Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73718 May 22, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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why bother? I havent seen anything worth while responding to lately
Thanks for responding.

I just wanted to know if you're ok.

Keep checking this thread.

I think Former should be back soon.

Take care.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#73720 May 23, 2014
PARTICULAR & GENERAL:

1) The particular leads to the general.

2) As such the particular is related to the general or in other words the particular is an aspect of the general.

3) Each aspect no matter how much it differs from the other aspects in surface characteristics is at its core the same in the essence as the core of the other aspects thus making each aspect of existence a holon.

4) The cosmic manifestation is constituted of n number of holon each in different evolutionary stages of surface activation thereby making each class of holons appear different from the other classes of the same.

5) To manifest any aspect, or, in others words, to manifest any particular, the superior information content and the higher energy level of the general would be needed. So, this necessity of bringing the general into the picture if an aspect or a particular belonging to it is needed to be manifested in an activated sense thus makes it impossible for most natural aspects to be reproduced or created from scratch in the lab - a living cell, a sentient organism, mind, singularity, vacuum state, hydrogen atom, a tree, a star and other significant aspects of existence cannot be created from scratch in any lab. As for life, well, life, being an aspect of consciousness, is ingrained in cosmic energy as a naturally existing fact. As a result, any attempt, as for instance, to create life from scratch is bound to fail since the general principle of life with its innate information content, its native sentience and requisite degree of energy would be required to manifest life in chemicals even if they happen to be the right mix of chemicals. Just having the correct mixture of chemicals will not make it a living cocktail since what would be absent in the chemical concoction is the presence of the general principle of life whose activated presence is absolutely essential to bring to life the mixture of assembled chemical molecules.

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#73721 May 23, 2014
http://www.jta.org/2014/04/10/news-opinion/un...

A new survey of medical data going back more than two decades has found that the health benefits of circumcision far outweigh the risks. The publication of the article on April 4 by the medical journal Mayo Clinic Proceedings is the latest development to tip the scales in favor of circumcision in the long-running scientific, cultural and political struggles over the practice.

Some say this series of blows has damaged the efforts of American anti-circumcision activists.

“They’re in disarray. They used to be very organized, raising money and so forth,” said Edgar Schoen, a clinical professor emeritus of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco, and a longtime champion of the medical benefits of circumcision.“People don’t listen to them that much anymore.”

The authors of the new survey reviewed some 3,000 studies on male circumcision published since 1988 and found evidence indicating that circumcision significantly reduced the chances of contracting a number of diseases, including urinary tract infections, human papillomavirus and HIV.
“When considered together with ethical and human rights arguments, neonatal circumcision should logically be strongly supported and encouraged as an important evidence-based intervention akin to childhood vaccination,” wrote authors Brian Morris, Stefan Bailis and Thomas Wiswell.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73722 May 23, 2014
ARE THERE ILL-EFFECTS OF CIRCUMCISION?

1) Circumcision dates back to the Babylonian cultures of the ME that predate Judaism.

2) While circumcision supposedly confers certain health benefits like it is said to lower (not completely eliminate) the incidence of contracting certain diseases like urinary tract infections, human papilloma virus and HIV, it only means, on the other hand, that unsafe sexual acts or lack of penile hygiene were not adhered to by the uncircumcised persons who fell prey to the disease condition.

3) Anyway, not all uncircumcised persons contract these diseases even if they practice unsafe sex and/or do not adhere to basic hygiene.

4) Now, what is missing in the health reports is the ill-effects of circumcision such as the high risk of catching infections after genital mutilation, bleeding to death or high loss of blood of the infant and most importantly the damaging effects of the chopping off of the foreskin that leads to the destruction of thousands of sensitive nerve endings that not only could jolts the entire nervous system with the possible unbalancing of the brain centers and besides it could also lead to the lowering of sensitivity in the penile area or in related aspects of the mind-body equation.

5) I want neuroscientists to conduct in-depth studies on the electrical activity in the penile nerves and/or nervous system leading to the brain centers before and after the circumcision in order to observe the changes in the electrical activity in these nerves/brain regions and to see if they lead to the unbalancing of the nerve-brain system and its effect on functionality of the system and on behavior over the years.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73723 May 23, 2014
HIGH DEGREE OF ABNORMALITIES AMONG JEWS

Already, the incidence of insanity, numerous nerve diseases, suicide rate and homosexuality is very high in the Jewish community and so I want an unbiased and an in-depth medical study to investigate the degree of damage contributed by circumcision to the above-named long list of Jewish abnormalities.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73724 May 23, 2014
Thank God, the Jews are increasingly marrying outside the community which could result in a significant lowering of the various abnormalities (insanity, numerous nerve diseases, suicide rate and homosexuality) that are rampant in the Jewish community.

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#73725 May 23, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
ARE THERE ILL-EFFECTS OF CIRCUMCISION?

2) While circumcision supposedly confers certain health benefits like it is said to lower (not completely eliminate) the incidence of contracting certain diseases like urinary tract infections, human papilloma virus and HIV, it only means, on the other hand, that unsafe sexual acts or lack of penile hygiene were not adhered to by the uncircumcised persons who fell prey to the disease condition.
3) Anyway, not all uncircumcised persons contract these diseases even if they practice unsafe sex and/or do not adhere to basic hygiene.
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Parallels with vaccination. Vaccination does not only benefit you, but the general public as well since it reduces the availability of potential vectors which in turn reduces the repro and spread of the disease.

