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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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SamBee

Orlando, FL

#75462 Jul 29, 2014
Eric wrote:
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Ah, no Hugh. You have to first show that Jefferson's bill was enacted and then we'll address your other issues. And, there still was no Constitution at the time Jefferson proposed the bill. So how could Jefferson understand a document that didn't exist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_t...

In 1779, Thomas Jefferson wrote a law in Virginia which contained a punishment of castration for men who engage in sodomy, however, what was intended by Jefferson as a liberalization of the (sodomy laws) in Virginia at (that time) was rejected by the Virginia Legislature, which continued to prescribe (death) as the (maximum penalty) for the (crime of sodomy) in that state.

Eric,

Yahuah's Turah is against such acts as homosexuality why are you trying to defend what Yahuah says is an abomination punishable by death under His Turah ?

Leviticus 18:22-23

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

Precept :

Lie - Hebrew 7901 shakab shaw-kab' a primitive root; to lie down (for rest, sexual connection, decease or any other purpose):--X at all, cast down,((lover-))lay (self)(down),(make to) lie (down, down to sleep, still with), lodge, ravish, take rest, sleep, stay.

7902 shkabah shek-aw-baw' from 7901; a lying down (of dew, or for the sexual act):--X carnally, copulation, X lay, seed.

7903 shkobeth shek-o'-beth from 7901; a (sexual) lying with:--X lie.

Leviticus 20:13

13 If a man also (lie) with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Sodomite : Hebrew 6945 qadesh kaw-dashe' from 6942; a (quasi) sacred person, i.e.(technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry:-- sodomite, unclean.

Iicentious : Lacking restraint, or ignoring societal standards, particularly in sexual conduct. Disregarding accepted rules.

Origin : Latin licenti&#333;sus, from licentia (“license, freedom”)

The word Iicentious is where homosexuals and lesbians got the concept of sexual freedom from.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#75463 Jul 29, 2014
Uzi wrote:
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and more lies about Israel by another scumbag nobody.
So, would racist Israel accept non-Jewish immigrants?

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75464 Jul 29, 2014
Uzi wrote:
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Jews go to places to build teach help and NOT TO DESTROY everything like your nazislamist friends.
What have the Jews taught the world?

Give a few examples.

Since: May 14

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#75465 Jul 29, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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So, would racist Israel accept non-Jewish immigrants?
How could Israel be racist if it does and it does.

You are the racist

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#75466 Jul 29, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
What have the Jews taught the world?
Give a few examples.
Justice
SamBee

Orlando, FL

#75467 Jul 29, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, no Hugh. You have to first show that Jefferson's bill was enacted and then we'll address your other issues. And, there still was no Constitution at the time Jefferson proposed the bill. So how could Jefferson understand a document that didn't exist.
Eric, What does Turah state of the subject on a man have sex with another man ?

Sodomite : Hebrew 6945 qadesh kaw-dashe' from 6942; a (quasi) sacred person, i.e.(technically) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious idolatry:-- sodomite, unclean.

Iicentious : Lacking restraint, or ignoring societal standards, particularly in sexual conduct. Disregarding accepted rules.

Origin : Latin licenti&#333;sus, from licentia (“license, freedom”)

The word is where homosexuals and lesbians got the concept of sexual freedom from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_t...

In 1779, Thomas Jefferson wrote a law in Virginia which contained a punishment of castration for men who engage in sodomy, however, what was intended by Jefferson as a liberalization of the sodomy laws in Virginia at that time was rejected by the Virginia Legislature, which continued to prescribe death as the maximum penalty for the crime of sodomy in that state.

Thomas Jefferson,Bill 64

http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-c...

"Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro' the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half diameter at the least."

The above is a section of Bill 64, "A Bill for Proportioning Crimes and Punishment in Cases Heretofore Capital," one of 126 bills submitted to the Virginia Assembly in 1779 by the Committee of Revisors. This committee, headed by Thomas Jefferson, worked for two years revising the colonial laws, as Virginia began making the legal transition from colony to commonwealth.

Homosexual :

noun
plural noun: homosexuals
a person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.
synonyms: gay, lesbian;

Leviticus 18

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

Precept :

Lie - Hebrew 7901 shakab shaw-kab' a primitive root; to lie down (for rest, sexual connection, decease or any other purpose):--X at all, cast down,((lover-))lay (self)(down),(make to) lie (down, down to sleep, still with), lodge, ravish, take rest, sleep, stay.

7902 shkabah shek-aw-baw' from 7901; a lying down (of dew, or for the sexual act):--X carnally, copulation, X lay, seed.

7903 shkobeth shek-o'-beth from 7901; a (sexual) lying with:--X lie.

Leviticus 20:13

13 If a man also (lie) with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75468 Jul 29, 2014
SamBee wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_t...
In 1779, Thomas Jefferson wrote a law in Virginia which contained a punishment of castration for men who engage in sodomy, however, what was intended by Jefferson as a liberalization of the (sodomy laws) in Virginia at (that time) was rejected by the Virginia Legislature, which continued to prescribe (death) as the (maximum penalty) for the (crime of sodomy) in that state.

yada yada yada
Sambee

Works for me. You verified what I told Hugh and what I posted from another source--the bill did not pass.

Now as to the rest, why can't I accept a person as a person, allow them shelter and sustenance, and permit them privacy but not go farther?

Is it your position that these people and children of G-d should be killed or castrated or imprisoned? Should they be denied jobs? Should they be denied housing?

