics and social workers are needed as well, but it's all just another idea until people get involved.

Since: Jan 08

Norwalk, CT

#11 Mar 9, 2009
Vox Pop wrote:
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You sound a lot like my comments on the Mayor being unhappy with the Guardian Angels.
Of course it is going to take a grassroots effort.
What stopped all the schools and churches in town from getting the ball rolling?
What will it take to move them?
Academics and social workers are needed as well, but it's all just another idea until people get involved.
I have no clue what it will take. NNHT had Det Perez and Lt Resnick on their side, but kept hitting a brick wall when it came time to getting citizens (PARENTS) to get involved. It's so damn frustrating.
Rowayton summer resident

Matawan, NJ

#12 Mar 9, 2009
Maybe mayor Moccia and Rillings should stop building brick walls.

NHHT was a great idea why didn't Moccia and Rillings ever back it?

The Gaurdian Angels have been in the areas of trouble and target the trouble,if they were all experts the other day they would of shown the police reports and the court reports,most of the trouble are not gang members they are adults and homeless that don't belong in Norwalk.

2 officers out of what 179 is not a very good percentage and those two don't run the department

drugs,guns and thefts fuel the crime right now and no clue why anyone is doing cartwheels over this meeting mayor Moccia and Rilling has said for years we don't have gangs and what there is unorganized neighborhood kids.

Maybe parents would help if they stop getting the runaround,lie enough and no one has any use for for the police,ignore please after people get shot and killed who is there to depend on?

I think telling us of the crime in the schools would help determine the need for help in the schools and what we all read is the schools need help without the crime reports.

Where are the numbers,there not given to the parents or the taxpayers and when it comes to the underage offenders like the 15 year old with a handgun on the south Norwalk train station platform it doesn't count as crime according to Moccia and Rillings.They are juveniles.

Tear down these walls Mr Mayor the city need your help!

What did mayor Moccia and Rillings learn at that meeting,they did go correct?Then again there was no ribbon to cut or no free drinks of food was there?

But parents are to blame for electing a jerk to run a city I do agree.
here we go again

Matawan, NJ

#13 Mar 9, 2009
"It's our hope that it's the beginning of a conversation," Seaborn said.

where has she been,the conversation has been going on for years in Norwalk yet our mayor has refused to let enforcment skills earned by some of the police officers be used.The Mayor has always leaned towards protecting the image of Norwalk over protecting its residents.

What was never brought to the forefront was the mayors against guns group Moccia belonged to.Then Rillings ran around with shot spotter simply a calamity of errors after a well liked citizen was gunned down in front of his mother new years eve last year.

Now who expects the community to embrace this mayors BS when most of us have through enough alone.

The other smokescreen is community involvment,go back and read the news clippings 9 out of ten times the public is reporting and giving detailed information,any of the other crimes from community enforcement is suppose to handle is found the next morning by the victims again they report it there just isn't enough police.

Whats the answer new leadership and more police,becuase most of the older kids at the homeless shelter and the methadone clinic parents are dead.Can't blame them now.

Most of the dynamics in Norwalk was probably not touched upon it would of admitted we are over run with illegals homeless state run facililties that need Norwalk police respose around the clock who has time for the kids and the social issues we are faced with everday in the schools and back home in front of their homes.

Where were the figures from the ER on any of the overdoses or chronic drinking enjoyed by many on south main st.

NNHT ever hear those words come out of Moccia's mouth?

Maybe Seaborn can do some homework on just Norwalk let her tell us what she sees at the homeless shelter and the streets of south Norwalk.Let her earn her credibility an then maybe some will listen.

Always a conversation never any real figures from Norwalk,but look at other cities some are weekly Norwalk is usually a year behind. Why?
art lover

Matawan, NJ

#14 Mar 10, 2009
I still don't know why Rillings dodn't run this seminar,his concern is Image why did he let the college blow it up so much and hurt Norwalk?

Rilling, who has estimated that 5 percent of Norwalk’s youth have affiliations to gangs, said Norwalk, like other communities, is experiencing juvenile crime and an increase in violent crime. The police chief said the appropriate responses are strong neighborhood watch programs and providing “opportunities for young people to channel their energies.” Bringing in the Guardian Angels, he continued, would “send the wrong message.”
“It’s going to make it sound like Norwalk is an undesirable community and it is not,” Rilling said.
westporter

Matawan, NJ

#15 Mar 18, 2009
They still tracking gangs,figure by now they would of found a few.
Vox Pop

Higganum, CT

#16 Mar 18, 2009
westporter wrote:
They still tracking gangs,figure by now they would of found a few.
You'd think.
Mr Mayor Read this

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Apr 16, 2011
2 years ago you culdn't even involve yourself it was unheard of noting a gang was in Norwalk,low level is what was said.You have failed the city your not prepared to defend the cities turf.Andy is younger doesn't have hooks in him no baggage doesn't owe anyone a favor.Is iT true you called people up and asked them why back Andy?Is this why your losing staff around you?Shame the election has to take on a new turn so late in the season.
Absolish The Fed

Brooklyn, NY

#18 Apr 16, 2011
Government's are the biggest gangs around, we have a government gang problem.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19 Apr 16, 2011
Absolish The Fed wrote:
Government's are the biggest gangs around, we have a government gang problem.
WHAT A NUTTTTTTT
Abolish The Fed

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Apr 16, 2011
Niikk wrote:
<quoted text>WHAT A NUTTTTTTT
I think it is time that you get evaluatted.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#21 Apr 16, 2011
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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I think it is time that you get evaluated.
I COULD SAY THE SAME ABOUT YOU...ALSO THE WORD IS evaluated NOT evaluatted . JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU AS ALWAYS.

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