Ditto for the organ chomping.

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#73726 May 23, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Thank God, the Jews are increasingly marrying outside the community which could result in a significant lowering of the various abnormalities (insanity, numerous nerve diseases, suicide rate and homosexuality) that are rampant in the Jewish community.
Actually, orthodox Judaism appears to be booming. Thank Goddess.

There has always been loss from the unaffiliated and from the other movements. Thats nothing new.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73727 May 23, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Parallels with vaccination. Vaccination does not only benefit you, but the general public as well since it reduces the availability of potential vectors which in turn reduces the repro and spread of the disease.

Ditto for the organ chomping.
Yes and circumcision is damaging to the person.

I feel that unbiased scientific studies can establish the link between circumcision and destabilization of the nerve-brain system that brings in many marked ill-effects in the body and mind of the circumcised persons.

Once the deleterious effects of this barbaric practice of circumcision is official, it will easily lead to its overthrow or debunking and then sensible people can make intelligent choices and if possible do away with the damaging practice.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73728 May 23, 2014
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Actually, orthodox Judaism appears to be booming. Thank Goddess.

There has always been loss from the unaffiliated and from the other movements. Thats nothing new
Orthodox Judaism is booming on account of lack of intelligence on the part of its subscribers who tend or reproduce in larger numbers and with their demographic increase will arise more mentally ill, more suicidal, more genetically inbred and more homosexually inclined people who harbor hatred, fanaticism and ill-will towards all except their own kind.

Orthodox types usually have very low IQs and certain reports testify to this claim and they also show a very high incidence of all the typical Jewish abnormalities as listed above.

So, in the longer run, the orthodox will become susceptible to high attrition rates or will be limited by nature once their abnormalities overstep the threshold limit which is close enough even at present rates.

However, luckily, the unaffiliated among the Jews is higher than the orthodoxy in terms of population numbers till date and those marrying non-Jews and opting out of the parochial system is also high and so both of these phenomena have been outweighing the rise in orthodoxy till now.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73729 May 23, 2014
typo

who tend TO reproduce in larger numbers

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#73730 May 23, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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I feel that unbiased scientific studies can establish the link between circumcision and destabilization of the nerve-brain system that brings in many marked ill-effects in the body and mind of the circumcised persons.
You "feel" that studies can establish a link? Not very scientific.

And even if you tried to reformulate that pre-judgement into a proper hypothesis, your concepts are so potentially vague so as to be impoosible to operationalize.

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#73731 May 23, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Orthodox Judaism is booming on account of lack of intelligence on the part of its subscribers who tend or reproduce in larger numbers and with their demographic increase will arise more mentally ill, more suicidal, more genetically inbred and more homosexually inclined people who harbor hatred, fanaticism and ill-will towards all except their own kind.
opinion
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>Orthodox types usually have very low IQs and certain reports testify to this claim and they also show a very high incidence of all the typical Jewish abnormalities as listed above..
Cough up your scientific sources
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>So, in the longer run, the orthodox will become susceptible to high attrition rates or will be limited by nature once their abnormalities overstep the threshold limit which is close enough even at present rates.
However, luckily, the unaffiliated among the Jews is higher than the orthodoxy in terms of population numbers till date and those marrying non-Jews and opting out of the parochial system is also high and so both of these phenomena have been outweighing the rise in orthodoxy till now.
opinion

On the other hand - my assertion was based on actual data

http://forward.com/articles/187429/orthodox-p...

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#73732 May 23, 2014
I think I FINALLY found a home for Hughbe in the United States

North Dakota Is Now the Only State with Unchallenged Gay Marriage Ban

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/0...

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73733 May 23, 2014
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You "feel" that studies can establish a link? Not very scientific.
I am certain about it.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73734 May 23, 2014
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opinion

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Cough up your scientific sources
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opinion
On the other hand - my assertion was based on actual data
LMAO

Why do you think the Jews have an abnormally high incidence of nerve diseases, mental disorders, homosexuality and suicide rate among other abnormalities?

There are many scientific studies indicating the same.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73735 May 23, 2014
I am going out.

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#73736 May 23, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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I am certain about it.
I am certain that my puppy transmits divine wisdom in her yapping, too....

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#73737 May 23, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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LMAO
Why do you think the Jews have an abnormally high incidence of nerve diseases, mental disorders, homosexuality and suicide rate among other abnormalities?
There are many scientific studies indicating the same.
Cough up your studies

On the internet anyone can allege anything. I feel certain everyone in Mumbai wears polka dot underwear.

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#73738 May 23, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
HIGH DEGREE OF ABNORMALITIES AMONG JEWS
Already, the incidence of insanity, numerous nerve diseases, suicide rate and homosexuality is very high in the Jewish community and so I want an unbiased and an in-depth medical study to investigate the degree of damage contributed by circumcision to the above-named long list of Jewish abnormalities.
You may want to help the scientific world by letting the scientists verify the degree of damage circumsion has done to you.

After all, you claimed to be of Jewish origin and to have been circumcised.

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