It wasn't long ago that my people were killed, castrated and imprisoned. They were denied housing and jobs. And, I dare say that it wasn't long ago when the same happened to your people. My people and your people fought together in the 1960's for the right of everyone to be equal--have jobs, housing, vote, access to amenities, marry whomever they loved, etc. It was just 50 years ago last month that Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner were killed fighting for civil rights for all. But now you want to deny similar rights to another group of people? How short your memory. And on top of it, your people are still waging the battle in many places. But you find it ok to treat others in a way that you don't want to be treated?

Remember, that Jewish rabbi in the 1st century CE said the second most important commandment was to love your neighbor as yourself. What's also interesting is out of all the things he said, he never mentioned homosexuality once. He is known for telling people not to judge one another. You need to listen to the Jewish rabbi more.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75469 Jul 29, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hi brain-dead demon worshiper,
Try passing the IIT JEE as I did and then talk to me, OK?
That's right, human sponge. And, what have you done with it? What have you accomplished? You continue to supp off the teat of your dead parents.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75470 Jul 29, 2014
scirocco wrote:
<quoted text>

Justice
LMFAO

Since: May 14

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#75471 Jul 29, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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LMFAO
Is that your best shot?

Dance Clown
SamBee

Orlando, FL

#75472 Jul 29, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Sambee
Works for me. You verified what I told Hugh and what I posted from another source--the bill did not pass.
Now as to the rest, why can't I accept a person as a person, allow them shelter and sustenance, and permit them privacy but not go farther?
Is it your position that these people and children of G-d should be killed or castrated or imprisoned? Should they be denied jobs? Should they be denied housing?
It wasn't long ago that my people were killed, castrated and imprisoned. They were denied housing and jobs. And, I dare say that it wasn't long ago when the same happened to your people. My people and your people fought together in the 1960's for the right of everyone to be equal--have jobs, housing, vote, access to amenities, marry whomever they loved, etc. It was just 50 years ago last month that Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner were killed fighting for civil rights for all. But now you want to deny similar rights to another group of people? How short your memory. And on top of it, your people are still waging the battle in many places. But you find it ok to treat others in a way that you don't want to be treated?
Remember, that Jewish rabbi in the 1st century CE said the second most important commandment was to love your neighbor as yourself. What's also interesting is out of all the things he said, he never mentioned homosexuality once. He is known for telling people not to judge one another. You need to listen to the Jewish rabbi more.
My position is Turah, What does Turah state Eric ? It is Yahuah that will kill these sodomites.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75473 Jul 29, 2014
SamBee wrote:
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My position is Turah, What does Turah state Eric ? It is [--] that will kill these sodomites.
You see, I can understand that interpretation. I can't understand an interpretation that takes matters in your own hands by which you want to deny these people basic human rights that your people fought for not so long ago. I don't know how old you are, but I remember when some argued that living with African Americans was contrary to the Bible. They would spew their garbage chapter and verse.

Again, the Jewish rabbi said not to judge. So if you interpretation is that you disapprove but will leave it up to G-d, fine with me.
SamBee

Orlando, FL

#75476 Jul 29, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>

I can't understand an interpretation that takes matters in your own hands by which you want to deny these people basic human rights
Quote me in any of my post saying, I want to deny homosexuals of their rights ? What I did was showed that it is a unnatural behavior not approved of by the Most High, Your fighting against Yahuah and His Turah not my words Eric their Yahuah's.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75477 Jul 29, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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How could Israel be racist if it does and it does.
You are the racist
Joel, the Jew-----So, would racist Israel accept non-Jewish immigrants?

Sci-----How could Israel be racist if it does and it does.You are the racist

HughBe--- "I think Israel in 2014 made a decision that it prefers to be a RACIST apartheid state and not a democracy," -

The above are the words of an Israeli professor and history, Ilan Pappé.

http://mwcnews.net/focus/analysis/43926-profe...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75478 Jul 29, 2014
"A good Jew hates Arabs
HATRED of Arabs is part of the TEST of loyalty and identity that the STATE gives its Jewish citizens - a loyal Israeli will leave an Arab to die, because 'he's an Arab.'"

"Israeli "literature" promoting hate of Arabs predates the occupation. The children's book series "Danidin" by Shraga Gafni is full of expressions and illustrations that laid excellent infrastructure for Arab-hatred. The "Mikraot Yisrael" (Israeli Readers ) series, which helped educate hundreds of thousands of Israeli children, is striking in terms of the "incitement" concealed within it."

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/a-good-jew-hat...

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#75479 Jul 30, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Joel, the Jew-----So, would racist Israel accept non-Jewish immigrants?
Sci-----How could Israel be racist if it does and it does.You are the racist
HughBe--- "I think Israel in 2014 made a decision that it prefers to be a RACIST apartheid state and not a democracy," -
The above are the words of an Israeli professor and history, Ilan Pappé.
http://mwcnews.net/focus/analysis/43926-profe...
Paape? hahahahahahaha

The Liar ( Ilan Pappe) as Hero

At best, Ilan Pappe must be one of the world’s sloppiest historians; at worst, one of the most dishonest. In truth, he probably merits a place somewhere between the two.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/books/maga...

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75480 Jul 30, 2014
I'd better brush up on my krava maga skills just in case HUGH decides to pounce on me when we meet. LOL.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75481 Jul 30, 2014
Are NOAM CHOMSKY, ISRAEL SHAMIR, HENRY KISSINGER, HENRY MAKOW and other prominent ex-Jews also liars when they routinely speak out against Israel's racist policies and the bigotry of the Jews? LMAO.

Since: May 14

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#75482 Jul 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Are NOAM CHOMSKY, ISRAEL SHAMIR, HENRY KISSINGER, HENRY MAKOW and other prominent ex-Jews also liars when they routinely speak out against Israel's racist policies and the bigotry of the Jews? LMAO.
The answer is yes, they are self hating Jews.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75483 Jul 30, 2014
Demon-worshipper !

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